Trying to create a "Feedback" system like ebay's

[soiledtrunks]

i have just created a new forum with a large classified section. i have run several unsuccessful v4 forums, but have never attempted a site with a classified section.

i am looking to create a feedback system where members can leave feedback after a transaction, or sale has taken place. "postive," "nuetral," and "negative." and the results accumulate, and show the totals in the profiles and mini profiles.

i realize this would be quite an under taking to code this. but what i was thinking we might be able to do is to minipulate the karma plugin, or an rpg pluggin, or even minipulate both and use them together to achieve something remotely close.

the forum www.pbnation.com, is not proboards, but has a huge classified section. and has a very cool "feedback" feature for them. its not identical to ebay's, but is similar. if we can threoretically make a feedback system, i would NOT expect it to be exactly like either. just something to build a reputation for the other members, so they can trust one another. the more steps that we could take to prevent members from leaving false positives would be a must if someone were brave enough to tackle this idea for a pluggin, or help me use existing ones to make something remotely close.

the link to my forum is www.reviewowensboro.proboards.com

is this an idea that is even possible to become a pluggin?

is there anyway to use the karma pluggin, a rpg pluggin, or both to get something near what i might be looking for?

thanks for your time!

[diecast2]

I would like the same type of system but did not get a response on my request, I wish you the best of luck in getting a response... If you do please keep me updated. I have been trying to figure out how to create a custom page to make a feedback section for the members to go and leave feedbacks and have it tally up and placed in their profile / mini profile..

They are using Vbulletin to host their site that is why they have the feedback section the way they do.... I would also like to see that same type of system on Proboards...

[soiledtrunks]

I am more or less wondering if this is even an option with v5, i would think it deffinitely could be if the karma pluggin works.

we would have to make it where only two members could leave feedback in a thread, the thread author and whom ever they leave it for first. i think this would be the simplest way to achieve a so called feedback pluggin. if you wanted to actually have text feedbacks where members can type text about the tranaction may be alot more complex.

but i am not a coder by any means, and i really do not know if this is a possible pluggin.

[Wormopolis]

there is a plugin in the library called "post critiques" that you can make it where each post can be "critiqued" based on whatever classifications you want. could something like that work? it wouldnt be able to attach the results to a person however. a plugin that stores data on both person and thread requires 2 keys.

[soiledtrunks]

I am currently using the critique pluggin in on category only. Is there a way to make it where only the auther of the idivual thread can see it, until they have selected something on a members post in the thread. And once that has been done the member that was left said feedback can crituque or, leave feedback, the original post?

And having two different keys is that something that is to much work, or impossible? I'm not trying to impose or be rude by anymeans. I just think it might would be a pluggin that would spread like wildfire.

[Wormopolis]

its not impossible to use 2 keys, but expensive if you think about it. you only get so many, and 2 super keys. forums that arent prepared to invest money into upgrading key capacity will likely shy away from plugins that use more resources.. and because of that it wouldnt spread like wildfire.

Im not sure what you mean by making it where someone cant critique until the OP allows it?

[soiledtrunks]

May 30, 2013 19:08:23 GMT -8 Wormopolis said:

its not impossible to use 2 keys, but expensive if you think about it. you only get so many, and 2 super keys. forums that arent prepared to invest money into upgrading key capacity will likely shy away from plugins that use more resources.. and because of that it wouldnt spread like wildfire.

Im not sure what you mean by making it where someone cant critique until the OP allows it?

Got it. I don't know that you you need to keys to attain what I'm looking for. You really only need the data saved on the member account and not the thread. The critique plugin would be a nice input method for the data I'm wanting saved, but it allows every member of the forum to input the data on a said thread.

I'm looking for and input that the op could start, leave saved on another members account, and then that member can respond in the same thread with their input which would be saved to the op's account.

I'm needing something done to prohibit every member of the forum from making an input on these threads, but allow just two.

[Wormopolis]

well post critiques might be able to do that.. I think I can add in a mod that makes it where critiques only appear on first post, and the OP can toggle an "allow" button on subsequent replies in order to allow them to see the critique button. a super key would have to be required in addition to that however to store data for critiques associated to each member however. shorty already went through all the trouble to write out a karma plugin, so writing another one (which is basically what you are after) would be redundant and possibly insulting to him. you might appeal to him to see if it could be possible to mod his karma plugin to track the 3 types of rates. Im not sure if its possible to share keys between plugins, but if he agrees to it, and its possible, THEN you can link the data between the 2. it would be 2 plugins, each with 1 key.

a lot of "ifs" in all that however.

Tim Camara : is it possible to share data between plugin keys?

