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Post by Beckea on Sept 9, 2019 19:56:45 GMT -8
I have been doing a lot of reading on vaping and reading all what is happening around this country and it is scary. wildmaven , I am keeping your cousin's son in my prayers and I hope he does recover. Our school district has made pamphlets of the negative effects from vaping and are having monthly workshops on it. My husband is a coach and he also had two issues with athletes on his team so this is really serious. We had issues with our junior high school and they had an emergency workshop for parents. This is why I am researching this and well there is a lot of news articles on vaping and what is happening right now. Anyway, keeping my thoughts and prayers.
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Post by User 180565 is taking donation on Sept 9, 2019 22:33:43 GMT -8
I really wish people were more open minded and more understanding that our community doesnt want kids to vape at all. I really wish people would see the benefits of it other than smoking but they do not. People just dont plain listen. We as a community do take are products very seriously. We try to warn people about the harmful side effects that it comes with. We try to make people knowledge but yet the media constantly makes us look bad. Our products that we use are fully tested by people with knowledge. It isnt really our fault if people do not educate themselves on products. And it most definitely shouldnt make us look bad if you arent parenting your child and watch them better if they pick up a vape pen and have no idea what's inside. wildmaven I am not targeting this specifically at your situation I do wish your cousin a well recovery. But like I said it would be helpful to know exactly what he was using and what kind of liquid he was using. I'd like to share a few videos and images to show we are not ignoring saftey and or are ignorant towards saftey of others. As you can compare electronic cigarettes users as smokers that part I agree with. Most are friendly people that just want off cigarettes. Some of us turn it into a hobby and there is nothing wrong with that. People like to tinker, though if you ask us not to do it around you we most likely will not. This surgical warning had been labeled on if not everything due to fda regulations which we are trying to follow to heart. Similar to what's on a pack of cigarettes. Here is also a video of eliquid being processed through a clean lab. So hope that sheds some light to people that we arent goofing off with products. Vapers are not careless I guess I'm ranting like this because I'm trying to shed some light that we do care about others.
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Post by endo on Sept 10, 2019 13:10:28 GMT -8
No one said anyone that vapes are bad people, the point is there is no telling what people that vape are taking into their lungs. That warning label says that it contains nicotine, and maybe that's all the FDA requires it to say. So, what else is in there that manufacturers are claiming is harmless, yet people are still coming down with lung and respiratory problems? A video of the liquid being processed in a clean lab sheds no light at all on whether the contents cause disease, sickness or death. The bottom line is, manufacturers claim the ingredients are safe and do the bare minimum to meet FDA approval to release their products. And, they obviously are not safe, based on the number of people recently who have come down with lung problems and the ones that have died after vaping for lengths of time.
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Post by User 180565 is taking donation on Sept 10, 2019 15:28:29 GMT -8
No one said anyone that vapes are bad people, the point is there is no telling what people that vape are taking into their lungs. That warning label says that it contains nicotine, and maybe that's all the FDA requires it to say. So, what else is in there that manufacturers are claiming is harmless, yet people are still coming down with lung and respiratory problems? A video of the liquid being processed in a clean lab sheds no light at all on whether the contents cause disease, sickness or death. The bottom line is, manufacturers claim the ingredients are safe and do the bare minimum to meet FDA approval to release their products. And, they obviously are not safe, based on the number of people recently who have come down with lung problems and the ones that have died after vaping for lengths of time.
That's the point in trying to make. We're doing all we can to make products safe yet doctors are hardly researching them to tell us. Now people are randomly dying, without being informed of what they're inhaling to the public. How can we know if its harmful if not that many reputable labs are testing it? The point of the video was to show we are trying to make it safe but we dont know enough and now all of a sudden 100s of people are dying.
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Post by Inkjet on Sept 10, 2019 17:54:07 GMT -8
No one said anyone that vapes are bad people, the point is there is no telling what people that vape are taking into their lungs. That warning label says that it contains nicotine, and maybe that's all the FDA requires it to say. So, what else is in there that manufacturers are claiming is harmless, yet people are still coming down with lung and respiratory problems? A video of the liquid being processed in a clean lab sheds no light at all on whether the contents cause disease, sickness or death. The bottom line is, manufacturers claim the ingredients are safe and do the bare minimum to meet FDA approval to release their products. And, they obviously are not safe, based on the number of people recently who have come down with lung problems and the ones that have died after vaping for lengths of time.
