Posting/PM Word Count

[tangied]

Hello,

Previously, my word counter worked and is perfectly fine. However, I had disabled it for a few sections tot he forum, but it disabled all parts of it,,including the roleplaying section which I had not disabled.  I would appreciate it when you have the time to check it out. Thank!  

tsau.boards.net

[Chris]

Mar 26, 2014 20:40:22 GMT -8 tangied said:

Hello,

Previously, my word counter worked and is perfectly fine. However, I had disabled it for a few sections tot he forum, but it disabled all parts of it,,including the roleplaying section which I had not disabled.  I would appreciate it when you have the time to check it out. Thank!  

tsau.boards.net

Hi tangied, I created an account to take a look and got the counter with the general 30 word minimum that was set for the forum when I tried to create a thread

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Are others on the forum having an issue or is it just you as a member of staff? If it's a staff problem then have you checked that the setting for it to affect staff is enabled or have you tried testing with a non-staff account? If not the case then can you give me a particular board and/or category where the settings dictate a 30 word minimum but it is not enforcing such a minimum? A mention of the browser being used might also be relevant.

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For my own future reference I am including the following info regarding the tsau.boards.net forum and the settings that I currently see

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{
 "default_mode": "words",
 "alternative_target_id": "",
 "limit_type": "min_length",
 "limit_threshold": "30",
 "exempt_members": [],
 "exempt_groups": [],
 "limit_threads": [],
 "limit_boards": [
   {
     "board": [
       "78"
     ], //CAS
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "79"
     ], //Questions
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "6"
     ], //NOT GUEST VIEWABLE
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "160"
     ], //Events
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "20"
     ], //Free Chat
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "17"
     ], //Studio
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "85"
     ], //Plots
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "board": [
       "83"
     ], //Adoption
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   }
 ],
 "limit_categories": [
   {
     "category": [
       "16"
     ], //NOT GUEST VIEWABLE
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "category": [
       "13"
     ], //OOC Section
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "category": [
       "11"
     ], //General
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "0",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "category": [
       "12"
     ], //The Shop
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "0",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   },
   {
     "category": [
       "14"
     ], //Others
     "limit_type": "none",
     "limit": "0",
     "exclude_members": [],
     "exclude_groups": []
   }
 ],
 "enable_enhanced": [],
 "money_mode": "bonus",
 "word_up": [],
 "ignores": [
   {
     "bbcode": "quote",
     "html": "div.quote"
   },
   {
     "bbcode": "code",
     "html": "code"
   },
   {
     "bbcode": "img",
     "html": "img"
   }
 ],
 "word_regex": " /\\b[\\w\\-']+\\b/g",
 "post_pattern": "/(%[wc]c#[-+\\d]*)/gi",
 "bbcode_max": "300",
 "enable_debugging": []
}
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category-11 : General
category-15 : Roleplay Center
category-12 : The Shop
category-10 : Luminousclan
category-17 : Frigidclan
category-18 : Rogue Band
category-19 : Other territory
category-20 : Sacred territory
category-21 : The Ancestors
category-13 : OOC Section
category-14 : Others
*/
/* BOARDS
81 : Rules
80 : Announcements & Updates
79 : Questions
78 : CAS
89 : Creating a Character
88 : Accepted Characters
124 : Character Management
85 : Plots
83 : Adoption
82 : Kits
163 : School!
45 : LuminousClan
43 : LuminousClan Territory
130 : FrigidClan
132 : FrigidClan Territory
99 : Rogue Band
101 : Rogue Band Territory
29 : Roguelands
25 : Twoleg Place
24 : The Peace Willow
131 : Whisper Grove
111 : StarClan
112 : The Dark Forest
160 : Events
20 : Free Chat
17 : Studios
5 : Affiliates
4 : Advertising
3 : Junkyard
*/
/* SUBBOARDS
161 : Spotlights!
157 : Newsletters
93 : LuminousClan
92 : FrigidClan
118 : Rogue Band
91 : Rogues & Kittypets
113 : Characters No Longer Role-played
96 : LuminousClan
95 : FrigidClan
116 : Rogue Band
114 : StarClan/Dark Forest
94 : Rogues & Kittypets
127 : Threads
126 : Pairing up
125 : Biographies
153 : Adopted
154 : Finished Litters
68 : Camp
66 : HighRock
144 : Revealedstar‘s den
141 : Medicine Cat‘s den
150 : Nursery
146 : Warriors Den
148 : Apprentice Den
151 : Elders Den
129 : The Gorge
60 : Pine Forest
59 : Herb Meadow
58 : The Swamp
120 : Hollow Tree
135 : Camp
138 : HighOak
140 : Shatteredstar‘s den
143 : Medicine Cat‘s den
149 : Nursery
145 : Warriors Den
147 : Apprentice Den
152 : Elders Den
139 : The Owl Tree
133 : Thorn Maze
137 : The River
134 : The WaterFall
102 : Barn
103 : Hay Clump
110 : ScrapPile
109 : Barren-Land
108 : The Field
159 : Broken Chicken Coop
32 : The Meadow
34 : The Caves
26 : Twoleg Nests
162 : Roleplaying School
10 : Playground
70 : Going Away
71 : Starting Off
8 : Movie Theater
72 : Gallery
9 : Writing Workshop
115 : First Time
15 : Linking Back
*/

