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[Thesealion]

Ok thanks both of you Do you have any recommendations for maybe a code simulator? Or should i just get some sort of free host to start testing things?

[RedBassett]

Free hosts can be a pain to get working. I would recommend setting up a local testing environment. Most introduction tutorials will assume you are working local.

[Thesealion]

Ok...and how does one do that? Sorry I really am new to anything except ProBoards coding and i was never that good at that

[RedBassett]

The method depends on what OS you are running, however I would highly recommend the book PHP Solutions[/php] by David Powers, as it covers everything from setting up a local environment to basic PHP and MySQL in a well-organized tutorial.

[Thesealion]

I'll look into it

[Rick Ace]

Well, if you're interested in Python, I would suggest "Learn Python the Hard Way".

learnpythonthehardway.org/book/ is the free HTML version. You can get it on paperback, hardcover, or pdf for a fee. But depending on your application, Python may not serve your needs.

[Thesealion]

So what is the difference between PHP and Python?

[Rick Ace]

Jul 27, 2012 5:40:13 GMT -8 Thesealion said:

So what is the difference between PHP and Python?

Most would agree that Python is the more professional choice. Advantages over PHP include security, performance, and perhaps lower costs. Arguably, Python is a little harder to learn than PHP. Of course, that depends on what you're trying to write. Both languages are easy to learn. For the professionals, I guess PHP may have too many bugs.

In the end, it depends on what you would like to do. Many prefer to stay away from PHP. But the vast amounts of online tutorials can make it a tempting language. The available frameworks, security, and performance, may make Python a better language.

Either way, it's definitely easier than Perl as Proboards uses it.

[Thesealion]

Ok...so have you read what i was trying to do? Just wondering which language it would work better in...

[RedBassett]

Jul 27, 2012 5:50:16 GMT -8 Rick Ace said:

Jul 27, 2012 5:40:13 GMT -8 Thesealion said:

So what is the difference between PHP and Python?

Most would agree that Python is the more professional choice. Advantages over PHP include security, performance, and perhaps lower costs. Arguably, Python is a little harder to learn than PHP. Of course, that depends on what you're trying to write. Both languages are easy to learn. For the professionals, I guess PHP may have too many bugs.

In the end, it depends on what you would like to do. Many prefer to stay away from PHP. But the vast amounts of online tutorials can make it a tempting language. The available frameworks, security, and performance, may make Python a better language.

Either way, it's definitely easier than Perl as Proboards uses it.

I would disagree on the claims that Python is more professional. I work in a professional environment where we use both languages. PHP is used for all quick development work, as Python is a pain to get set up for web serving and databasing.

Honestly I like PHP much more than Python too, mostly because of the culture behind each one.

As for the OPs question, I think PHP is a better fit, as Python is mostly just overkill for a small project like that, as well as harder to host.

[Thesealion]

Ok thanks

Hey, do you know of any good online PHP tuts? I am not really interested in buying a book that i may or may not use depending on how much i get into this

[Rick Ace]

Jul 27, 2012 6:16:28 GMT -8 RedBassett said:

I would disagree on the claims that Python is more professional.

The increased performance and security makes Python a more viable option for professional companies, where financial gains dictate the environment. This would hold true to most professional environments.

[coolcoolcool]

Actually, most professional environments are more about getting stuff done as quickly and efficiently as possible. Using python adds an element of complexity that makes small projects take much longer to get into production.. If you're in a company that actually needs to worry about server load and efficiency, then they'll probably be doing things at a level that simply knowing python won't really be of any help.

Take facebook for example. They actually use php because of how quickly you can develop with it and transforms it to optimized c++ with something they call hiphop for php. Of course, facebook probably also uses all kids of different programming languages like ruby on rails or python, but at the end of the day knowing those simple languages that get the job done quickly are far more useful than starting with a language like python that's really just going to discourage you in the end.

That's just my opinion though. If op wants to learn python, good for him. It would also suit him well.

[Rick Ace]

Jul 28, 2012 4:55:40 GMT -8 coolcoolcool said:

Actually, most professional environments are more about getting stuff done as quickly and efficiently as possible. Using python adds an element of complexity that makes small projects take much longer to get into production.. If you're in a company that actually needs to worry about server load and efficiency, then they'll probably be doing things at a level that simply knowing python won't really be of any help.

A company is all about looking at the opportunity cost. The costs of hiring a Python developer, saving on server costs, and saving on potential security issues, usually outweigh the costs of hiring the developer, in comparison to hiring a PHP developer and working through the other issues. While the case may change often, Python should be a long-term solution for projects with high amounts of traffic, and many lines of coding.

[Thesealion]

Ok so one more question How would one go about doing the main part of what i asked. I've been looking at tutorials and think i can figure out how to create the database and other things, but how would one attach this code to a picture which can be put in someone's profile on a forum? Or did i misunderstand you guys?