That's the point in trying to make. We're doing all we can to make products safe yet doctors are hardly researching them to tell us. Now people are randomly dying, without being informed of what they're inhaling to the public. How can we know if its harmful if not that many reputable labs are testing it? The point of the video was to show we are trying to make it safe but we dont know enough and now all of a sudden 100s of people are dying. Ive been watching this back and forth exchange and it’s getting a little desperate for a valuable argument. On one hand you’re saying that the vaping industry is doing everything they can to make it safe, but then on the other hand you’re saying even the vaping community has no idea what the heck is in these fluids. So which is it? Is vaping safe or is it still an unknown territory and vapers should tread cautiously? And to say the medical community isn’t doing enough to research the harmful effects? ‘Cmon, the medical community has been after vaping since it became the in “thing” years ago. It’s literally still in its infancy. Think of it like Facebook - when it came out, it was awesome, amazing, whatever you’d like to call it. Now many years later, we’re starting to see the social/psychological effects on our lives. Vaping is much the same way - it’s way too early in its infancy to claim that vaping is “safe” when it appears your community has no idea what in the world it’s actually inhaling in the first place. These deaths and hospitalizations are the beginning of the studies into their long term effects in the community at large.
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Post by wildmaven on Sept 11, 2019 11:23:56 GMT -8
Just a quick report: He is home, but still in a lot of pain.
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Post by Nabeela on Sept 11, 2019 11:39:19 GMT -8
Just a quick report: He is home, but still in a lot of pain. Glad he is home and praying he has a good recovery.
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Post by Søren on Sept 11, 2019 11:51:08 GMT -8
Glad he is home, much easier place to rest so hope pain goes soon too
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Post by Shaliza on Sept 11, 2019 17:01:28 GMT -8
Just a quick report: He is home, but still in a lot of pain. So glad that he's back home. Hope he continues to make good progress each and every day.
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Post by Beckea on Sept 11, 2019 20:07:11 GMT -8
Just a quick report: He is home, but still in a lot of pain. That is great news. Did your cousin say how long the doctor said his recovery will take? If you don't mind me asking.
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Post by Shady on Sept 12, 2019 0:59:54 GMT -8
Glad to hear he’s okay. I’ve read news stories about this in the US this week, and it is a worry how vaping has become so mainstream. I know some who have used it as a transition to stop smoking/taking nicotine altogether, and some who have switched from smoking to vaping because “it’s better for them.” The problem is that we don’t know what the long term effects are yet. Soren is right in that in the UK it certainly is glamourised because there aren’t any laws against displaying them yet. Cigarettes can’t be displayed on shelves and are kept in closed cupboards, so no one can be attracted to fancy packaging and advertising. Vape stores (which are everywhere now) are all bright lights and sweet flavours and other things that make them more attractive to young people.
Apparently the the UK they are safer as there is more regulation on what is in them, but we still need to do something about how they are advertised and who they are targeting. I see no issue with them being prescribed as an aid to stop smoking, often used to wean off nicotine with reduced amounts over time, but I do see an issue with aiming fruit flavoured nicotine at kids.
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Post by Meryl on Sept 19, 2019 14:02:53 GMT -8
My cousin's son is in ICU from vaping with a collapsed lung. A chest tube had to be inserted. It's one thing to hear about cases on the news, but when it hits this close to home it's very frightening. What are we doing to our youth?! I share your concern. Do you know for certain that the vaping was the cause of his collapsed lung? x I'm of the opinion that tobacco is natural/organic. Pure tobacco...not manufactured cigs. Chemical alternatives are not always the best option.
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Post by wildmaven on Sept 19, 2019 21:27:07 GMT -8
My cousin's son is in ICU from vaping with a collapsed lung. A chest tube had to be inserted. It's one thing to hear about cases on the news, but when it hits this close to home it's very frightening. What are we doing to our youth?! I share your concern. Do you know for certain that the vaping was the cause of his collapsed lung? x I'm of the opinion that tobacco is natural/organic. Pure tobacco...not manufactured cigs. Chemical alternatives are not always the best option. He was at a very prestigious hospital in Chicago, so I’m pretty sure they know their stuff. 😏
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Post by mmhmm on Sept 23, 2019 5:02:34 GMT -8
Good to hear the young man has been released from the hospital. Hopefully, the docs will be able to keep the pain under control and he'll achieve a full recovery soon.
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Post by Celeste on Dec 6, 2019 20:22:09 GMT -8
Any updates on your cousin's son, wildmaven? This was a couple months ago now, and I wonder if his recovery is progressing.
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