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General[category-11].Announcements & Updates[board-80]
General[category-11].Announcements & Updates[board-80].Spotlights![sub-board-161]
General[category-11].Announcements & Updates[board-80].Newsletters[sub-board-157]
General[category-11].Questions[board-79]
General[category-11].CAS[board-78]
General[category-11].Guides[board-77]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Creating a Character[board-89]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Creating a Character[board-89].LuminousClan[sub-board-93]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Creating a Character[board-89].FrigidClan[sub-board-92]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Creating a Character[board-89].Rogue Band[sub-board-118]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Creating a Character[board-89].StarClan/Dark Forest[sub-board-117]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Creating a Character[board-89].Rogues & Kittypets[sub-board-91]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88].Characters No Longer Role-played[sub-board-113]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88].LuminousClan[sub-board-96]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88].FrigidClan[sub-board-95]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88].Rogue Band[sub-board-116]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88].StarClan/Dark Forest[sub-board-114]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Accepted Characters[board-88].Rogues & Kittypets[sub-board-94]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Character Management[board-124]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Character Management[board-124].Threads[sub-board-127]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Character Management[board-124].Pairing up[sub-board-126]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Character Management[board-124].Biographies[sub-board-125]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Plots[board-85]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Adoption[board-83]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Adoption[board-83].Adopted[sub-board-153]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Kits[board-82]
Roleplay Center[category-15].Kits[board-82].Finished Litters[sub-board-154]
Roleplay Center[category-15].School![board-163]
The Shop[category-12].Berrishops[board-6]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Camp[sub-board-68]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].HighRock[sub-board-66]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Revealedstar‘s den[sub-board-144]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Medicine Cat‘s den[sub-board-141]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Nursery[sub-board-150]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Warriors Den[sub-board-146]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Apprentice Den[sub-board-148]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan [board-45].Elders Den[sub-board-151]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan Territory[board-43]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan Territory[board-43].The Gorge[sub-board-129]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan Territory[board-43].Pine Forest[sub-board-60]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan Territory[board-43].Herb Meadow[sub-board-59]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan Territory[board-43].The Swamp[sub-board-58]
Luminousclan[category-10].LuminousClan Territory[board-43].Hollow Tree[sub-board-120]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Camp[sub-board-135]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].HighOak[sub-board-138]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Shatteredstar‘s den[sub-board-140]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Medicine Cat‘s den[sub-board-143]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Nursery[sub-board-149]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Warriors Den[sub-board-145]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Apprentice Den[sub-board-147]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan [board-130].Elders Den[sub-board-152]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan Territory[board-132]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan Territory[board-132].The Owl Tree[sub-board-139]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan Territory[board-132].Thorn Maze[sub-board-133]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan Territory[board-132].The River[sub-board-137]
Frigidclan[category-17].FrigidClan Territory[board-132].The WaterFall[sub-board-134]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band[board-99]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band[board-99].Barn[sub-board-102]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band[board-99].Hay Clump[sub-board-103]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band Territory[board-101]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band Territory[board-101].ScrapPile[sub-board-110]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band Territory[board-101].Barren-Land[sub-board-109]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band Territory[board-101].The Field[sub-board-108]
Rogue Band[category-18].Rogue Band Territory[board-101].Broken Chicken Coop[sub-board-159]
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Other territory[category-19].Roguelands[board-29].The Meadow[sub-board-32]
Other territory[category-19].Roguelands[board-29].The Caves[sub-board-34]
Other territory[category-19].Twoleg Place[board-25]
Other territory[category-19].Twoleg Place[board-25].Twoleg Nests[sub-board-26]
Sacred territory[category-20].The Peace Willow[board-24]
Sacred territory[category-20].Whisper Grove[board-131]
The Ancestors[category-21].StarClan[board-111]
The Ancestors[category-21].The Dark Forest[board-112]
OOC Section[category-13].Events[board-160]
OOC Section[category-13].Free Chat[board-20]
OOC Section[category-13].Free Chat[board-20].Roleplaying School[sub-board-162]
OOC Section[category-13].Free Chat[board-20].Playground[sub-board-10]
OOC Section[category-13].Free Chat[board-20].Going Away[sub-board-70]
OOC Section[category-13].Free Chat[board-20].Starting Off[sub-board-71]
OOC Section[category-13].Studios[board-17]
OOC Section[category-13].Studios[board-17].Movie Theater[sub-board-8]
OOC Section[category-13].Studios[board-17].Gallery[sub-board-72]
OOC Section[category-13].Studios[board-17].Writing Workshop[sub-board-9]
Others[category-14].Affiliates[board-5]
Others[category-14].Advertising[board-4]
Others[category-14].Advertising[board-4].First Time[sub-board-115]
Others[category-14].Advertising[board-4].Linking Back[sub-board-15]
Others[category-14].Junkyard[board-3]
*/

