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Post by ∞ ConqueringWolf ∞ on Aug 29, 2010 5:31:24 GMT -8
Just another case of things being twisted around to suit the current political views of the church. I especially found this part interesting Their unity, considered romantic by some historians and depicted through the image of marriage at St. Catherine’s monastery, was commemorated in many subsequent liturgies. The late Yale historian John Boswell found evidence for other Christian same-sex marriage ceremonies continuing even into the Eighteenth Century. It wasn't just one instance that was possibly being misconstrued. There were numerous documents which backed up the fact they were married. Not to mention other instances besides just this one. Reminds me of how the Catholic church removed a whole bunch of books from the bible because those didn't conform to what they wanted people to believe
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Post by iGeorge on Aug 29, 2010 10:04:07 GMT -8
Reminds me of how the Catholic church removed a whole bunch of books from the bible because those didn't conform to what they wanted people to believe The Catholic church behaved unscrupulously?! NEVAR!
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Post by Less.Than.Three. on Aug 29, 2010 10:10:21 GMT -8
It's an interesting read, but I doubt it will truly convince anyone to change their views. One image of two early Christian men getting married isn't likely to cause anyone to rethink their opinion on one of the most controversial Biblical doctrines. The early church, as many would have to agree, was not always the best example of Christianity; just because the early church did something doesn't mean that it necessarily lines up with Christian doctrine.
But that's just my take as devil's advocate. I certainly agree with the article, and think it's a shame that so many look to religion to justify their homophobia.
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Post by MarvinRules on Aug 29, 2010 10:13:08 GMT -8
It will not change anything. Same with providing proof that the US was not founded in Christianity, or by Christians. Those who oppose gay marrage or religious freedoms do not care about real facts. They only care about the "facts" that they are told by their religious and political leaders. And then only those "facts" that support their personal views. (Or the views they were told to have by their religious & political leaders)
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Post by Storm on Aug 29, 2010 10:24:53 GMT -8
I'll be saving this article to show someone's mom who abuses her son because of his 'relationship'.. I'd love to see the look on her face. xD
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Post by clonetroopermatt on Aug 29, 2010 11:59:18 GMT -8
It's funny how people try to twist things for their agenda.
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Post by Pats Freak 101 on Aug 29, 2010 12:15:44 GMT -8
The Bible has tons of finger prints on it that aren't God.
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Post by ToriJ on Aug 29, 2010 13:30:18 GMT -8
It won't change anything. People are set in their views and I'm sure there are those against homosexuality who will claim those early Christians weren't real Christians for being gay. Just in the same way people told me I'm not a real Christian because I don't make it painfully obvious and witness to as many people as possible. People are amusing.
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Post by Ash on Aug 29, 2010 13:48:58 GMT -8
Why have a thread on this? Lol, GT certainly has a thing on gay rights. All sins mentioned in the Bible go for every human-being. lying, stealing, homosexuality, ectect. not one person can do something like murdering and it be ok and another person it's not...Doesn't work that way. Pats Freak 101 Freak 101 The bible was written by prophets so yeah human prints are on it lol. you're right Anyway, there's always going to be a person who disagrees with a sin and/or abomination.
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Post by Syko Nachoman on Aug 29, 2010 13:52:41 GMT -8
The Bible has tons of finger prints on it that aren't God. Is that a quote from somewhere or did you just come up with it yourself? Because I really like that
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Post by Matej on Aug 29, 2010 14:11:47 GMT -8
Why have a thread on this? Lol, GT certainly has a thing on gay rights. All sins mentioned in the Bible go for every human-being. lying, stealing, homosexuality, ectect. not one person can do something like murdering and it be ok and another person it's not...Doesn't work that way. Pats Freak 101 Freak 101 The bible was written by prophets so yeah human prints are on it lol. you're right Anyway, there's always going to be a person who disagrees with a sin and/or abomination. It's a hugely debated issue, of course there will be topics. So not one person can do it and it be ok? Does it work the opposite way? Can someone changing the meaning of the Bible be ok? If it used to be ok in the past, what changed to make it wrong? And who are you to stop me from having equal federal rights because I love a different gender than you do?
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Post by Ash on Aug 29, 2010 14:16:59 GMT -8
Why have a thread on this? Lol, GT certainly has a thing on gay rights. All sins mentioned in the Bible go for every human-being. lying, stealing, homosexuality, ectect. not one person can do something like murdering and it be ok and another person it's not...Doesn't work that way. Pats Freak 101 Freak 101 The bible was written by prophets so yeah human prints are on it lol. you're right Anyway, there's always going to be a person who disagrees with a sin and/or abomination. It's a hugely debated issue, of course there will be topics. So not one person can do it and it be ok? Does it work the opposite way? Can someone changing the meaning of the Bible be ok? If it used to be ok in the past, what changed to make it wrong? And who are you to stop me from having equal federal rights because I love a different gender than you do? It wasn't okay in the past to begin with And excuse me? "who are you to stop me?" i never said anything like that! I never said "YOU CAN'T BE GAYYYYY" I don't care if you are or not. Nor do I have a problems with gays. jeez woop... And no, changing the Bible is wrong.
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Post by Matej on Aug 29, 2010 14:18:55 GMT -8
It's a hugely debated issue, of course there will be topics. So not one person can do it and it be ok? Does it work the opposite way? Can someone changing the meaning of the Bible be ok? If it used to be ok in the past, what changed to make it wrong? And who are you to stop me from having equal federal rights because I love a different gender than you do? It wasn't okay in the past to begin with And excuse me? "who are you to stop me?" i never said anything like that! I never said "YOU CAN'T BE GAYYYYY" I don't care if you are or not. Nor do I have a problems with gays. jeez woop... And no, changing the Bible is wrong. Sorry, I should have made that clear, the "you" was referring to anyone, not you as in yourself. Bad choice of words there. I'm just annoyed that some religion, which I do not belong to, nor does the country (read my signature as part of the constitution) is preventing me from legally immigrating to the USA because of the choice of my love and the events that unfold in my own privacy. Why should said religion affect my life when I'm not even a part of it?
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Post by ToriJ on Aug 29, 2010 14:26:57 GMT -8
Why should said religion affect my life when I'm not even a part of it? It shouldn't. I don't think some Christians realize that you don't have to condone the act to let them marry, you just tolerate it. They shouldn't expect people outside their religious beliefs to submit to them if they themselves aren't even a part of that religion. I know I don't. They should let them marry on the grounds that this is a free Country and God gave us free will for a reason. Churches can deny who they wish so it's not like they're forcing same-sex marriages on the Church. If a Church somewhere performs a same-sex marriage they should take it up with the Church not with the gay couple...
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