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Post by dragonfli on Jul 9, 2020 5:22:56 GMT -8
Also, what about macy's annual thanksgiving parade? Holidays wouldn't be the same w/o them.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 9, 2020 5:59:45 GMT -8
I could see them not happening, although part of that will depend on the pressure being put on local governments and such for a "return to normal." We will need to see where cases are and how fast they are spiking. Additionally, it will depend on economic recovery and whatever else we might face. Plus, if there are no sponsors (or not enough), most events will have to close down and wait for next year to try and rebound.
I am sure we will see some, but I am not certain we will see the same extravaganza that we are used to seeing.
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Post by Joshua Farrell on Jul 9, 2020 10:39:06 GMT -8
A large number of events in my town specifically got cancelled, due to a sudden spike in cases. Best guess, is that if things look like they are slowly returning back to normal, they might do thanksgiving parades and the like.
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Post by Inkjet on Jul 9, 2020 15:34:07 GMT -8
I can tell you as some one who works in the production industry with no work until probably 2022, that no, parades will more than likely not happen for the foreseeable future. They’ll hold out as long as they can, but I’d expect a cancellation notice by September or October if they haven’t already made it privately.
We saw the whole country flip out over our numbers now and cancel the 4th July everywhere. If there’s a promised “second wave” this fall/winter, then there will be nothing. Especially because there’s no liability protection for the event and we live in a very sue happy America. Why take the risk?
It’s going to take a vaccine to comfort those nervous about the virus and even then, it’ll be awhile to gain the public’s full trust.
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Post by daniel on Jul 9, 2020 17:54:00 GMT -8
Chances are good that there will be a vaccine or even several competing vaccines in the 4th quarter. Companies and governments everywhere are throwing unprecedented resources at the problem.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 10, 2020 5:24:40 GMT -8
Chances are good that there will be a vaccine or even several competing vaccines in the 4th quarter. Companies and governments everywhere are throwing unprecedented resources at the problem. Possible, but I agree with Inkjet that it's likely to be a year or more. Just because there is a vaccine announced doesn't mean that there has been time to vet it properly, etc. I think as cases continue to spike as well as deaths, people will be more likely to wait until there is a better correlation of success on a vaccine rather than just having one.
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Post by Retread on Jul 10, 2020 7:22:59 GMT -8
time to vet it properly, etc. Indeed! The typical 'gestation' time for a vaccine is 6~10 years. While throwing money at the problem can reduce much of the time required, the testing phases can't really be fast-tracked. Dr Fauci is 'cautiously optimistic' a vaccine could be made available to the public by the end of the calendar year or early in 2021. I read that as being a best-case-scenario. Even if it takes until mid-year 2021, I would consider that as being an unprecedented success of human accomplishment, worthy of great admiration. Meanwhile (in my humble opinion), the priority should be to find ways to safely engage in business and education to keep our economy strong. Frivolities such as parades and huge social gatherings which provide unnecessary opportunities for the virus to spread are in no way part of that priority. JMO. Holidays wouldn't be the same w/o them. We can live without them.
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Post by Shady on Jul 11, 2020 2:13:06 GMT -8
A vaccine isn’t guaranteed at all, unfortunately. Plenty of viruses, including the coronavirus that can cause common cold, have never had a successful vaccine found. I doubt that any mass gatherings will be happening this winter. The best option is that people comply with social distancing, reducing infection rates, and allowing the virus to be controlled with the public health management of localised outbreaks. “Test and trace”, as they’re calling it in the UK. Hopefully at some point next year it’ll seem safer to allow events like those, but if organisers can find ways to provide events with social distancing measures, they’d be able to start up sooner.
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Post by Retread on Jul 11, 2020 8:01:20 GMT -8
A vaccine isn’t guaranteed at all, unfortunately. While that's true, I wouldn't say creating a vaccine for COVID-19 is unlikely. There are "well over 200" strains of the 'common cold'. Unless a vaccine could be created that was effective for all of them, it wouldn't make economic sense to target just a few of them. Also, the common cold is rarely fatal, so the importance of having a vaccine for that is of very low priority.
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Post by Leaf on Jul 12, 2020 20:45:22 GMT -8
I hope you are aware that online shopping is still a thing and given how barbaric U.S. citizens can be. I have a feeling that nobody is going to let some virus stop them from getting into fights over material goods like new Xbox gaming systems or television sets for the family. I'm intrigued about how the stores are going to handle Black Friday this year with the ongoing pandemic since most measures taken are already taken. I suppose the stores could just close for the day which essentially means Black Friday has officially been cancelled. I doubt that since then they will miss out on the money they make from people trampling over people who want to spend their stimulus money. 2020 is definitely a year of metamorphosis.
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Post by Shady on Jul 12, 2020 22:26:48 GMT -8
A vaccine isn’t guaranteed at all, unfortunately. While that's true, I wouldn't say creating a vaccine for COVID-19 is unlikely. There are "well over 200" strains of the 'common cold'. Unless a vaccine could be created that was effective for all of them, it wouldn't make economic sense to target just a few of them. Also, the common cold is rarely fatal, so the importance of having a vaccine for that is of very low priority. Maybe HIV would be a better example than the common cold. I’m not saying it’s unlikely, just not guaranteed.
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Post by Retread on Jul 13, 2020 5:58:21 GMT -8
Maybe HIV would be a better example than the common cold. In some ways a better example. In other ways worse. HIV is a lentivirus and has a long incubation period also, the human body doesn't naturally create antibodies for HIV, so it's chronic. But if you're focused on citing an example of where we had very strong motivation to find a vaccine but for 40 years have so far been unsuccessful, this is definitely one. Patients who have survived COVID-19 infection have done so because they were able to produce antibodies before the virus caused fatality due to acute respiratory distress. Being able to trigger the body to quickly create these antibodies in sufficient numbers will be the key to (possibly) developing a vaccine.
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Post by Shady on Jul 13, 2020 9:19:10 GMT -8
Maybe HIV would be a better example than the common cold. In some ways a better example. In other ways worse. HIV is a lentivirus and has a long incubation period also, the human body doesn't naturally create antibodies for HIV, so it's chronic. But if you're focused on citing an example of where we had very strong motivation to find a vaccine but for 40 years have so far been unsuccessful, this is definitely one. Patients who have survived COVID-19 infection have done so because they were able to produce antibodies before the virus caused fatality due to acute respiratory distress. Being able to trigger the body to quickly create these antibodies in sufficient numbers will be the key to (possibly) developing a vaccine. My “focus” was giving a simple example those without a background in virology could relate to. I work in microbiology/virology so don’t really need it explaining to me. There isn’t really enough evidence yet on the role antibody production plays in immunity, but the latest I’ve read is that antibody levels are dropping off pretty quickly anyway. Obviously I hope someone does find a successful vaccine soon and I’m not being pessimistic, but we also can’t pin all of our hopes on it.
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Post by Inkjet on Jul 15, 2020 10:20:36 GMT -8
I was a little behind on my prediction, but the 2021 Rose parade just canceled. Expect others to follow shortly.
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Post by Pearson on Jul 15, 2020 10:30:24 GMT -8
No, not at that point, maybe next year if there is a vaccine. Otherwise, stay home and get fat, dumb, and happy. Eat a pie! This year blows, 2020 cancelled!
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