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Post by Derek‽ on May 16, 2008 16:47:35 GMT -8
Personally, I'm not a very strong believer in the afterlife, and don't really believe any of what the bible says regarding it, so I can't say what the worst part of hell would be, as one would need to experience it first. Everyone knows the devil listens to music ("I'm the Devil, I love metal! Check this riff it's rather tasty!" ... edited >_>), but what if he listened to really bad metal, and that's all he every played o.o Like, an eternity of My Chemical Romance  Since when is MCR metal?  |
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Post by almighty89 on May 16, 2008 17:07:09 GMT -8
Mine would be the realisation that everything I've ever thought was ludicrous turning out to be true and biting me Haha, win. Everyone knows the devil listens to music ("I'm the Devil, I love metal! Check this riff it's rather tasty!" ... edited >_>), but what if he listened to really bad metal, and that's all he every played o.o Like, an eternity of My Chemical Romance Good one. Cause you're kidding, right? ...right? |
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Post by EelKat on May 16, 2008 19:02:55 GMT -8
I put dunno, cause I have no idea what it would be like or even if there is such a place.... I've heard of a dozen or more different interpretations on what hell is or isn't, and no one really knows anything for certain anyways, I mean, how many people went to hell and came back to tell the tale? If real demons were anything like fantasy demons (namely Lord Sesshomaru  ;D  ) though, I'd love Hell! LOL!  ;D Personally, I'm not a very strong believer in the afterlife, and don't really believe any of what the bible says regarding it, so I can't say what the worst part of hell would be, as one would need to experience it first. Wither or not there are heaven and hell is debatable, (has anyone started a Monkey Brain for that yet?) however, I do believe there is an afterlife of some sort. I do not unnecessarily believe in either heaven or hell. I do not think life after death is all very much different from life here and I believe we well be reunited or even reborn again into the same family circles in the next life as this one and that we have already done so in past lives as well. Possibly on a different note here, but I also believe that the animals who guided us on our journey through this life have been our guides in past lives and shall continue to be our guides in the next life. I believe that animals are much more innocent and spiritual than humans, which is why they can not and do not commit sin, and because of this I also believe that the same animals can continue to return to us in this life in many forms to help us on our path to the next life. If there was a hell, I think it would be a place where we are separated from those we love: our friends, our families, and our pets. |
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Post by daniel on May 16, 2008 20:11:29 GMT -8
I don't believe that a literal hell can coexist with a truly omnipotent God. Hell, in simple terms= forever suffering or forever separated from God. Either way, or whatever other way, you slice it you get a punishment that is infinite for crimes in a finite human lifetime. Imagine you're eight years old and you stay up past your bedtime or don't do your homework or whatever. Now imagine that your parents sentence you to ten to twenty years of suffering for it. That's not even an infinite punishment, but it helps illustrate the point. Any after life punishment, if you happen to believe in a vindictive God, should be measured against wrongs committed in this life. It is a complete failure of logic and justice for finite crimes, though sometimes atrocious and abominable, to be punished infinitely. If I can see that as irrational then hopefully any omnipotent entity could as well. In the odd event that we have a "god" that is sadistic enough to send anything to a hell like state, I'm not sure we should be rushing to worship it. If we're going to be suffering for eternity anyway, then it won't make a difference. My own beliefs in God don't necessitate suffering or hell as a part of the afterlife. So, yeah, I don't believe in any worst part of hell. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on May 16, 2008 20:19:08 GMT -8
I don't believe that a literal hell can coexist with a truly omnipotent God. Hell, in simple terms= forever suffering or forever separated from God. Either way, or whatever other way, you slice it you get a punishment that is infinite for crimes in a finite human lifetime. Imagine you're eight years old and you stay up past your bedtime or don't do your homework or whatever. Now imagine that your parents sentence you to ten to twenty years of suffering for it. That's not even an infinite punishment, but it helps illustrate the point. Any after life punishment, if you happen to believe in a vindictive God, should be measured against wrongs committed in this life. It is a complete failure of logic and justice for finite crimes, though sometimes atrocious and abominable, to be punished infinitely. If I can see that as irrational then hopefully any omnipotent entity could as well. In the odd event that we have a "god" that is sadistic enough to send anything to a hell like state, I'm not sure we should be rushing to worship it. If we're going to be suffering for eternity anyway, then it won't make a difference. My own beliefs in God don't necessitate suffering or hell as a part of the afterlife. So, yeah, I don't believe in any worst part of hell. I have heard some theories that say Hell is like a place for sin atonment. After so long of paying for your finite crimes (with some interest) and after truly regretting each of your sins, you are supposed to ascend to Heaven to be with God. I have not heard it often, but I like that idea too. ;D |
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Post by almighty89 on May 16, 2008 20:39:12 GMT -8
