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109382
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uzi
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August 2007
uzi
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Post by uzi on Jan 25, 2008 20:07:12 GMT -8
We weren't saying linking to the codes is disallowed, we were talking about file_get_contents(), crawlers, and other methods.
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hi
65816
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Dec 19, 2020 21:47:21 GMT -8
Ryan
Yo.
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December 2005
eliasfong
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Post by Ryan on Jan 25, 2008 20:17:34 GMT -8
So if he is crawling then that should be ok right? i mean thats what google does and other search engines so if he's just crawling then he's fine
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109382
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uzi
1,756
August 2007
uzi
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Post by uzi on Jan 25, 2008 22:43:35 GMT -8
True true, crawling is acceptable (I'd imagine), but the former (file_get_contents() etc) wouldn't be.
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6720
0
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Webworldx
Lurker
363
January 2003
webworldx
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Post by Webworldx on Jan 26, 2008 2:31:16 GMT -8
It's pretty much what google does, and google cache does, so there's nothing "wrong" with it as such. Visiting the page doesn't cause a hammering of the proboards server, it's all stored on the ifcode side Hope you like enjoy it anyway!
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Guide
New Member
Posts: 0
inherit
181056
0
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Guide
0
July 2012
11823
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Post by Guide on Jan 26, 2008 8:42:30 GMT -8
Very nice, will be helpful to new ones, well done
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inherit
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Chris
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December 2003
cddude
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Post by Chris on Jan 26, 2008 9:53:25 GMT -8
And this is why James is still considered in the "God" ranking of PB coders.
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Don't click here.
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Ðravu
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April 2004
dravu2000
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Post by Ðravu on Jan 26, 2008 11:02:34 GMT -8
It's pretty much what google does, and google cache does, so there's nothing "wrong" with it as such. Visiting the page doesn't cause a hammering of the proboards server, it's all stored on the ifcode side Hope you like enjoy it anyway! But Proboards (or rather Martyn) has repeatedly said no to codes harvesting information like that, even if it's been stored on a different server to reduce resource usage. He even rejected CJ's idea of using a code to grab the replier information for threads, even though there aren't any ads on it and the resource hit for the code would've been extremely low. Allowing you to do stuff like this and nobody else because "you're a great coder" doesn't really seem right.
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Anoop
Legalize Arowana
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January 2007
anoop
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Post by Anoop on Jan 26, 2008 13:11:53 GMT -8
It's pretty much what google does, and google cache does, so there's nothing "wrong" with it as such. Visiting the page doesn't cause a hammering of the proboards server, it's all stored on the ifcode side Hope you like enjoy it anyway! But Proboards (or rather Martyn) has repeatedly said no to codes harvesting information like that, even if it's been stored on a different server to reduce resource usage. He even rejected CJ's idea of using a code to grab the replier information for threads, even though there aren't any ads on it and the resource hit for the code would've been extremely low. Allowing you to do stuff like this and nobody else because "you're a great coder" doesn't really seem right. Ah, so this guy might get in trouble .
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6720
0
Jan 5, 2024 13:11:13 GMT -8
Webworldx
Lurker
363
January 2003
webworldx
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Post by Webworldx on Jan 26, 2008 16:02:13 GMT -8
It's pretty much what google does, and google cache does, so there's nothing "wrong" with it as such. Visiting the page doesn't cause a hammering of the proboards server, it's all stored on the ifcode side Hope you like enjoy it anyway! But Proboards (or rather Martyn) has repeatedly said no to codes harvesting information like that, even if it's been stored on a different server to reduce resource usage. He even rejected CJ's idea of using a code to grab the replier information for threads, even though there aren't any ads on it and the resource hit for the code would've been extremely low. Allowing you to do stuff like this and nobody else because "you're a great coder" doesn't really seem right. Dravu, there's no difference between writing each thread URL out individually into a file and doing what I've done. By your explanation, no code index anywhere would be valid, or copying any thread url and pasting it on any web server. Just be happy it exists and hopefully is helping people!
