Congress to vote to legalize marijuana

[T.C.]

No one should ever be sent to prison for using drugs. Selling drugs that are highly addictive and damaging to society is a different story. Marijuana should have been legalized just as alcohol was.

I don't advocate using drugs but having worked in the Drug and Alcohol Field I've seen 1st hand the hardships of having a criminal record follow you forever for being arrested for drug related crimes. We should have invested all the money spent on Prisons on Mental Health facilities and Treatment Facilities.

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Mar 1, 2020 16:23:09 GMT -8 T.C. said:

No one should ever be sent to prison for using drugs. Selling drugs that are highly addictive and damaging to society is a different story. Marijuana should have been legalized just as alcohol was.

I don't advocate using drugs but having worked in the Drug and Alcohol Field I've seen 1st hand the hardships of having a criminal record follow you forever for being arrested for drug related crimes. We should have invested all the money spent on Prisons on Mental Health facilities and Treatment Facilities.

At what point can you classify a plant as a drug? Is nicotine still a drug because it comes from a plant? Are poppy seeds a drug because codeine and morphine can be detected from a drug test? For a while the store I worked in had them hidden behind customer service which is sad imo.

If you ask me chemical infused drugs should be classified as illegal. If it comes fresh from the ground it should be possible. But I'm not an expert on how drugs such as cocaine is produced even though most movies give you a good idea of it.

However you would think so ce it's legal where the freaking president lives it would be taxed like alcohol and cigarettes.

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Feb 29, 2020 21:20:48 GMT -8 endo said:

Make it legal and tax it, just like tobacco and alcohol. Enforce the same rules as alcohol and let the people that use it pay the taxes for it.
I don't partake myself, not my thing. Makes me really paranoid. But, I have a lot of friends that do, and every one of them would be willing to pay taxes on it if it were sold legally and all they had to do was go to a convenience store to get it.

Taxes on tobacco are at absurdly high levels. I would hope they hold off on reaching such high rates on cannabis, at least until the legal supply chain can meet demand and the illegal pipeline dries up.

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Mar 2, 2020 9:23:33 GMT -8 Retread said:

Feb 29, 2020 21:20:48 GMT -8 endo said:

Make it legal and tax it, just like tobacco and alcohol. Enforce the same rules as alcohol and let the people that use it pay the taxes for it.
I don't partake myself, not my thing. Makes me really paranoid. But, I have a lot of friends that do, and every one of them would be willing to pay taxes on it if it were sold legally and all they had to do was go to a convenience store to get it.

Taxes on tobacco are at absurdly high levels. I would hope they hold off on reaching such high rates on cannabis, at least until the legal supply chain can meet demand and the illegal pipeline dries up.

Who said to tax it at the same levels? I said tax it like they do alcohol and tobacco, which is very general. Just implying that it be taxed as well.

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Mar 2, 2020 15:06:27 GMT -8 endo said:

Mar 2, 2020 9:23:33 GMT -8 Retread said:

Taxes on tobacco are at absurdly high levels. I would hope they hold off on reaching such high rates on cannabis, at least until the legal supply chain can meet demand and the illegal pipeline dries up.

Who said to tax it at the same levels? I said tax it like they do alcohol and tobacco, which is very general. Just implying that it be taxed as well.

Why shouldn't it be taxed at the same rate as tobacco?

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Mar 2, 2020 15:06:27 GMT -8 endo said:

Mar 2, 2020 9:23:33 GMT -8 Retread said:

Taxes on tobacco are at absurdly high levels. I would hope they hold off on reaching such high rates on cannabis, at least until the legal supply chain can meet demand and the illegal pipeline dries up.

Who said to tax it at the same levels? I said tax it like they do alcohol and tobacco, which is very general. Just implying that it be taxed as well.

No one said to tax it at the same level as tobacco (until 📚 Dianne 📚 just now chimed in). I just wanted to point out doing so would be a particularly bad idea, at least at the onset.

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Mar 3, 2020 6:23:23 GMT -8 Retread said:

Mar 2, 2020 15:06:27 GMT -8 endo said:

Who said to tax it at the same levels? I said tax it like they do alcohol and tobacco, which is very general. Just implying that it be taxed as well.

No one said to tax it at the same level as tobacco (until 📚 Dianne 📚 just now chimed in). I just wanted to point out doing so would be a particularly bad idea, at least at the onset.

Why, exactly would it be such a bad idea at he onset?  I mean cigarettes used to be inexpensive and not taxed very highly , then more and more people got hooked - taxes went up, then they are deemed dangerous-taxes raise even higher. 



 This has nothing to do with the initial question -but I wonder if smoking pot in public will be shunned and against most states laws, like tobacco is.

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Mar 3, 2020 9:23:44 GMT -8 📚 Dianne 📚 said:

Why, exactly would it be such a bad idea at he onset?  I mean cigarettes used to be inexpensive and not taxed very highly , then more and more people got hooked - taxes went up, then they are deemed dangerous-taxes raise even higher. 

Reason it out. There's a significant cost in starting a legal operation. From what I've read the application for a license alone is upwards of five grand. Plus there's the cost of bricks and mortar, etc. A business needs to price their product such that they absorb the fixed costs and still make a profit.

The illegal pipeline doesn't have any of those costs, although they do charge a premium to make it worth the risk of getting caught.

If the government taxes the bejeezus out of pot the way they do to tobacco, the cost of legal products to the consumer will be greater than they can currently buy the same product from illegal suppliers.

Mar 3, 2020 9:23:44 GMT -8 📚 Dianne 📚 said:

This has nothing to do with the initial question -but I wonder if smoking pot in public will be shunned and against most states laws, like tobacco is.