[Pixel]

Is it possible to create a limit for the maximum number of characters allowed within posts?

[Chris]

Apr 18, 2014 16:08:06 GMT -8 Pixel said:

Is it possible to create a limit for the maximum number of characters allowed within posts?

The plugin offers minimum, maximum or none when creating a limit

[Former Member]

This plugin has so many fantastic features to it, it's absolutely mind-boggling. I hate knowing that I don't use it to its fullest potential because I don't quite understand many of the more advanced options, such as the v4 enhanced table options and the, well, Advanced tab. Any chance for a dumbing-down explanation real fast on those or is it about as simple as it can be said already?

[Chris]

May 27, 2014 17:03:18 GMT -8 ₪» ⅀ ƪ Ƒ «₪ said:

This plugin has so many fantastic features to it, it's absolutely mind-boggling. I hate knowing that I don't use it to its fullest potential because I don't quite understand many of the more advanced options, such as the v4 enhanced table options and the, well, Advanced tab. Any chance for a dumbing-down explanation real fast on those or is it about as simple as it can be said already?

Compatibility Tab

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The v4 enhanced table is meant to target the old V4 posting tables which were made obsolete with the release of the more advanced bbcodes in V5. These tables are easily identified by the use of a proprietary "[atrb]" tag and would not have been updated automatically when the forum was converted to V5 because they were not officially supported tags. Someone would have to edit and manually convert them to their V5 syntax for each and every post in which you find them.

When editing a post containing enhanced v4 tables, the existence of unconverted tags would throw the count off so the setting is there to render these tags first before starting a count. This can be applied to the preview tab only or can be applied full-time where as long as the plugin is running it will look for these old enhanced tables and render them without having to edit and upgrade them to V5 format. This can come in handy if you have thousands of posts you need to upgrade but don' have the time or manpower to do so just yet.

The monetary option allows you to plug into the popular monetary plugin allowing the poster to be awarded based on the number of words they have typed either as a bonus or as a prorated monetary payout. You setup the ranks, i.e. "this many words gets you this much money" then the plugin uses those values to decide how much is suppose to be given. In proportional (prorated) mode the value that is set in the monetary plugin for each post is used as the high water mark and if the poster does not meet or exceed the highest posting rank that you've set then they are given a proportional sum relative to that value set in the monetary plugin. To be clear, in proportional mode, if the highest rank is 1000 words but 500 words were posted then that means the monetary plugin would only give out 50% of what it is set to give out.

Advanced Tab

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the settings on this tab normally do not need to be modified, they are there for the rare cases.

• ignore content
  in this section we list tags that have content that should not be counted, by default the QUOTE, CODE and IMG tags are in this list. The V5 version of the image tag need not be in this list but the V4 format places the image url between the opening and closing tags thus appearing as countable content
  
  
• Word Pattern
  this is the pattern used to distinguish one word from another for counting purposes. It is a regular expression so you would need to know regular expressions in order to construct an alternate pattern.
  
  
• Post Pattern (default: /(%[wc]c#[-+\d]*)/gi)
  this is also a regular expression that is used to identify whether the person making the post also wants the count to be included in the post. By default it will look for the pattern %wc# (for wordcount) or %cc# (for character count) and replace that pattern with a number. Additionally you can add or subtract from the count with modifiers, for example, if you placed "word count: %wc#" in the post but did not want the words "word count" to be included in the count you would use "word count: %wc#-2" to subtract 2 from the count.
  
