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Post by Meryl on Jan 22, 2020 17:07:03 GMT -8
I don't blame Harry and Meghan for wanting to go their own way. It's their life, and they can do what they want.
However, 'choosing' to marry into royalty isn't an easy decision. Harry had no choice in being royal, but Meghan did. She's not naive, she's lived. Did she honestly think her life would be her own when she chose to join the Firm?
If you 'choose' to join the Royal Family, it's a HUGE, life changing deal. Not to be taken lightly. Your life will change massively. Your life is no longer your own, for the main part. You have to do what you're told to do. You have obligations...responsibilities...duties. Did she not know/realise/accept that?
Anyway, with that said, why did they choose to have the whole Royal Wedding regalia? If they are so 'low key/independent', why didn't they get married in a local church/chapel...in private?
They've chosen to be independent NOW. Good luck with finding a job guys. Seriously, welcome to the real world. No using your royal titles now....you're civilians...like us.
I really wish you well. I do. I admire you, if that's the way you want to go. But, you can't have the penny and the bun.
Be happy, and remember, 'happiness is not having the best of everything, but making the best of what you have!'
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Post by CheatAreZee on Jan 22, 2020 20:09:13 GMT -8
Good luck with finding a job guys. Seriously, welcome to the real world. No using your royal titles now....you're civilians...like us. Something tells me they're not going to be applying for jobs at a Chipotle or 7-11. I think they'll be fine.
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Post by Meryl on Jan 22, 2020 20:40:05 GMT -8
Good luck with finding a job guys. Seriously, welcome to the real world. No using your royal titles now....you're civilians...like us. Something tells me they're not going to be applying for jobs at a Chipotle or 7-11. I think they'll be fine. Of course they will. They're just throwing their toys out of the pram. They won't survive on their own.....the Firm will support them. I was just being sacarstic.
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Post by 📚 Dianne 📚 on Jan 23, 2020 3:24:18 GMT -8
Do they really think that by renouncing their titles and moving to Canada is going to keep them out of the limelight? I'm sorry, but I think that they just painted a huge target on their backs. Plus I don't think the same rules apply to civilians that do to royals.
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Post by Capitan on Jan 23, 2020 4:59:35 GMT -8
I don't blame Harry and Meghan for wanting to go their own way. It's their life, and they can do what they want. However, 'choosing' to marry into royalty isn't an easy decision. Harry had no choice in being royal, but Meghan did. She's not naive, she's lived. Did she honestly think her life would be her own when she chose to join the Firm? If you 'choose' to join the Royal Family, it's a HUGE, life changing deal. Not to be taken lightly. Your life will change massively. Your life is no longer your own, for the main part. You have to do what you're told to do. You have obligations...responsibilities...duties. Did she not know/realise/accept that? I'm sure that one can understand in principle what will happen when one marries into the royal family, think one can manage under the pressure, and then discover that it's really really not for you (especially in the face of so much continuous, personally invasive, racist press coverage). I don't blame her for wanting to step back at all, I'm really only surprised it's taken them this long. Don't be surprised if they also abdicate their titles at some point in the future to claim a full private life in the face of further invasive and racist coverage. In any case, the royal family is an inhuman institution that by design removes a set of fundamental rights (right to vote, have political opinions, have a private life) from a small number of people solely for the reason of their birth, with the expectation that large monetary compensation will make up for it. It's incompatible with a democratic society, and it's nigh time it was abolished. Especially since it seems that paedophiles and racists can make their home there and receive less attention than a woman who doesn't want to be bizarrely criticised for the way she eats her avocados or puts her hands on her baby bump.
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Post by stevecureboi on Jan 23, 2020 5:54:03 GMT -8
In any case, the royal family is an inhuman institution that by design removes a set of fundamental rights (right to vote, have political opinions, have a private life) This is incorrect. The royal family has all those rights. Those in line of succession are expected to remain neutral so as not to influence the public and regardless of who is in political office, they are referred to as her or his majesty's government. The rest of the royals have every right to vote & have political opinions. Whether they choose to use them ( they can choose) is entirely up to them. They also have a right to a private life. Something that is usually denied to them by photographers hiding in bushes or chasing them through Parisian tunnels late at night. I am no fan of the monarchy whatsoever. I am a citizen not a subject. But at the end of the day, they are just people. Very privileged people, but still people.
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Post by Capitan on Jan 23, 2020 6:12:26 GMT -8
In any case, the royal family is an inhuman institution that by design removes a set of fundamental rights (right to vote, have political opinions, have a private life) This is incorrect. The royal family has all those rights. Those in line of succession are expected to remain neutral so as not to influence the public and regardless of who is in political office, they are referred to as her or his majesty's government. But none of them choose to do so, so they de facto do not have these rights (if they used them, they would likely cause some kind of constitutional chaos - what would happen if the Queen voted!), even if on paper they do.
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Post by 🍁🇨🇦 Tai Pan 🇨🇦🍁 on Jan 23, 2020 6:15:20 GMT -8
I love the Monarchy......... living History. Shame the Canadian tax payer might have to pay for their security. Harry and William both got around 6 million pounds from their Mothers will so I think they can pay to have the RCMP watch over them.