You wonder? I have no doubt places where pot can be smoked will be at least as restrictive as tobacco, if not more so.

[bennie1]

Interesting how this gets so heated in the usa.

[Deckard]

Living in Washington state and also not only working in the cannabis industry but as a user for the late stage lung cancer I am battling I can say with a degree of certainty that the legalization of marijuana has had many positive impacts on my home and way of life.

With the increased tax revenue our roads and bridges are being repaired and are some of the best kept in the country, our Education system has seen a massive increase statewide and the public services such as the fire department and police departments have seen their budgets increase significantly.

On the other hand the housing market is ballooning and it's almost impossible to keep up with the rent, you also see a ton of marijuana related trash on the sides of the road especially in Tacoma where there are almost as many recreational pot shops as there are fast food restaurants. But those honestly are minor inconveniences when you take into account the incarceration, teen and child use, and suicide numbers are all at record lows.

During this now almost decade that it has been legal here the myths about it leading to worse crimes are just that myths. What really happens when you legalise is you create a massive amount of jobs that stimulate the economy and make everyone better off as a whole all while keeping otherwise innocent people out of jail and keep it out of the hands of kids while killing the cash flow to gangs and cartels and keeping the money in the community where it belongs.

[¡Lance!]

Nov 17, 2019 22:44:24 GMT -8 Bugme said:

Marijuana is a proven gateway drug. It was for me and nearly destroyed me when I was young. So no, I am not for across the board legalization.

 
My brother, who was a world boss level pothead said it best. Marijuana doesn't do anything, the people who smoke it just tend to generally have their true self amplified. If a person was an a-hole before marijuana in any form then that person is likely to be even more of an a-hole. If you lack self control and easily give in to impulses before marijuana; that problem is likely to exhasterbate itself. 

We need to stop blaming the plant and actually expect adults to be responsible for themselves and their actions much like they're expected to with Alcohol and medication. All that being said I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

[Bugme]

Apr 30, 2021 14:39:07 GMT -8 ¡Lance! said:

Nov 17, 2019 22:44:24 GMT -8 Bugme said:

Marijuana is a proven gateway drug. It was for me and nearly destroyed me when I was young. So no, I am not for across the board legalization.

 
My brother, who was a world boss level pothead said it best. Marijuana doesn't do anything, the people who smoke it just tend to generally have their true self amplified. If a person was an a-hole before marijuana in any form then that person is likely to be even more of an a-hole. If you lack self control and easily give in to impulses before marijuana; that problem is likely to exhasterbate itself. 

We need to stop blaming the plant and actually expect adults to be responsible for themselves and their actions much like they're expected to with Alcohol and medication. All that being said I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

Ultimately yes, it is on the person to be an adult and stay away from those things which Jekyll and Hyde their personality. That said, it is still a scientifically proven gateway drug just like a teenager doing wine usually leads something harder and eventually alcoholism. Just thoughts.

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May 2, 2021 14:18:00 GMT -8 Bugme said:

Apr 30, 2021 14:39:07 GMT -8 ¡Lance! said:

 
My brother, who was a world boss level pothead said it best. Marijuana doesn't do anything, the people who smoke it just tend to generally have their true self amplified. If a person was an a-hole before marijuana in any form then that person is likely to be even more of an a-hole. If you lack self control and easily give in to impulses before marijuana; that problem is likely to exhasterbate itself. 

We need to stop blaming the plant and actually expect adults to be responsible for themselves and their actions much like they're expected to with Alcohol and medication. All that being said I'm sorry you had such a bad experience.

Ultimately yes, it is on the person to be an adult and stay away from those things which Jekyll and Hyde their personality. That said, it is still a scientifically proven gateway drug just like a teenager doing wine usually leads something harder and eventually alcoholism. Just thoughts.

Yeah weed has scientifically been proven to make America fat and lazy and we wouldn't want that to happen to Americans.

[Bugme]

May 2, 2021 14:42:54 GMT -8 User 180565 is taking donation said:

May 2, 2021 14:18:00 GMT -8 Bugme said:

Ultimately yes, it is on the person to be an adult and stay away from those things which Jekyll and Hyde their personality. That said, it is still a scientifically proven gateway drug just like a teenager doing wine usually leads something harder and eventually alcoholism. Just thoughts.

Yeah weed has scientifically been proven to make America fat and lazy and we wouldn't want that to happen to Americans.

No, Doritos has already done that.😀

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May 2, 2021 17:53:08 GMT -8 Bugme said:

May 2, 2021 14:42:54 GMT -8 User 180565 is taking donation said:

Yeah weed has scientifically been proven to make America fat and lazy and we wouldn't want that to happen to Americans.

No, Doritos has already done that.😀

Honestly though it's going as medicinal meaning prescription base. I'd rather see people enjoying a bit of weed instead of being addicted to benzos which have higher side effects of addiction and possible crime rates of buying them through a drug dealer.

The medical industry is flawed imo most prescribed anti depressants are placeabos then when a doctor removes them it may make them feel even worse thinking they need them. There haven't really been that many scientific studies mostly because it is illegal in short terms.

If it's so bad why are states opening their eyes to legalizknf and decriminalizing it more and more across the country. It's not as black and white as let's pop in a bob marley track and go to mars there are serious conditions where weed has relaxed people. I have high GAD disorders blood pressure has been known to bolt over to 160bpm even over the smallest of events.

I'll admit I was a bit of a stoner in my teen years which was like 15 years ago but it has helped me relax tremendously.