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Post by CrazyBoy on Sept 11, 2019 3:43:12 GMT -8
what's wrong Kitty Katt ? means not important for a g-mod to be a coder ?
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Post by elhombre on Sept 11, 2019 3:59:30 GMT -8
Just reading through this,will make 2 points.
A moderator is just someone who deals with disputes,if your forum is run as you want to,their role is minimal and they just step in when required. To say they have to have experience makes it sound like a paid position which it clearly isn't,you just need someone with time and patience,not a school headmaster.
Global moderator who can write code and plug-ins?Honestly you need a reality check.
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Post by Kitty Katt on Sept 11, 2019 4:01:14 GMT -8
I have been a Moderator for seven years, six years as Head Moderator (basically equivalent to a Global Moderator here), for the Support Forum for a website host - and not once have I ever been required to create code of any kind. My job is to moderate the forum, not write code.
If you are looking to have coders / plugin makers on your forum, perhaps you should designate a member group for that, as that would logically make more sense. One analogy I have used is this: Think of your Moderators (and Global Moderators) as your "Forum Police". The job name itself typically implies that they will be moderating the forum: checking to make sure posts are in the correct board, removing violating threads / posts, insuring that flaming does not develop in a thread, etc. The term "moderator" itself does not imply that one has to have coding skills.
Nothing about coding requirements in the definition. However, as stated above, you are free to have any requirements of your Moderators / Global Moderators that you want. I would suggest, though, that if you alter from the normal definition, that you explicitly define what their tasks/duties are. I, personally, would not want to be a Moderator where I find out afterwards that there are hidden duties involved.
Please keep in mind that this post, in its entirety, is merely my opinion.
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Post by CrazyBoy on Sept 11, 2019 4:06:12 GMT -8
thank you elhombre and Kitty Kattwill create a new group for coders global mod is working some on the admin area,mod is as you said kitty
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Post by Kitty Katt on Sept 11, 2019 4:10:29 GMT -8
A moderator is just someone who deals with disputes,if your forum is run as you want to,their role is minimal and they just step in when required. To say they have to have experience makes it sound like a paid position which it clearly isn't,you just need someone with time and patience,not a school headmaster. Desiring someone who already has moderating experience is not unheard of, nor is it unreasonable. To me, it does not imply that it is a paid position. To me, it does imply that the Admin wants someone who has already been a Moderator, as they would already have the basic skills (at minimum) to know what to look for. I have seen too many times of someone who has said they were a Moderator, yet knew very little of what was expected of them. Was that their fault? Not necessarily, as I would put the fault to both the Moderator and Admin. The Admin for (possibly) not clearly defining the duties, and the Moderator for (possibly) not asking what their duties were. Global moderator who can write code and plug-ins?Honestly you need a reality check. Again, as stated above, they are free to have whatever requirements they want. However, the drawback is that they are actually limiting themselves to who can be their Global Moderator.
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Post by Kitty Katt on Sept 11, 2019 4:22:19 GMT -8
thank you elhombre and Kitty Kattwill create a new group for coders global mod is working some on the admin area,mod is as you said kitty This is merely a system I use - you are free to use it, or use a system of your own. Moderator: (Global = No) - Powers: --- Make Announcement: No --- Sticky: No --- Lock: Yes --- Move: Yes --- Delete: No --- Bump and Fall: No --- Edit: Yes --- View Poll Voters: No Head (Global) Moderator: (Global = Yes) - Powers: --- Make Announcement: No --- Sticky: Yes --- Lock: Yes --- Move: Yes --- Delete: No --- Bump and Fall: Yes --- Edit: Yes --- View Poll Voters: No (there are other additional powers as well) My Moderator group is on a per board basis. They will get added to boards that they are allowed to moderate. The Head (Global) Moderator, of course, has their powers forum-wide (to all areas they can access). Again, this is merely a system I use. You are encouraged to use a system that works for YOU.
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Post by CrazyBoy on Sept 11, 2019 4:26:19 GMT -8
thank you elhombre and Kitty Katt will create a new group for coders global mod is working some on the admin area,mod is as you said kitty This is merely a system I use - you are free to use it, or use a system of your own. Moderator: (Global = No) - Powers: --- Make Announcement: No --- Sticky: No --- Lock: Yes --- Move: Yes --- Delete: No --- Bump and Fall: No --- Edit: Yes --- View Poll Voters: No Head (Global) Moderator: (Global = Yes) - Powers: --- Make Announcement: No --- Sticky: Yes --- Lock: Yes --- Move: Yes --- Delete: No --- Bump and Fall: Yes --- Edit: Yes --- View Poll Voters: No (there are other additional powers as well) My Moderator group is on a per board basis. They will get added to boards that they are allowed to moderate. The Head (Global) Moderator, of course, has their powers forum-wide (to all areas they can access). Again, this is merely a system I use. You are encouraged to use a system that works for YOU. I'll follow yours and add some powers to the g mod thank you! I colored now thr rules in some parts,and i'll add coder/designer rules
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Post by Kitty Katt on Sept 11, 2019 4:36:15 GMT -8
I'll follow yours and add some powers to the g mod thank you! I colored now thr rules in some parts,and i'll add coder/designer rules If I may suggest. When you have the powers set for each group, be sure you let each group know what their powers are and what their duties are. This is best done in a board, in my opinion, that only the Admin, Head (Global) Moderators and Moderators can access. Perhaps a stickied thread for Moderators that lets them know what their powers are and what their duties are. In a separate thread, the same thing for your Global Moderators, but with their specific powers and duties. I do not post that information in a public access area, as guests and regular members do not need to know what they are. You may also want to add that their duties are in addition to following the Forum Rules. Again, this is just my opinion.
