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Post by Pebble on Apr 16, 2014 14:31:22 GMT -8
I don't want to get involved in a discussion about it ( but I guess by posting I am! ) It does say in the 1st post that this is aimed towards businesses and other organizations. This says to me that it is there for businesses and other organizations that will have a financial income or maybe want to have their own advertising. For an everyday forum or RPG site, why not make some suggestions as to what you would like to see. Knocking these plans seems a little pointless as they are not aimed at everyday proboard forums etc. Personally , I think it's good to see Proboards moving forward and expanding into another market.
Just my opinion of course!
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Post by Former Member on Apr 16, 2014 14:36:57 GMT -8
I was really excited to get this service, but after reading about the costs for the pageviews killed my interest in doing so. I was really looking forward to lifting the restrictions on PG-13 (and having some of the other neat features to). I'll sadly have to pass on this service unfortunately
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Post by User 180565 is taking donation on Apr 16, 2014 14:41:49 GMT -8
I don't want to get involved in a discussion about it ( but I guess by posting I am! ) It does say in the 1st post that this is aimed towards businesses and other organizations. This says to me that it is there for businesses and other organizations that will have a financial income or maybe want to have their own advertising. For an everyday forum or RPG site, why not make some suggestions as to what you would like to see. Knocking these plans seems a little pointless as they are not aimed at everyday proboard forums etc. Personally , I think it's good to see Proboards moving forward and expanding into another market. Just my opinion of course! I think the main problem is the fact that people are so use to seeing proboards offering free/cheap service and are now disappointed because of it. But hey I'm cool with it. I highly doubt that many organizations and businesses will even care about a pg-13 rule or not. Sorry if this has been answered but since the pg-13 rule is being lifted does this mean that things such as porn, obscene material hateful organizations will be tolerated on this service?
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Post by elli on Apr 16, 2014 14:52:02 GMT -8
Seems like a fair pricing structure imo. I think what some of you guys are missing is that this product is targeted at businesses, which not only have the revenue available to spend per page view past a set amount, but are also likely to run their own ads to offset costs. This service was not built so you crazy kids could have PG-13+ content without violating TOS, although that is certainly a perk — if you're willing and/or able to pay for it. Again, fair.
Take Vanilla Forums, for example. Their comparable mid-tier plan with 300k included pageviews is twice as much as PB's 250k. The next comparable tier? $599/mo for only 1M page views; PB is offering 1.25M at 1/4 the cost. It's safe to say that this is very competitive pricing on ProBoard's part, and overall a good deal for what's being offered.
So if your only stipulation is the PG-13+ content feature, you're probably better off sticking with the free service.
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Post by VS Admin on Apr 16, 2014 14:56:25 GMT -8
I'm not too happy with the price due to ad free but I do understand why it is necessary. Because as you said you cannot run normal ads and it had to be made up somehow. What I mainly want to know is about plugins. I'm at work so I can't check it out yet but I know my site has like 40 plugins that I have paid quite a bit for in terms of getting keys. Am I going to have to pay extra in some way for plugins? Because I already paid and will not be doing so again. We offer unlimited plugin keys with each plan. Each plan offers a different amount of plugin space, and you can increase that space for a small fee. If you purchased plugin space from ProBoards before transferring, we may be able to work directly with you on some type of discount. I don't want to get involved in a discussion about it ( but I guess by posting I am! ) It does say in the 1st post that this is aimed towards businesses and other organizations. This says to me that it is there for businesses and other organizations that will have a financial income or maybe want to have their own advertising. For an everyday forum or RPG site, why not make some suggestions as to what you would like to see. Knocking these plans seems a little pointless as they are not aimed at everyday proboard forums etc. Personally , I think it's good to see Proboards moving forward and expanding into another market. Just my opinion of course! I think the main problem is the fact that people are so use to seeing proboards offering free/cheap service and are now disappointed because of it. But hey I'm cool with it. I highly doubt that many organizations and businesses will even care about a pg-13 rule or not. Sorry if this has been answered but since the pg-13 rule is being lifted does this mean that things such as porn, obscene material hateful organizations will be tolerated on this service? We respect freedom of speech, being a forum service there are people of many different views. However, that does not mean that we will necessarily allow any website to be hosted with us. We still do have a Terms of Service (forums.net/tos) that applies, and we have the right to terminate service if we so choose. As Martin Niemöller said: In regards to adult content, it is permitted on this new service as long as it is legal.
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Post by Michael on Apr 16, 2014 14:57:45 GMT -8
Seems like a fair pricing structure imo. I think what some of you guys are missing is that this product is targeted at businesses, which not only have the revenue available to spend per page view past a set amount, but are also likely to run their own ads to offset costs. This service was not built so you crazy kids could have PG-13+ content without violating TOS, although that is certainly a perk — if you're willing and/or able to pay for it. Again, fair. Take Vanilla Forums, for example. Their comparable mid-tier plan with 300k included pageviews is twice as much as PB's 250k. The next comparable tier? $599/mo for only 1M page views; PB is offering 1.25M at 1/4 the cost. It's safe to say that this is very competitive pricing on ProBoard's part, and overall a good deal for what's being offered. So if your only stipulation is the PG-13+ content feature, you're probably better off sticking with the free service. Wow you just saved me from having to write anything at all! Yes x100 to everything you said. We are aimed at businesses and our pricing structure was set up to be better than everyone else who offers similar services. (I'm proud to say that I think we did that!) Our big pluses (Insight Forwarding and Single Sign On) are really advantageous for companies but wouldn't matter very much at all to the average PB customer.
