Need a class. (Php)

[Bennett 🚀]

I might pop in too. Just to see if i've been overlooking something more easily used instead of some methods i've grown to use.

[Charles Stover]

May 23, 2011 21:04:43 GMT -8 James [a_leon] said:

He moved to PHP....four or five years ago, now? maybe even six, I don't remember.

I started around that time, I think. Definitely not six, but closer to four or five. I don't know when I started PHP exactly, but I started HTML eight years ago at ze ripe ol' age of 13.

[James [a_leon]]

May 24, 2011 21:39:07 GMT -8 Charles Stover said:

May 23, 2011 21:04:43 GMT -8 James [a_leon] said:

He moved to PHP....four or five years ago, now? maybe even six, I don't remember.

I started around that time, I think. Definitely not six, but closer to four or five. I don't know when I started PHP exactly, but I started HTML eight years ago at ze ripe ol' age of 13.

Same for me, only I started with trueBASIC, then went to Visual Basic, HTML, then naturally, Javascript and then Java and Matlab. yay languages! Don't remember much from truebasic:P

[gfx25]

So is trueBASIC pretty hard to learn?

[James [a_leon]]

Not really. it's very easy to read, I just haven't done it since 2003.

[Bennett 🚀]

I started HTML in like 7th grade (so i was like 12-13ish) and progressed to javascript that same year + css, then to really basic PHP in 8th grade, and now it's actually making sense in my brain. PHP without mysql is like a sin to me xD

[Charles Stover]

May 25, 2011 10:46:58 GMT -8 Bennett 🚀 said:

I started HTML in like 7th grade (so i was like 12-13ish) and progressed to javascript that same year + css, then to really basic PHP in 8th grade, and now it's actually making sense in my brain. PHP without mysql is like a sin to me xD

Sounds like you're progressing a little too fast. No way you're getting the full understanding of DOM so soon.

May just be me, but I don't think people should move on to other languages until they completely understand the previous. I came to this realization when I realized I didn't understand MySQL at all even though I was using it and writing a ton of programs in it. In fact, the first version of my shoutbox used an ungodly, evil database structure that I abhor now. I didn't know how to optimize anything in MySQL, let alone in PHP, because I jumped into them both at the same time.

It would have saved so much of a hassle if I knew to compress and cache content in PHP before I started MySQL, or if I knew how DOM functioned before I started developing JavaScript applications, or if I knew XHTML before I started CSS.

PHP is such an encompassing, powerful language; and so is JavaScript. I just wish more people would get a better foundation of the languages before moving on to more.

I didn't (and many others don't either, it seems), and it was a pain to go back and learn what I missed. The trend seems to be to learn only what you need (and not what you will need, instead to cross that bridge when you come to it), then go on to the next language. As a result, you often miss extremely useful capabilities that you would have never thought to look for (such as cache, compression in PHP), or you don't get the grasp of how the language works (JavaScript's use of DOM), which makes debugging harder, production time longer, and headaches worse.

/rant

[Bennett 🚀]

And you're right, I still don't get like HTML hierarchy very well, with parentNode's and such. They don't make sense still, though my HTML is really XHTML cause i like the /> at the end of like img tags.
CSS makes sense to me though.
Though, as you need more skills and want to do more, you lose interest in your current language and work on the new language. That was my thought with javascript to PHP + MySQL.