  
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  in the above example, by adding up the number of words that should not be counted in that template then placing that offset number in the "word count" tab with the pattern described above (e.g. %wc#-19), it will automatically be replaced upon posting with the accurate number of words actually considered content. Words such as "Template by Jawn.." would not be included in the total. The template could then be saved with that pattern so it can be reused
  
  
  
• BBCode Max (default:300)
  this is the maximum number of tags the counter will process in any given counting session. This setting exists because the plugin makes use of a function provided by Proboards that identifies and grabs tags, this function however is coded to give up after encountering 100 tags but the plugin needed a bit more headroom to work consistently on posts one may encounter on RPG forums. Set this value too high and it may appear that your browser has frozen or perhaps get a "script is busy" warning message from your browser
  
  
• Debugging
  this is for troubleshooting purposes only. It will log behind-the-scenes messages to the console to aid in identifying problems

[Former Member]

Thank you so much for clarifying, Eton, I really appreciate the clarification =D I'm gonna make more use of this plugin now that I understand it more haha

[Chris]

Submitted a version 1.0.3 update to the library with a few improvements:


- Updated for better compatibility with the current version (v0.7.5) of the Monetary plugin
- Support character mode when calculating for monetary payout.
- Detect empty word up ranks since this seems to be a common problem.
- Added ability to set negative values for monetary payouts (lose money when posting in certain threads, boards or categories)

[Nefa]

Chris,
This app has been a huge help to me when running my site, but I do have one problem: it doesn't seem to work when members are posting on their mobile version. Is this a problem other users have been having, or is it just me? Is there a way I can fix it?

My forum is www.forgottenpurrsrp.boards.net.

Thanks,
Nefa

[Chris]

Jul 3, 2014 14:20:49 GMT -8 Nefa said:

Chris,
This app has been a huge help to me when running my site, but I do have one problem: it doesn't seem to work when members are posting on their mobile version. Is this a problem other users have been having, or is it just me? Is there a way I can fix it?

My forum is www.forgottenpurrsrp.boards.net.

Thanks,
Nefa

Nefa unfortunately plugins are not capable of running in a mobile environment which is generally cramped for space and bandwidth so Proboards streamlines by automatically ignoring a few things deemed unnecessary to perform basic forum tasks (and that includes plugins). However, if you are using a mobile browser in desktop mode, by activating the button on the bottom right that says "Desktop", and you still are unable to use the counter then I'll try to see if anything can be done provided you can give me the browser name and mobile platform being used so I can see for myself.

[Chris]

Nefa I've been sort of waiting on you for that information I need to address your problem. Here's a bit more details if what I said in my last post was a bit unclear

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Chrome on Google Nexus 5
Mobile	Desktop Mode
Chrome on Apple iPhone 5
Mobile	Desktop Mode
Chrome on Apple iPad Mini
Mobile	Desktop Mode

Check the mobile version and you'll see a "desktop" button on the bottom right and no plugins will be running. Activate that desktop mode and you'll see plugins start working. Think of the mobile mode as sugar-free, fat-free and gluten-free version for reading and posting on a Proboards forum for those on a bandwidth diet.

I was planning on releasing a patch for a newly discovered bug today but I'll wait until tomorrow because it would be nice if I could include a fix in that patch for the problem you say you're having.

[Peter]

Chris

Would you be able to expose your methods for checking character / word length? Only if you have time and don't mind (also no rush, as I'm a good while off from working on the Trophy plugin).

Since you have done the work, I didn't want to have to re-invent the wheel. Eventually I plan on going back and working on the Trophy plugin, and I would like to add in a few trophies for post length, and decided that your plugin would be a great addition (and a requirement for any post length trophies) for it.

I haven't looked at the code, and I am betting you are doing far more than a very basic character / word length check.

[Chris]

Peter to properly expose I would probably need to do a complete rewrite using some variation of the module pattern . The plugin doesn't currently expose any global variables so for the time being I'll fudge a window.eton plain object with the plugin ID "eton_word_count" as a key within that object exposing a few methods and properties that might be useful such as grabbing editor text (getEditorText) that has been properly conditioned to nullify the differences between bbcode and html ( e.g. the treatment of html entities which can introduce count disparities between the two editors, not counting quoted text or bbcode tags, etc.). The last_length and last_word properties would reflect the last character and word count performed (updated on keyup/mouseup of message area activity). This way the transition to a module pattern should be seamless.

If you need something else exposed let me know, I'll try to push this today with the bug update

[Peter]

Chris

Thanks a lot, I appreciate that.

[Nefa]

Chris, apologies for the late response. I'm using Safari on iPhone 4. I don't have a problem myself with the word count, however we do have a requirement on my forum and a few members have been able to bypass it because of mobile version. But I guess this can't be fixed if all plugins are disabled on mobile version, I'm sure to find another way around it.