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Post by CrazyBoy on Sept 11, 2019 4:39:56 GMT -8
Kitty Katt i liked your opinion i want to know first,add their duties on the forum rules? or add them to a custom page that te (mods and g-mods) can access it ? thank you very mch
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Post by Kitty Katt on Sept 11, 2019 4:57:23 GMT -8
Kitty Katt i liked your opinion i want to know first,add their duties on the forum rules? or add them to a custom page that te (mods and g-mods) can access it ? thank you very mch I cannot state it enough, but this post is simply my opinion. I have a board, in my Administration category, called Moderator Discussions. It is in that board that I would post the powers and duties, not in the Forum Rules. After all, the Forum Rules apply to everyone, but the duties of Moderators does not apply to everyone - so the Forum Rules would be a bad place to put those duty lists. A custom page is not needed. A simple addition of a board that is set so only the Admin, Global Moderators and Moderators can access will suffice: The Moderator Discussions board is for my Moderators to use - both the Head Moderator and Moderators. All of the permissions for that board are set the same as the Who can view in the image below:
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Post by Kami on Sept 11, 2019 9:34:06 GMT -8
There is a lot going on in this thread, and as a non-native English speaker it's very frustrating to me. Several of you could stand to be a bit more understanding and kind, considering that Ismail is trying his best to understand a language that shares very few similarities with his own -- Arabic doesn't use Roman letters (writing in Arabic words using Roman letters doesn't even have enough letters to encompass the sounds they make -- numbers and punctuation are used to represent sounds too, like خ being represented as kh 7' 5), has an entirely different sentence structure, and is read from right to left. I understand that it's not always easy to communicate with someone who doesn't speak English fluently in an English-dominated space, but please don't let your frustration turn into derision and derogatory remarks. If you don't want to help anymore, just mute the thread and stop posting, there's no reason to continue going on and on. Anyway, CrazyBoy, here are my thoughts on your forum: 1. If you want people to know about your forum and share affiliates, your affiliate board should be open to guests. 2. The design of your default theme can be improved. I think you will improve on your design as you learn more about ProBoards, but if you're interested in learning more about design you can post in the Design board here on Support to get some help. 3. Your forum is not dead or failed. 15 members in two months is good, especially since you are not advertising a lot. Remember that there are a lot of websites on the internet. Your forum has a unique name but a general topic, so it will take a long time for people to find it unless you advertise a LOT. 4. I think you should write your rules in your own words. It is nice to use other people's words when you are still learning English, but it will help you learn English better if you try and say the same thing but in your own way. 5. I think you have too many staff members right now. You have 15 members, and half of them are staff. Most forums of this size only have one staff member (the admin), but since you are inexperienced and need help, I think 2 staff members + you should be enough. Start with a small team, then add more staff as your forum grows. 6. I think your expectation of having a global moderator who can code and program is too high. It is OK if this is what you want, but it will be difficult to find because coding for a general forum does not usually present the same opportunities to write interesting codes like a coding forum or roleplaying forum would. If you still want one, that is OK, but most coders would rather join forums where they can do complicated coding. 7. Be more aware of how you speak. I know you don't mean to be rude, but in English -- especially on the internet, where we cannot hear how you are saying something -- using a lot of ! and smiley faces can be mistaken for being sarcastic or aggressive. 8. This one is about your rules: "You should have experience with web-design" -- Web design and coding are not the same. Web designers do not learn programming, and only some know HTML and CSS. If you want someone to write plugins for you, then you should say instead "You must be fluent in HTML, CSS, and Javascript" OR "You should have experience with web development". Also, there is no hyphen in "web design". Overall I think you are on the right path to a successful forum. Make sure to learn how to balance your content: create interesting topics, but don't make so many that people feel like they can't create their own / there's too many new things to read every day. Keep practicing your English, if you want to have an English-speaking forum. And remember: only you can decide what is best for your forum. Suggestions are just suggestions based on what other people would like to see. If you want something for your community, or if you don't think a suggestion fits how you want your forum to work, it is OK.
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Post by Todge on Sept 11, 2019 9:40:47 GMT -8
ok Lynx thank's but global mod isn't as mod,so this why i did that. i requested a plugin but peter said he don't want to write it.and todge saw it and he didn't say anything,so i need who write plugins May I ask what plugin request I saw but didn't reply?
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Post by CrazyBoy on Sept 11, 2019 10:11:07 GMT -8
ok Lynx thank's but global mod isn't as mod,so this why i did that. i requested a plugin but peter said he don't want to write it.and todge saw it and he didn't say anything,so i need who write plugins May I ask what plugin request I saw but didn't reply? ok Todge this is what you want support.proboards.com/thread/658442/request-pluginyou liked peter's post and he posted the the thread which i posted my request and that's mean you saw the request! sorry todge will you make that?
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Post by CrazyBoy on Sept 11, 2019 10:21:09 GMT -8
thank you so much Kami i understood everything you want to say. but I want to tell you: I don't have many staff the new staff is only joined today thank you so much.
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Post by Kami on Sept 11, 2019 10:24:48 GMT -8
thank you so much Kami i understood everything you want to say. but I want to tell you: I don't have many staff the new staff is only joined today thank you so much. Is that the case? I was looking at your info centre. There is: - you (admin) - Gamer Nerd (gmod) - Martin (gmod) - shaf (gmod) - safeinsanity (gmod) - catsmother (mod) That's six listed staff members that I can see active within the last 24 hours. Regardless of when they joined, six staff members for eight regular members is too many. (:
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