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inherit
Don't click here.
23409
0
Jul 19, 2016 11:37:12 GMT -8
Ðravu
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3,309
April 2004
dravu2000
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Post by Ðravu on Jan 26, 2008 17:14:25 GMT -8
But Proboards (or rather Martyn) has repeatedly said no to codes harvesting information like that, even if it's been stored on a different server to reduce resource usage. He even rejected CJ's idea of using a code to grab the replier information for threads, even though there aren't any ads on it and the resource hit for the code would've been extremely low. Allowing you to do stuff like this and nobody else because "you're a great coder" doesn't really seem right. Dravu, there's no difference between writing each thread URL out individually into a file and doing what I've done. By your explanation, no code index anywhere would be valid, or copying any thread url and pasting it on any web server. Just be happy it exists and hopefully is helping people! Actually, there is. You're viewing the ads when you go to copy and paste which I think is the reason the admins didn't like automatic source grabbing to get the information. Why are you explaining to me anyways? I wasn't the one who said you couldn't do it. I am happy it exists, but am not happy that you can do what you want while all other coders have to go by the unwritten TOS rules.
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inherit
109382
0
Jan 6, 2019 9:03:49 GMT -8
uzi
1,756
August 2007
uzi
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Post by uzi on Jan 26, 2008 19:02:40 GMT -8
He could view the ads and then use the crawler. o.o He doesn't have to manually visit each link I'd assume, just the indexes of each thread.
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inherit
Don't click here.
23409
0
Jul 19, 2016 11:37:12 GMT -8
Ðravu
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April 2004
dravu2000
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Post by Ðravu on Jan 26, 2008 19:13:06 GMT -8
He could view the ads and then use the crawler. o.o He doesn't have to manually visit each link I'd assume, just the indexes of each thread. He could. He could go to each page and use a Javascript code to grab all the links and such since that's client-side and he'd still be seeing the ads and all that stuff. But in what he's doing, he's hitting pages without viewing the ads and that's something the admins have been strongly against for awhile. They won't even let you use those kinds of codes when you have ad-free.
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6720
0
Jan 5, 2024 13:11:13 GMT -8
Webworldx
Lurker
363
January 2003
webworldx
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Post by Webworldx on Jan 28, 2008 5:41:35 GMT -8
If it's a huge problem, I can go recreate the project in AIR/Apollo and do it all client side and still have the same resulting files at the end, but haven't heard anything from Martyn yet saying this isn't allowed - so i'll just leave the post up for now.
Thanks everyone so far who liked it! I fixed a few bugs in it today with the SSD index not showing.
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VS Admin
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January 2000
admin
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Post by VS Admin on Jan 28, 2008 6:39:20 GMT -8
Dravu, there's no difference between writing each thread URL out individually into a file and doing what I've done. By your explanation, no code index anywhere would be valid, or copying any thread url and pasting it on any web server. Just be happy it exists and hopefully is helping people! Actually, there is. You're viewing the ads when you go to copy and paste which I think is the reason the admins didn't like automatic source grabbing to get the information. Why are you explaining to me anyways? I wasn't the one who said you couldn't do it. I am happy it exists, but am not happy that you can do what you want while all other coders have to go by the unwritten TOS rules. There's a huge difference between this and putting a code on your board to grab extra data. If you added a code that grabbed information from another page from your board, you would then essentially be sending double the requests to our servers. Every single pageview becomes two. In a system like this, he could load maybe 60 pages once a week and have a full database listing available for you to search with. Patrick
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inherit
111075
0
May 26, 2014 11:04:42 GMT -8
SwordGrunt
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September 2007
guigui
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Post by SwordGrunt on Jan 28, 2008 6:56:27 GMT -8
Nice, but I can't see all 535 PBS codes in there
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