PMs marked as seen / read

[Kami]

Hi,

I know this has been touched on before as a difficulty since PMs can now have multiple participants, but is there ANY way that at least staff members can tell when a PM has been opened? Since I run an RP forum, I use the PM system to let applicants know there are problems with their character profile. I have zero way of telling if that user has read that notice, and it's difficult to determine the next course of action if their profile is edited in a manner inconsistent with what I have instructed.

Ideally a feature request if it isn't already, but I'm willing to temporarily go the plugin route as well.

[Ulises]

Hi.

There is already a plugin for it though I'm not sure if you meant something else (since I see that you liked the first post)? support.proboards.com/thread/559124/

I'll mark it as a feature request, however.

[Kami]

Feb 18, 2017 10:38:44 GMT -8 Ulises said:

Hi.

There is already a plugin for it though I'm not sure if you meant something else (since I see that you liked the first post)? support.proboards.com/thread/559124/

I'll mark it as a feature request, however.

Yeah that plugin *almost* does what I need except I don't need it to be for all people.

Mar 30, 2016 16:12:13 GMT -8 P̌̓aͧś̀t̀u͒le͆o͂2̀3̃̓ said:

Mar 30, 2016 12:48:42 GMT -8 ₪» ⅀ ƪ Ƒ «₪ said:

Quick question-- for "staff only," does it mean only staff will receive "PM read" receipts but they get it from all users, or does it mean only staff get the receipts but they only get the read receipts from other staff? I'm a bit confused on the wording in the plugin =)

Basically it only applies to staff. Plugin won't run at all for users.
Turns it into a staff keeping track plugin that doesn't bother users with pointless popups. My favorite option.

This particular comment is what is preventing me from using the plugin. OP won't update til v6 to allow for only messages from staff to generate the read receipt and I need it a bit sooner than indefinitely ;P

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Feb 18, 2017 11:00:12 GMT -8 Kami said:

Feb 18, 2017 10:38:44 GMT -8 Ulises said:

Hi.

There is already a plugin for it though I'm not sure if you meant something else (since I see that you liked the first post)? support.proboards.com/thread/559124/

I'll mark it as a feature request, however.

Yeah that plugin *almost* does what I need except I don't need it to be for all people.

Mar 30, 2016 16:12:13 GMT -8 P̌̓aͧś̀t̀u͒le͆o͂2̀3̃̓ said:

Basically it only applies to staff. Plugin won't run at all for users.
Turns it into a staff keeping track plugin that doesn't bother users with pointless popups. My favorite option.

This particular comment is what is preventing me from using the plugin. OP won't update til v6 to allow for only messages from staff to generate the read receipt and I need it a bit sooner than indefinitely ;P

Well I didn't expect it to take 2 years
I just re-looked at the plugin and figured the reason I didn't add it during that time was because of the fact that determining whether the person you are messaging is an admin would be near impossible to do for themed forums. That would be unless I added that information to the key after the admin had read it. Then I would have to rewrite whether or not I wanted it displayed on every spot I have it showing based on the person who is logged in. And then users might get confused on why they are being tracked with messages when there are no indications where they can see they are being tracked and there is no reason for being tracked because there are no admins in the conversation. So you would be saving information for no reason. So the likely change would be that all participants have been recognized as "non-admin" and the popups would stop. Which would take more time. Seeing how complicated this system already is, I still say I don't wish to put that much time into it for such a small feature. 
I did re-visit the possibility for you, however Wayyy too much work.
Staff views users read receipts, users see staff read receipts.
That does accomplish what you need, however it does give users more power than they need I suppose in some cases.
I mean the whole point is Accountability right? I like knowing that staff are ignoring me as much as users ignoring staff.

[Kami]

Well my purpose is specifically for moderation: I run an RP forum so the only PMs that need to be marked as read are the ones sent by staff in regards to applications and disciplinary actions. I don't much care if someone ignores a PM asking to RP with them or saying hello, but a read receipt does help the staff determine if the person who Yet Again posted an application contrary to our requirements actually read the message we sent regarding what was wrong the first time so we can determine if we need to contact them in another manner or if they're blatantly disregarding what we have said.

I do however appreciate you looking into this for me! I did want to say that i've decided on another method for this (:

[Chris]

One cheap and dirty way would be to borrow a tactic from the spammer handbook and embed one of those old style website counter images in the PM (or perhaps a 1x1 beacon), once it is read the server stats can be used to confirm receipt

[Kami]

Feb 24, 2017 20:34:10 GMT -8 Chris said:

One cheap and dirty way would be to borrow a tactic from the spammer handbook and embed one of those old style website counter images in the PM (or perhaps a 1x1 beacon), once it is read the server stats can be used to confirm receipt

CLEVER :0 I'll give that a thought for these PMs, honestly, I'm getting a little tired of repeating myself on the off chance they haven't read them.

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Feb 24, 2017 20:34:10 GMT -8 Chris said:

One cheap and dirty way would be to borrow a tactic from the spammer handbook and embed one of those old style website counter images in the PM (or perhaps a 1x1 beacon), once it is read the server stats can be used to confirm receipt

You could have solved the worlds crisis without a plugin and now you speak up? Great idea though.