On click of pagination things:

[Former Member]

So, can I have that once you click either the next/prev button on the pagination or one of the numbers, the page will reload. Can this be done? Peter Todge Chris

[elli]

Why do you want the entire page to reload? Pagination is an AJAX request, which is more efficient.

If we understand why you want to reload the page, we might be able to help you better.

[Former Member]

Jul 22, 2019 9:22:51 GMT -8 elli said:

Why do you want the entire page to reload? Pagination is an AJAX request, which is more efficient.

If we understand why you want to reload the page, we might be able to help you better.

there are some styling issues in both members and threads lists which happen when you change the pagination page, however once you reload it the styling comes back. This seems like the easiest way to fix the issue, and we also don't really mind having it that way.

[elli]

Can you provide an example of the styling issues vs. what you're expecting to see?

[Former Member]

Jul 22, 2019 9:47:30 GMT -8 elli said:

Can you provide an example of the styling issues vs. what you're expecting to see?

vs.
once I refresh the page it goes back to good... I reported this already along with the threads list issue which is the same as this, but we can't solve the problem/we don't know how to... An auto refresh would make it fixed though I believe

[elli]

I've created an account to see it happen live. Which theme is this? You have quite a few.

[Former Member]

Jul 22, 2019 11:00:39 GMT -8 elli said:

I've created an account to see it happen live. Which theme is this? You have quite a few.

It's group exclusive, LMB Theme.

[elli]

@smithj All right, would you mind giving me access to it? Username is ebbymac

[Chris]

Just a heads up @smithj, it would be against coding guidelines for a script to automatically reload the page and add stress to Proboards' bandwidth and servers (2 loads for each pagination click). Even if you intercept and abort the XHR then issue a page reload it is still requesting more than the XHR would have requested.
Fix the root problem which is most likely an improperly coded theme or a script that does not know how to handle pagination. If you require help with fixing that theme then it is probably wise to temporarily remove restrictions you have on that theme so it can be properly diagnosed. If you put in the effort to clear the runway you will get a lot more planes willing to land at your airport.

[Former Member]

Jul 22, 2019 12:25:28 GMT -8 Chris said:

Just a heads up @smithj , it would be against coding guidelines for a script to automatically reload the page and add stress to Proboards' bandwidth and servers (2 loads for each pagination click). Even if you intercept and abort the XHR then issue a page reload it is still requesting more than the XHR would have requested.
Fix the root problem which is most likely an improperly coded theme or a script that does not know how to handle pagination. If you require help with fixing that theme then it is probably wise to temporarily remove restrictions you have on that theme so it can be properly diagnosed. If you put in the effort to clear the runway you will get a lot more planes willing to land at your airport.

I wasn't aware that the refreshing part was against the guidelines, but I cannot make the theme public as all the members will see it and they cannot as it isn't ready yet. In addition, moving it to a test site would be difficult for other reasons.

[Chris]

Jul 22, 2019 12:56:40 GMT -8 @smithj said:

I wasn't aware that the refreshing part was against the guidelines, but I cannot make the theme public as all the members will see it and they cannot as it isn't ready yet. In addition, moving it to a test site would be difficult for other reasons.

What difficulty would you envision exporting the theme then importing it to a test forum?

To be fair that just looks like a reluctance on your part to put any effort into getting the issue resolved and instead expecting somebody who is volunteering to help you (out of the kindness of their heart btw) to jump through hoops rather than meet them halfway and clearing the path. I know Kami already attempted to help and now Elli...

Perhaps I am way off base here and you have a valid reason (if so then say it) but I personally see something like that and I swipe left and move on. This time I said something because I see two very capable people going that extra mile for you and hitting a brick wall.

[Former Member]

Jul 22, 2019 13:52:11 GMT -8 Chris said:

Jul 22, 2019 12:56:40 GMT -8 @smithj said:

I wasn't aware that the refreshing part was against the guidelines, but I cannot make the theme public as all the members will see it and they cannot as it isn't ready yet. In addition, moving it to a test site would be difficult for other reasons.

What difficulty would you envision exporting the theme then importing it to a test forum?

To be fair that just looks like a reluctance on your part to put any effort into getting the issue resolved and instead expecting somebody who is volunteering to help you (out of the kindness of their heart btw) to jump through hoops rather than meet them halfway and clearing the path. I know Kami already attempted to help and now Elli...

Perhaps I am way off base here and you have a valid reason (if so then say it) but I personally see something like that and I swipe left and move on. This time I said something because I see two very capable people going that extra mile for you and hitting a brick wall.

