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Post by Timewarp on Jun 26, 2005 7:56:39 GMT -8
It should be allowed, but I doubt that it is legal. Sure you paid for it, but from the companies' point of view, now they make more money off of you.
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Echo - boo-jah o.o;
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Post by Echo - boo-jah o.o; on Jun 26, 2005 8:15:42 GMT -8
I would say it is illegal, as it is your responsibilty if you lose or break it, if it's stolen well tough no insurance for games.
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Post by registrar on Jun 26, 2005 8:17:53 GMT -8
Yes you two, I know that it's illegal but do you really think I care? *licks sixxy* You might care if you got a call from the police *pokes bonjy* And how might the police find out? The police here wouldn't care.
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Dalai Llama Of Proboards
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MarvinRules
Be Yourself, Everybody else is taken.
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Post by MarvinRules on Jun 26, 2005 8:22:12 GMT -8
You might care if you got a call from the police *pokes bonjy* And how might the police find out? The police here wouldn't care. And this has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand! We are discussing if it is LEGAL not if you can get away with it. If all you want to do is brag about how you break the law and do not get cought then start a different thread. Just be warned promoting illegal activity is agenst the TOS of proboards.
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Fađu
Fadu has 4 letters! So does kill! Conspiracy!
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Post by Fađu on Jun 26, 2005 8:59:24 GMT -8
thats odd, whenever i asked that same question about my photoshop that i had to reinstall only my disc was missing, and my friend had the same version, i got flamed and called a pirate it was the same situation as you mentioned, ben
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Matej
This is my status!
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Post by Matej on Jun 26, 2005 9:05:24 GMT -8
It's illegal in the UK to make backup copies. I know that much. Don't know if its illegal anywhere else though.
You can make a backup from what I've heard o.o
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Post by Oranjy on Jun 26, 2005 9:06:26 GMT -8
It's illegal in the UK to make backup copies. I know that much. Don't know if its illegal anywhere else though. You can make a backup from what I've heard o.o Never heard that before ..time to investigate... .
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MarvinRules
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Post by MarvinRules on Jun 26, 2005 9:26:12 GMT -8
It's illegal in the UK to make backup copies. I know that much. Don't know if its illegal anywhere else though. You can make a backup from what I've heard o.o I know some software does not allow you to make backups based on the user agreement. And some areas (Coutries, states) also do not allow you to make backup copies. And as I stated before replacement CD's are available from most publishers for a minor fee.
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Post by registrar on Jun 26, 2005 9:32:55 GMT -8
[quote author=marvinrules board=pbgt thread=1119799032 post=1119802932
Just be warned promoting illegal activity is agenst the TOS of proboards.[/quote]
Yep sure, I know that. I know all about it.
You started the whole "you made a copy of a game for someone, that's illegal!11!1" conversation, so it's your fault we even were talking about me doing it and not getting caught.
Getting caught..yup.. I didn't get caught when I joined here and I was 11 even though that wasn't very legal.
No one cares if you use someone else's CD or if you make a copy of a game. The gaming companies you would say do care. But just how many of them make millions of dolars from their games? Do they really need that extar $50 from one person?
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Post by Ben Woodruff on Jun 26, 2005 12:49:52 GMT -8
Alright, I think I already know the answer to this, but I want to see what others think/know anyway. The situation: Billy and Johnny both own perfectly legal copies of game X. For whatever reason, Billy's CD that came with game X is lost/stolen/broken/whatever, and he obviously can't use it anymore. He still has everything else that came with game X though (ie, CD key, game manual, box, etc). Can he use Johnny's CD, legally, if he uses his CD key still? Would this be considered piracy? I wouldn't think this would be illegal, as they both paid for the game. Neither of them is getting something they didn't pay for. Your opinion? No, most games have available (Via Support) a small disk replacement fee. (Usually around $10.00 and that uncludes shipping) And most game developers/publishers conisder the CD itself to be the legal proof of ownership... Now you might, might get away with that if you still had the original CD but it was damaged. Even then you would be using a copy of someone else's CD. Now if you had made a copy of your original CD then it would be alright. You are alowed to make 1 backup copy of your CD for just this sort of reason. If you do not have a backup of your CD then your only leal option is to contact the game publisher and get a replacement CD from them. Sure you can still use it. Some games don't require a CD though, and some have downloadable no-cd patches. Those patches are illegal. They are modifying the game to bypass a security feature. Atari actually releases no-CD patches for every version of Unreal after the next version comes out (ie, when Unreal 2004 came out, they released one for 2003). And I guess I shouldn't have tried to use a non-real example, because it's a different situation. The way it really happened: My friend Matt bought a computer from us, and he lost his Windows CD (or someone stole it). Now he needs to reinstall Windows. What law/agreement with Microsoft says I can't let him borrow my CD? Microsoft has VLK products too, where they only send you one CD for like 500 licences and it's cheaper that way. So why would they care in this case? (besides the obvious fact that they will do ANYTHING to make money)
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Zoni
I am awesome.
