Obesity rate higher than previously thought

[kasooi]

Kind of an interesting article:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-17585734

They used bodyfat %'s to better predict obesity since BMI's don't take into account body-types that well.
They used that data to suggest better numbers for the BMI rating for obesity though and it ends up being lower than previously thought.

That's a heck of a lot of obese people


Coincidentally I was reading:
Pyrolysis of triglyceride materials for the production
of renewable fuels and chemicals by K.D. Maher, D.C. Bressler
and this news of obesity could be good news for a smart entrepreneur
1. Liposuction
2. ???
3. PROFIT

[Tylr]

Apr 3, 2012 5:58:00 GMT -8 kasooi said:

1. Liposuction
2. ???
3. PROFIT

I think the ??? is "make people pay for step one."

But seriously, liposuction is not the answer.

[kasooi]

Apr 3, 2012 7:49:04 GMT -8 Tylr said:

Apr 3, 2012 5:58:00 GMT -8 kasooi said:

1. Liposuction
2. ???
3. PROFIT

I think the ??? is "make people pay for step one."

But seriously, liposuction is not the answer.

That's my answer for the oil crisis.
I'd be down for liposuction if it leads to cheap gas.

They said 99 million woman are obese, I'd imagine if you factored in men as well it would be like 170-200 million.

So we get 100,000,000 people to get liposuction, then get the other 100,000,000 to run on an elliptical hooked up to a power generator which powers a cracking furnace.

Pyrolize the adipose tissue from that 100mil people then OIL CRISIS SOLVED ;D

[Tylr]

I don't think that...

...nevermind.

[kasooi]

Apr 3, 2012 8:15:17 GMT -8 Tylr said:

I don't think that...

...nevermind.

It would work, it would just be difficult getting 200 million people together and having them quit their lives to go slave away all day producing oil
(Could pay em for doing all the work too, not necessarily slave work lol)

It's a renewable resource too!

Seriously, this is a genius idea, large unemployment rate, large obesity %, its an untapped goldmine.

[B L I Z Z]

I really hate the BMI scale. I'm considered overweight just because most of my body is muscle and I'm not that tall.

[kasooi]

Apr 3, 2012 19:15:25 GMT -8 B L I Z Z said:

I really hate the BMI scale. I'm considered overweight just because most of my body is muscle and I'm not that tall.

The bmi scale is based off height so I don't see how being tall affects it

But the study only used the bmi to get a larger sampling of the population, to do bodyfat % you have to do either those measurings where they use calipers to measure your biceps, glutes, thighs, etc. then they can manually determine it or they do those water submersion tests.

So they sample the bf %, found the bmi for obesity rated lower for the sample they took, then applied it to all of the US and got the 64% obesity.

I've always just gone off how well you can see your adonis belt for judging my bodyfat %.
6-12% is well defined, 12-19% is only slightly visible to flat abdomen, >19% is bulging.
It works well for men anyways because our fat goes straight to the abdomen and where the adonis belt is.

[snap2000]

Apr 3, 2012 20:57:28 GMT -8 kasooi said:

The bmi scale is based off height so I don't see how being tall affects it

[...]

You might want to read that back a couple times.

[The Dark Knight]

Apr 3, 2012 21:02:08 GMT -8 snap2000 said:

Apr 3, 2012 20:57:28 GMT -8 kasooi said:

The bmi scale is based off height so I don't see how being tall affects it

[...]

You might want to read that back a couple times.

Unfreeze yourself first, penguin.

[kasooi]

Apr 3, 2012 21:02:08 GMT -8 snap2000 said:

Apr 3, 2012 20:57:28 GMT -8 kasooi said:

The bmi scale is based off height so I don't see how being tall affects it

[...]

You might want to read that back a couple times.

Well it is, your bmi is based on height and weight, those are the only 2 variables on the chart after all
The taller you are the higher your bmi is and the higher the over/underweight cutoffs are.

[edit]oh wait nevermind I see what you mean, just bad sentence structure there derp
I know being tall affects it, but I meant tall in relation to the cutoffs not the bmi number

[snap2000]

Apr 4, 2012 5:45:59 GMT -8 kasooi said:

Apr 3, 2012 21:02:08 GMT -8 snap2000 said:

You might want to read that back a couple times.

Well it is, your bmi is based on height and weight, those are the only 2 variables on the chart after all
The taller you are the higher your bmi is and the higher the over/underweight cutoffs are.

[edit]oh wait nevermind I see what you mean, just bad sentence structure there derp
I know being tall affects it, but I meant tall in relation to the cutoffs not the bmi number

Now I'm confused about the cutoffs part.

But essentially Blizz's problem is that he is supposed to be a certain weight for his height (according to whom?), but is considered overweight by the BMI scale because he has built up a lot of muscle mass. On the other hand, I'm really tall and have a normal figure, but I was told I was slightly underweight based on BMI.

If I remember correctly, the BMI scale was never meant to measure health of any kind. It was manipulated into use by drug companies to get people on diet pills and stuff.

[kasooi]

Apr 4, 2012 6:58:03 GMT -8 snap2000 said:

Apr 4, 2012 5:45:59 GMT -8 kasooi said:

Well it is, your bmi is based on height and weight, those are the only 2 variables on the chart after all
The taller you are the higher your bmi is and the higher the over/underweight cutoffs are.

[edit]oh wait nevermind I see what you mean, just bad sentence structure there derp
I know being tall affects it, but I meant tall in relation to the cutoffs not the bmi number

Now I'm confused about the cutoffs part.

But essentially Blizz's problem is that he is supposed to be a certain weight for his height (according to whom?), but is considered overweight by the BMI scale because he has built up a lot of muscle mass. On the other hand, I'm really tall and have a normal figure, but I was told I was slightly underweight based on BMI.

If I remember correctly, the BMI scale was never meant to measure health of any kind. It was manipulated into use by drug companies to get people on diet pills and stuff.

I think in the traditional bmi chart they don't change the cutoffs based on body type but if you look up some better charts they add on body-type modifcations to your bmi number.
The cutoffs for underweight/overweight are also different for each gender and some people give better numbers for taller people as well.

You just gotta find a study that has the statistics of people in your height range to get the appropriate numbers, if you look up the WHO's numbers or things like that its just averages over all height and bodytypes.

That's just my understanding of it anyway since a lot of websites list different points of being over/underweight based on gender, height, age, and bodytype.
I've never really used the bmi that much though

[Former Member]

You only get 100 years (give or take), skinny or fat, 60 or 100... it all ends the same way. While most people need to lose some weight (me included), there are more important things really.

[kasooi]

Apr 4, 2012 9:16:38 GMT -8 @brandonknox said:

You only get 100 years (give or take), skinny or fat, 60 or 100... it all ends the same way. While most people need to lose some weight (me included), there are more important things really.

Well with that mentality you'll never lose weight

But really I think the more important issue is the huge increase in obesity over the years is what concerns and interests people.

It correlates a lot with other areas of research so knowing why now obese people are the majority is pretty important.

[Tsoa]

This isn't very surprising at all. But what I can't stand is when these obese girls think that they're so sexy, and wear really tight short shorts, or even mini skirts! *shudders*
'Tis a very horrific experience.