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Post by Mrs. Nesbit on Jun 28, 2005 19:41:23 GMT -8
it is anti-god as God hgas stated Homosexuality is evil... I'm not even going to get started with you...
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Post by richndanapoint on Jun 28, 2005 19:52:09 GMT -8
I'll get started with him. Personally, I don't know how the "religious" folk are able to compartmentalize their sentiments and separate their moral disapproval of the alleged sin from their moral disapproval of the alleged sinner. An element of learned hate (however disguised or justified as being something other than what it truly is) must most certainly spill over and taint their motivations.
Moral disapproval alone, whether based on personal biases or hate or religious beliefs (which I do not believe can be separated and compartmentalized in a manner to eliminate biases or hate), can never serve as a legitimate basis for unequal treatment of the persons (believed to be sinners by some) through the operation of laws. That's oppression, plain and simple. Tyranny in the name of religion is still tyranny.
It is not rational or legitimate in a diverse country such as ours for the religious folk to force their personally-held religious views on society as a whole through the operation of laws. We require our government to be secular for a compelling reason--so that ALL citizens (the religious folk and the non-religious folk; the straights and the gays; the blacks and the whites; etc.) can all live equally in our national society without fear of discriminatory treatment; share equally in the social and economic benefits of our citizenship; and share equally in the political processes of a religious-neutral government.
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Post by Joker on Jun 28, 2005 20:01:43 GMT -8
Why are you cheering about it?
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Post by kitsunex on Jun 28, 2005 20:08:03 GMT -8
Hurray for Canada! Hopefully America will advance into the 21st Century. I personally don't think the people in the "let's keep 'em separate but almost equal" camp have any claim to moral superiority over those who flatly refuse to treat homosexuals as equals under the law in any respect. Bias and oppression by varying degrees is still bias and oppression. No one gets it. Homosexuals aren't denied any rights. Out of all these overjoyed gay threads, this is probably the only correct statement ever made on the whole gay situation. Thanks Tman!
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Post by kitsunex on Jun 28, 2005 20:13:02 GMT -8
God's going to cast his wrath on them ... you watch ...
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Post by Mrs. Nesbit on Jun 28, 2005 20:15:16 GMT -8
God's going to cast his wrath on them ... you watch ... Some how I dont think that God has the time to worry about something as silly as this when there are more awful things to worry about in this world
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Post by kitsunex on Jun 28, 2005 20:19:31 GMT -8
As for America ... I think they shouldn't ban it nor make it legal ... I think if gay's wanna marry, then they need to toughen up and do so and risk the oppression. For the sake of both sides of the situation... All you see is marches, no real fighting. Marching is old people! Its time for drastic measures if you really want to get what you want in this world. I know this will sound Hitler like but .. If they can't struggle by force for what they believe in, why live or even bother fighting their point? Holla.
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Post by kitsunex on Jun 28, 2005 20:21:35 GMT -8
God's going to cast his wrath on them ... you watch ... Some how I dont think that God has the time to worry about something as silly as this when there are more awful things to worry about in this world Was a joke, lighten up. As for the god not worrying thing, the point of him being who he is, is to be involved spiritually with whats going on in the world.Don't just say god doesn't care about it, because you're not god.
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Post by Mrs. Nesbit on Jun 28, 2005 20:24:06 GMT -8
Some how I dont think that God has the time to worry about something as silly as this when there are more awful things to worry about in this world Was a joke, lighten up. As for the god not worrying thing, the point of him being who he is, is to be involved spiritually with whats going on in the world.Don't just say god doesn't care about it, because you're not god. Exactly, I'm not God and neither are the members of the American Senate. There are people in this world who aren't like me and don't believe in God. I'm not going to force my belifes on someone. I think that Canada did a wonderful thing and I am backing up my government. I do however like the idea that I hope they will not be getting married in a church.
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Post by kitsunex on Jun 28, 2005 20:26:02 GMT -8
Yeah .. they should be married in a pagan church .. Just kidding again. Yeah back up governments cool. Just remember where you stand and dont let the government sway you.
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Post by MarvinRules on Jun 28, 2005 20:26:58 GMT -8
As for America ... I think they shouldn't ban it nor make it legal ... I think if gay's wanna marry, then they need to toughen up and do so and risk the oppression. For the sake of both sides of the situation... All you see is marches, no real fighting. Marching is old people! Its time for drastic measures if you really want to get what you want in this world. I know this will sound Hitler like but .. If they can't struggle by force for what they believe in, why live or even bother fighting their point? Holla. So you want Gays to start shooting people who deny them what every white, black, and every other american citizen is handed without having to fight for it? I congrulate Canada for doing what our government is afraid to. It looks like I may be going to a few weddings in Canada over the next year.
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Post by kitsunex on Jun 28, 2005 20:29:13 GMT -8
As for America ... I think they shouldn't ban it nor make it legal ... I think if gay's wanna marry, then they need to toughen up and do so and risk the oppression. For the sake of both sides of the situation... All you see is marches, no real fighting. Marching is old people! Its time for drastic measures if you really want to get what you want in this world. I know this will sound Hitler like but .. If they can't struggle by force for what they believe in, why live or even bother fighting their point? Holla. So you want Gays to start shooting people who deny them what every white, black, and every other american citizen is handed without having to fight for it? I congrulate Canada for doing what our government is afraid to. It looks like I may be going to a few weddings in Canada over the next year. Not necessarily physical fighting I guess, just be a more stronger opposing debating force instead of just running around with rainbow flags screaming for 'rights'.
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Post by Tommy Huynh on Jun 28, 2005 20:33:32 GMT -8
Bring me along with you Rich Good job for Canana!
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Post by MarvinRules on Jun 28, 2005 20:35:25 GMT -8
::Adds one more reason to nuke Canada...going against the Bible...for teh fourth time...:: ::Adds one more reason to nuke you... nuking Canada is also going against the Bible...:: I find it interesting that people are willing to kill others who violate the bible, yet they are willing to ignore the 6th commandment "Thou shall not kill". Why is it OK to kill, but not let a gay couple marry? When someone commits adultery it is accepted, "Oh he just cheated on me once" however being gay asks for a death sentence? Especially when adultery in the bible is punishable by stoning the offender to death! Most of you bible thumpers are so contradictory it is hard to take you seriously! Not necessarily physical fighting I guess, just be a more stronger opposing debating force instead of just running around with rainbow flags screaming for 'rights'. Like what? The marches are to bring awareness to their rights! What do you want them to do?
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Post by richndanapoint on Jun 28, 2005 20:39:17 GMT -8
Like it or not, someday homosexuals will win the war against bigotry to obtain equal protection under the law.
It's not at all humiliating to advocate for fundamental rights and the equal protection of all persons. The war against bigotry might not be won in my lifetime, but I am confident that our constitutional values will prevail in the end. At least my life on this earth is not plagued with bias and hate towards others and the need to oppress those who are different than me.
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