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Post by Zoni on Jun 26, 2005 12:51:34 GMT -8
it's HIS key, so it's legal.
By the way: downloading is legal as long as you don't share (as in allow downloads) or provide music/software (with or without monetary gain).
According to my knowledge of the anti-piracy act.
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MarvinRules
Be Yourself, Everybody else is taken.
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Post by MarvinRules on Jun 26, 2005 12:54:10 GMT -8
Atari actually releases no-CD patches for every version of Unreal after the next version comes out (ie, when Unreal 2004 came out, they released one for 2003). Most No-CD patches are not made or released by the game maker. Of course if the Game maker releases it, the it is legal. They can do whatever they want with their games. LOL And I guess I shouldn't have tried to use a non-real example, because it's a different situation. The way it really happened: My friend Matt bought a computer from us, and he lost his Windows CD (or someone stole it). Now he needs to reinstall Windows. What law/agreement with Microsoft says I can't let him borrow my CD? Microsoft has VLK products too, where they only send you one CD for like 500 licences and it's cheaper that way. So why would they care in this case? (besides the obvious fact that they will do ANYTHING to make money) That is different, As I stated earlier each publisher has different rules. MS treats the CD key as your right of ownership. So the CD is nothing, the CD key sticker is the proof that you own the software. But as I stated before some publishers consider the media itself as the proof of ownership.
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Post by registrar on Jun 26, 2005 13:14:16 GMT -8
it's HIS key, so it's legal. By the way: downloading is legal as long as you don't share (as in allow downloads) or provide music/software (with or without monetary gain). According to my knowledge of the anti-piracy act. That's what I always say If you download something, you're doing nothing wrong. If you share the file or upload something (sharing is ALWAYS on by default), then you're doing something illegal DVDs for movies always say that this movie cannot be reproduced or sold or blah blah in any manner..well you're not doing any of that if you download it.
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MarvinRules
Be Yourself, Everybody else is taken.
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Post by MarvinRules on Jun 26, 2005 13:20:33 GMT -8
it's HIS key, so it's legal. By the way: downloading is legal as long as you don't share (as in allow downloads) or provide music/software (with or without monetary gain). According to my knowledge of the anti-piracy act. That's what I always say If you download something, you're doing nothing wrong. If you share the file or upload something (sharing is ALWAYS on by default), then you're doing something illegal DVDs for movies always say that this movie cannot be reproduced or sold or blah blah in any manner..well you're not doing any of that if you download it. That is still illegal! If the person who owns the copyright did not place it online for download then it is illegal! Your DVD analogy is flawed. It states that it can not be reproduced. Downloading it would be re-producing the data...
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Green Machine
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Zoni
I am awesome.
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Post by Zoni on Jun 26, 2005 13:23:28 GMT -8
That's what I always say If you download something, you're doing nothing wrong. If you share the file or upload something (sharing is ALWAYS on by default), then you're doing something illegal DVDs for movies always say that this movie cannot be reproduced or sold or blah blah in any manner..well you're not doing any of that if you download it. That is still illegal! If the person who owns the copyright did not place it online for download then it is illegal! Your DVD analogy is flawed. It states that it can not be reproduced. Downloading it would be re-producing the data... You're wrong again. Allowing it to be reproduced (providing reproduced material) is what's illegal. Read closely over the Act, you'll realize it says nothing about downloading being illegal unless sold or providing.
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