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Post by Retread on Jan 23, 2020 6:58:32 GMT -8
I don't blame Harry and Meghan for wanting to go their own way. It's their life, and they can do what they want. However, 'choosing' to marry into royalty isn't an easy decision. Harry had no choice in being royal, but Meghan did. She's not naive, she's lived. Did she honestly think her life would be her own when she chose to join the Firm? If you 'choose' to join the Royal Family, it's a HUGE, life changing deal. Not to be taken lightly. Your life will change massively. Your life is no longer your own, for the main part. You have to do what you're told to do. You have obligations...responsibilities...duties. Did she not know/realise/accept that? Anyway, with that said, why did they choose to have the whole Royal Wedding regalia? If they are so 'low key/independent', why didn't they get married in a local church/chapel...in private?They've chosen to be independent NOW. Good luck with finding a job guys. Seriously, welcome to the real world. No using your royal titles now....you're civilians...like us. I really wish you well. I do. I admire you, if that's the way you want to go. But, you can't have the penny and the bun. Be happy, and remember, 'happiness is not having the best of everything, but making the best of what you have!' Do any of us know the details of why they chose to 'divorce' themselves from the Royal family? I think not. The reality is, relationships change due to events which occur over time. Personal goals and values change. People change.
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Post by stevecureboi on Jan 23, 2020 7:03:09 GMT -8
This is incorrect. The royal family has all those rights. Those in line of succession are expected to remain neutral so as not to influence the public and regardless of who is in political office, they are referred to as her or his majesty's government. But none of them choose to do so, so they de facto do not have these rights (if they used them, they would likely cause some kind of constitutional chaos - what would happen if the Queen voted!), even if on paper they do. De facto is what happens in practice. It's not a legal denial of rights. They have the rights. That's a fact & lawfully they are entitled to exercise them (such as stepping away from the royal family to do their own thing). To choose not to is exactly that. A choice. I hope Harry & Meghan are allowed to get on with their life choice away from the frothing, racist press trolls that continually spew vitriol implying she has caused it all.
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Post by Retread on Jan 23, 2020 7:03:39 GMT -8
Something that is usually denied to them by photographers hiding in bushes or chasing them through Parisian tunnels late at night. Mournful thought, that.
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Post by stevecureboi on Jan 23, 2020 7:30:53 GMT -8
Something that is usually denied to them by photographers hiding in bushes or chasing them through Parisian tunnels late at night. Mournful thought, that. Yep. It's sad, but true though. What's more is that Harry has effectively said he doesn't want what happened to his mother to happen to his family. The press have been at Meghan's throat since day one. It's not a big surprise they wanted to get out of there. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-double-standards-royal
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Post by MzPanik on Jan 23, 2020 9:39:16 GMT -8
I wish them the best. I will admit that I was surprised to hear of their separation from the royal family, but I can understand all sides of this one. It's a life of luxury and glory, surely, but also a very stressful life.
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Post by Scott on Jan 23, 2020 10:29:51 GMT -8
However, 'choosing' to marry into royalty isn't an easy decision. Harry had no choice in being royal, but Meghan did. She's not naive, she's lived. Did she honestly think her life would be her own when she chose to join the Firm? If you 'choose' to join the Royal Family, it's a HUGE, life changing deal. Not to be taken lightly. Your life will change massively. Your life is no longer your own, for the main part. You have to do what you're told to do. You have obligations...responsibilities...duties. Did she not know/realise/accept that? This implies that Meghan is orchestrating the decision to step back from being a 'royal'. From all the news and such I've seen, this appears to more of Harry's doing, and quite understandably so: Prince Harry says he's reminded of his mother Princess Diana's death every time he sees a camera flash"I think being part of this family, in this role, in this job, every single time I see a camera, every single time I hear a click, every single time I see a flash, it takes me straight back, so in that respect it's the worst reminder of her life, as opposed to the best."William and Harry's Young Ages When Diana Died Are Still ShockingIt appears he still struggles with the death of his mother and he's trying to protect his family from a similar fate. Whether their decision is right or wrong, there isn't a precedent for this. And so really I can't blame them in their attempt to take a step back. It's one thing to be in the spotlight, but another when the privacy line is crossed: Prince Harry suing owners of British tabloids over alleged phone hackingTabloid press has gotten out of hand. It's not about reporting news, or having respect. It all about gossipmongering and the all mighty buck. Sheesh even Meghan's father is gunning for his 15-minutes of fame and dissing his daughter, all the while trying to profit from her and get his "in" with the royals. Disgusting IMHO.
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Post by Graham on Jan 23, 2020 13:11:23 GMT -8
If, like Harry you have had to walk behind a gun carriage carrying your dead mother infront of a worldwide audience, had the UK press (which truly is the scum of the earth) constantly question his parentage and then decide that his new wife is public enemy #1 and is trying to destroy the Royal Family from the inside, then I think anyone in that situation is perfectly entitled to bugger off and do what they feel they need to for as quiet and happy a life as possible.
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