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Post by VS Admin on Apr 16, 2014 14:59:13 GMT -8
Seems like a fair pricing structure imo. I think what some of you guys are missing is that this product is targeted at businesses, which not only have the revenue available to spend per page view past a set amount, but are also likely to run their own ads to offset costs. This service was not built so you crazy kids could have PG-13+ content without violating TOS, although that is certainly a perk — if you're willing and/or able to pay for it. Again, fair. Take Vanilla Forums, for example. Their comparable mid-tier plan with 300k included pageviews is twice as much as PB's 250k. The next comparable tier? $599/mo for only 1M page views; PB is offering 1.25M at 1/4 the cost. It's safe to say that this is very competitive pricing on ProBoard's part, and overall a good deal for what's being offered. So if your only stipulation is the PG-13+ content feature, you're probably better off sticking with the free service. I think that Vanilla Forums is a great example when you want to price compare. Their plans start at $99 for 100k pageviews where we give you the same thing (and way more features!) for $17.99, more than 5x cheaper. We're actually on the low end price wise, and we offer more features and more security. Many of our new features (e.g. InSite Forwarding™) are things businesses or professional websites will care more about, but the fact that we have them and still offer the service at such a fantastic price I think positions us really well in the market.
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Post by moonbeam on Apr 16, 2014 15:06:06 GMT -8
We will definitely have some discussions on our end. Obviously if there are things that our customers want that we are not currently providing, we will explore what our options are. Definitely appreciate everyone's input, as always. After comparing what it would cost just to have ad free, I do agree the cost is fair. I just don't want all the rest of the stuff. If I'm going to be paying, I'd rather have the option to pay only for the non pg13/ad free portion as an upgrade. That's just me, and I appreciate that you're willing to at least consider the idea. That said, I do also understand that it's not that easy, because your branding would still be on the forum in that situation, so you'd have to have something in place in case someone didn't pay the ad free for a month but had non pg13 content.
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Post by User 180565 is taking donation on Apr 16, 2014 15:24:24 GMT -8
I'm not too happy with the price due to ad free but I do understand why it is necessary. Because as you said you cannot run normal ads and it had to be made up somehow. What I mainly want to know is about plugins. I'm at work so I can't check it out yet but I know my site has like 40 plugins that I have paid quite a bit for in terms of getting keys. Am I going to have to pay extra in some way for plugins? Because I already paid and will not be doing so again. We offer unlimited plugin keys with each plan. Each plan offers a different amount of plugin space, and you can increase that space for a small fee. If you purchased plugin space from ProBoards before transferring, we may be able to work directly with you on some type of discount. I think the main problem is the fact that people are so use to seeing proboards offering free/cheap service and are now disappointed because of it. But hey I'm cool with it. I highly doubt that many organizations and businesses will even care about a pg-13 rule or not. Sorry if this has been answered but since the pg-13 rule is being lifted does this mean that things such as porn, obscene material hateful organizations will be tolerated on this service? We respect freedom of speech, being a forum service there are people of many different views. However, that does not mean that we will necessarily allow any website to be hosted with us. We still do have a Terms of Service (forums.net/tos) that applies, and we have the right to terminate service if we so choose. As Martin Niemöller said: In regards to adult content, it is permitted on this new service as long as it is legal. Sounds fair, so things such as illegal content/piracy will still be against the tos.
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Post by VS Admin on Apr 16, 2014 15:27:54 GMT -8
Of course.
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Post by moonbeam on Apr 16, 2014 15:43:36 GMT -8
I don't think anyone else has asked this yet, but what if a forum did migrate, agreed to a 6 month contract, then decided not to continue at the end of that time?
What happens to the original forum?
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Post by Michael on Apr 16, 2014 15:45:12 GMT -8
I don't think anyone else has asked this yet, but what if a forum did migrate, and agreed to a 6 month contract, then decided not to continue at the end of that time?
What happens to the original forum?
If they didn't wish to continue the service the forum would be closed just like any other customer. The original forum was transferred, so it no longer exists.
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Post by Baller95 on Apr 16, 2014 16:00:33 GMT -8
I don't think anyone else has asked this yet, but what if a forum did migrate, and agreed to a 6 month contract, then decided not to continue at the end of that time?
What happens to the original forum?
If they didn't wish to continue the service the forum would be closed just like any other customer. The original forum was transferred, so it no longer exists. Could it be transferred back to a free ProBoards forum? Could the database be exported to use with other forum softwares?
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Post by Michael on Apr 16, 2014 16:02:22 GMT -8
If they didn't wish to continue the service the forum would be closed just like any other customer. The original forum was transferred, so it no longer exists. Could it be transferred back to a free ProBoards forum? Could the database be exported to use with other forum softwares? That I don't have an answer to, Pat will probably respond shortly with an answer for you! (I would guess so though?) Question #2: Yes.
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Post by Tim Camara on Apr 16, 2014 16:24:36 GMT -8
Could it be transferred back to a free ProBoards forum? Could the database be exported to use with other forum softwares? No, once transferred from ProBoards, a forum may not be transferred back. However, you would be able to export your database. edit: Please see Pat's post on the next page.
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