I don't believe that a literal hell can coexist with a truly omnipotent God. Hell, in simple terms= forever suffering or forever separated from God. Either way, or whatever other way, you slice it you get a punishment that is infinite for crimes in a finite human lifetime. Imagine you're eight years old and you stay up past your bedtime or don't do your homework or whatever. Now imagine that your parents sentence you to ten to twenty years of suffering for it. That's not even an infinite punishment, but it helps illustrate the point. Any after life punishment, if you happen to believe in a vindictive God, should be measured against wrongs committed in this life. It is a complete failure of logic and justice for finite crimes, though sometimes atrocious and abominable, to be punished infinitely. If I can see that as irrational then hopefully any omnipotent entity could as well. In the odd event that we have a "god" that is sadistic enough to send anything to a hell like state, I'm not sure we should be rushing to worship it. If we're going to be suffering for eternity anyway, then it won't make a difference. My own beliefs in God don't necessitate suffering or hell as a part of the afterlife. So, yeah, I don't believe in any worst part of hell. Well said, Daniel. I said something similar in my other post, but you said it better. The reason why someone goes to Hell is not clear, but some people even says that sex before marriage sends someone to Hell. Eternal torture for that? Doesn't it sound extreme? I'll never understand how a loving, and understanding God would send someone like that to Hell. ...then people wonder why I have doubts about God.  Edit: I agree with HoudiniDerek. It would make more sense if it wouldn't be eternal, AND no torture. Just some lonely place for some time. |
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Post by daniel on May 16, 2008 20:47:02 GMT -8
I don't believe that a literal hell can coexist with a truly omnipotent God. Hell, in simple terms= forever suffering or forever separated from God. Either way, or whatever other way, you slice it you get a punishment that is infinite for crimes in a finite human lifetime. Imagine you're eight years old and you stay up past your bedtime or don't do your homework or whatever. Now imagine that your parents sentence you to ten to twenty years of suffering for it. That's not even an infinite punishment, but it helps illustrate the point. Any after life punishment, if you happen to believe in a vindictive God, should be measured against wrongs committed in this life. It is a complete failure of logic and justice for finite crimes, though sometimes atrocious and abominable, to be punished infinitely. If I can see that as irrational then hopefully any omnipotent entity could as well. In the odd event that we have a "god" that is sadistic enough to send anything to a hell like state, I'm not sure we should be rushing to worship it. If we're going to be suffering for eternity anyway, then it won't make a difference. My own beliefs in God don't necessitate suffering or hell as a part of the afterlife. So, yeah, I don't believe in any worst part of hell. I have heard some theories that say Hell is like a place for sin atonment. After so long of paying for your finite crimes (with some interest) and after truly regretting each of your sins, you are supposed to ascend to Heaven to be with God. I have not heard it often, but I like that idea too. ;D In general, what you've described is called Purgatory. In some dogmas, it is a place between heaven and hell where souls who didn't commit "mortal" sins would go to be purified before admittance to heaven. Hell is a separate thing in those systems and a place of no escape once you're there. |
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Post by Foozlebootz on May 16, 2008 20:54:10 GMT -8
I put 'I dunno'.
Hell for me would be sitting at bar in a cheap hotel circa. 1985. There would be an entertainer with one of those multi-instument things and a programmed electric organ. The man would be singing 'Send in the Clowns', over and over again. I hate clowns - they're scary. The bartender would keep topping up my glass with watered down cheap scotch, not fit for stripping floors. Next to me would be a guy with his shirt mostly unbuttoned. Numberous gold chains would be tangled in his 'missing link' mass of chest hair. This creep would be attempting to chat me up, "hey baby, what's your sign'. And the worst part would be the pointy spike heels squeezing my feet.
Based on the above, I try to lead a very good life.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on May 16, 2008 20:58:32 GMT -8
I have heard some theories that say Hell is like a place for sin atonment. After so long of paying for your finite crimes (with some interest) and after truly regretting each of your sins, you are supposed to ascend to Heaven to be with God. I have not heard it often, but I like that idea too. ;D In general, what you've described is called Purgatory. In some dogmas, it is a place between heaven and hell where souls who didn't commit "mortal" sins would go to be purified before admittance to heaven. Hell is a separate thing in those systems and a place of no escape once you're there. In some, yes. I have heard other theories in different churches that have Purgatory as a separate level though and that Hell is to atone for the sins. |
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Post by pawl on May 17, 2008 6:46:54 GMT -8
Personally, I'm not a very strong believer in the afterlife, and don't really believe any of what the bible says regarding it, so I can't say what the worst part of hell would be, as one would need to experience it first. Everyone knows the devil listens to music ("I'm the Devil, I love metal! Check this riff it's rather tasty!" ... edited >_>), but what if he listened to really bad metal, and that's all he every played o.o Like, an eternity of My Chemical Romance Since when is MCR metal? I've heard enough people try and call it that, so when it suits me so can I =P |
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Post by Captain Janeway on May 17, 2008 6:51:23 GMT -8
I honestly don't care what It's like in hell. It might be me facing my worst fears and screaming to the top of my lungs over and over again. To bad theres nothing I can do to stop myself from going to hell since I'm gay.
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Post by Zetacon on May 17, 2008 7:34:51 GMT -8
I'm atheist, so I really wouldn't know.
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Post by 3000 on May 17, 2008 8:55:58 GMT -8
I kinda think being on fire for an eternity would kinda suck...
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Post by Will on May 17, 2008 8:57:30 GMT -8
As my Sunday school teacher said one day, "I like a glass of ice water. You wont get no ice water in hell!". Of course, he wasnt qualified at all to be aSunday school teacher |
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Post by almighty89 on May 17, 2008 9:12:24 GMT -8
I honestly don't care what It's like in hell. It might be me facing my worst fears and screaming to the top of my lungs over and over again. To bad theres nothing I can do to stop myself from going to hell since I'm gay. If God exist and he made you that way, I don't see why you'd go to Hell. |
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Everyone knows the devil listens to music ("I'm the Devil, I love metal! Check this riff it's rather tasty!" ... edited >_>), but what if he listened to really bad metal, and that's all he every played o.o Like, an eternity of My Chemical Romance 
;D 
) though, I'd love Hell! LOL! 
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