[soiledtrunks]

I'm just curious if the critique code could be changed as to where it stores the information? Rather than the subject line of each post, could it be moved to the mini profile like the karma code? And then add a tag to the profile template to display the acculative results aswell. Maybe it is more similar to the karma code then the critique.

One last question... what does a super key cost?

[Tim Camara]

Yeah, you should be able to access any present keys from any plugin. Of course, if the key is renamed in one, you'll have to manually rename it in the one that references it.

[diecast2]

I guess I am confused.... How would you use a critique as a feedback for an individual member? I would like something if a member sells/buys/trades they can leave a feedback. Here is my vision I just do not know how to go about it.

In the mini profile / profile there would be an icon that says Leave Feedback + (# of feedbacks received) and any member can click on that icon and leave a feedback with the following options:

Positive O     Neutral O      Negative O          Description/Comment           From/Member


With possibly an option of a dropdown window to choose the Positive/Neutral/Negative and another drop down window to Choose  Seller / Buyer / Trade

Sort of like the Karma System but a little more detailed. 

I was trying but couldn't figure out a way for each member to have their own custom page (or another tab on their profile page) so when you click on the Leave feedback in the mini profile or main profile it would direct you to that members page/tab and you can fill in the form as stated above. Sort of like clicking on the PM icon in the mini profile it opens up the message box with the members id already in the field.  I am just not that computer literate to figure that out and I was just wondering if there was a way to create this on my own or maybe a plugin? 


I am not sure that made sense but I hope you see what my vision is.

[Wormopolis]

making a plugin store ALL of that data will only get you so far. it only holds 4K worth of data. if you are going to want something where people can continually comment on a specific member, you might as well just have a board dedicated to members, and each member gets their own thread. you could even put a link to that thread in the MP with a custom profile field. then people can make comments pretty much limitless my making replies to that thread.

keeping track of the 3 different rates would be the same as I said above, a modification of the karma plugin.

[soiledtrunks]

here is what i thought we were talking about...

using the critique code as the input in a thread. i dont care about text form the members or buyer/seller stuff. acculative the totals of the 3 fields to be displayed in a members mini profile, and profile. if the karma pluggin would work better to do this then im all game... except on who, when, and where you can input into the karma pluggin. that i think is where the problem might be, or become extremely difficult. i dont see how, if you use the karma pluggin, you would need a key to save data cause your omitting the text to be saved with every feedback left. but i may be very wrong!

thank you Wormopolis !

i really appreciate your time, and patience. If this request becomes a burden please let me know and ill drop the request.

but if for some reason we would have to have a super key to work a pluggin like this properly, what might it run an admin of a board per year to keep this possible pluggin working you think?

[Wormopolis]

in order to save data that is attached to a specific member, that everyone can see, you have to use a super key. all the other keys are regular keys. the karma plugin already uses a super-key - which is why I suggested a collaboration with shorty to mod his code to track 3 different totals instead of just one.

I dont think this request is impossible. I can easily modify my post critique code to only work after OP approves a replier. I can even make my code modify the values of shorty's code if he is willing to mod in a 3 object tracking.

I am steering away from writing something completely new that mimics what 2 plugins already have the potential to do. seems like a better use of time then writing something from scratch that has HAS to use 2 keys. if you make a plugin that uses 2 keys, it ALWAYS uses 2 keys, even if you dont need the functionality of the second key. in other words, you make a feedback system that does the post tracking part, but someone doesnt want the tracking to exist on the members profile. they can option for it to not display, but they still ate the cost of 2 keys. essentially they wasted a super key.

packages for buying more keys, I believe, is available in the admin panel.

if Shorty wants to collaborate, im all for it.

[Shorty]

May 31, 2013 16:30:59 GMT -8 Wormopolis said:

in order to save data that is attached to a specific member, that everyone can see, you have to use a super key. all the other keys are regular keys. the karma plugin already uses a super-key - which is why I suggested a collaboration with shorty to mod his code to track 3 different totals instead of just one.

I dont think this request is impossible. I can easily modify my post critique code to only work after OP approves a replier. I can even make my code modify the values of shorty's code if he is willing to mod in a 3 object tracking.

I am steering away from writing something completely new that mimics what 2 plugins already have the potential to do. seems like a better use of time then writing something from scratch that has HAS to use 2 keys. if you make a plugin that uses 2 keys, it ALWAYS uses 2 keys, even if you dont need the functionality of the second key. in other words, you make a feedback system that does the post tracking part, but someone doesnt want the tracking to exist on the members profile. they can option for it to not display, but they still ate the cost of 2 keys. essentially they wasted a super key.

packages for buying more keys, I believe, is available in the admin panel.

if Shorty wants to collaborate, im all for it.

I personally do not want to do this because I have just really busy with life and such. But Wormo I can give you an editable version of the karma plugin if you want, and then you can make the necessary edits.