So, I mean, me and the other designers tried a lot to get this problem solved and we have been unsuccessful so far. So, I wouldn't call our attempts effortless, or even just my attempts, because I assure you, our first reaction wasn't to go try to get help from support. We tried to solve the issue, even with a guide from a PB Admin on how to solve the issue, and it hasn't gone so well... I appreciate people helping from the goodness of their hearts. I am not expecting anyone to do the complete job, or even the majority. As for Elli and Kami, thank you for helping, I appreciate it (though I'm not sure Kami got my mentions last thread, cuz she hasn't gotten back to me). Originally I just wanted help with making it auto refresh as that would be both accurate to what we are aiming for, and it would solve the issue which the staff have tried and failed to solve, but unfortunately that's not allowed... Anyway, I think I've gotten enough help, and I'll be on my way now. I'll just solve it on my own which I probably should've done from the start.

As for my reason for not moving everything to a test forum:

This theme is filled with many <a> tags which have in their href attribute links to this site legomessage.boards.net. When importing the theme we would have to replace every instance of links to the current forum, and replace it with the links for the test site.

For example, there is an a tag linking to legomessage.boards.net/bookmarks, and when imported to a test site it will have to be changed. This isn't impossible, but it would take some time, or else most times you click would keep directing you to the wrong site, and this would be frusturating imo.

In addition, we have multiple plugins which affect the design and functionality of some of the theme, so that would have to be brought over too. So, I know importing the theme isn't impossible, nor that hard. It would just take more time. Call me lazy if you want, but honestly, it's fine. I'll just figure it out myself.

[Chris]

That is usually when one seeks help, after all options have been exhausted. A new set of eyes will often spot the trees that were missed because everyone was focusing on the forest.

This is a presentation problem as you've described not a functional one so worrying about functional operation is irrelevant if we're diagnosing a presentational glitch.

Jul 12, 2019 2:23:48 GMT -8 Peter said:

Unfortunately you need to put in some effort...

[Peter]

Jul 22, 2019 14:52:14 GMT -8 @smithj said:

Call me lazy if you want, but honestly, it's fine. I'll just figure it out myself.

Come on, you need to see it from our point of view. We have to put way too much effort in with little from your side.

- Got to fish information out of you from the start.
- Got to register an account.
- Got to try and work out which theme it is.
- Got to post back here asking which theme is the problem.
- Got to wait to be put into a special group.
- Got to wait for you to tell us we are in the group so we can view the theme.
... list could then go on and on (is it a specific browser? is it a conflict with a plugin? etc etc)

You got a reply from Eli. Someone who would have more than likely helped you find a solution to your theme issue, but they had to fish for information and jump through hoops to try and get there. They went out of their way to register, look through the theme list, come back and reply, and wait for you to put them into the special group, but you didn't even acknowledge that.

A link to your other thread about the same issue: Kami trying to help you.

A lot of effort for Kami and you got no where with it because of it.

We want to help you, otherwise you wouldn't get any response or advice. But effort needs to be done your side.

I would recommend moving your development to a dev forum, it will make your life a lot easier down the road. It may well be quite a bit of effort to replicate it all but it will be worth it. Once it's setup, it's done. You make changes there, if you like them, you replicate (or export the theme) it on your live forum. This way we can help you easier and quicker.

Make it so.

[Former Member]

Jul 23, 2019 2:22:30 GMT -8 Peter said:

Jul 22, 2019 14:52:14 GMT -8 @smithj said:

Call me lazy if you want, but honestly, it's fine. I'll just figure it out myself.

Come on, you need to see it from our point of view. We have to put way too much effort in with little from your side.

- Got to fish information out of you from the start.
- Got to register an account.
- Got to try and work out which theme it is.
- Got to post back here asking which theme is the problem.
- Got to wait to be put into a special group.
- Got to wait for you to tell us we are in the group so we can view the theme.
... list could then go on and on (is it a specific browser? is it a conflict with a plugin? etc etc)

You got a reply from Eli. Someone who would have more than likely helped you find a solution to your theme issue, but they had to fish for information and jump through hoops to try and get there. They went out of their way to register, look through the theme list, come back and reply, and wait for you to put them into the special group, but you didn't even acknowledge that.

A link to your other thread about the same issue: Kami trying to help you.

A lot of effort for Kami and you got no where with it because of it.

We want to help you, otherwise you wouldn't get any response or advice. But effort needs to be done your side.

I would recommend moving your development to a dev forum, it will make your life a lot easier down the road. It may well be quite a bit of effort to replicate it all but it will be worth it. Once it's setup, it's done. You make changes there, if you like them, you replicate (or export the theme) it on your live forum. This way we can help you easier and quicker.

Make it so.

Alright.