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Post by D on Sept 29, 2010 0:56:30 GMT -8
First of all you have to say how you measure the degree to which it "works". Is "working well" based upon the amount of capital which the economy of the country accumulates, is it based on the successfulness in conflict in order to expand, or is it (god forbid!) measured by the happiness and contentedness of its citizens? Second of all you have a very naive view of serious social issues and international issues. A lot of people aren't obese because they're gluttonous. They're obese because they live in an extremely poor area, possibly a ghetto, and the only food available to them is cheap, but high fat/calorie ready meals and various other cheap foods. Don't forget to include those that have medical disorders that cause obesity as well. I have heard that many times but never seen any evidence for it (not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never went looking for it ) so I left it out.
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Post by Storm on Sept 29, 2010 1:14:26 GMT -8
Don't forget to include those that have medical disorders that cause obesity as well. I have heard that many times but never seen any evidence for it (not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never went looking for it ) so I left it out. Can understand, but here are a few references. Things such as thyroid disorders, depression, etc can cause people to be over weight. www.webmd.com/diet/medical-reasons-obesity
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Post by Robyn on Sept 29, 2010 4:10:22 GMT -8
As I always say, less Government. Ronald Regan (I believe) once said something like "The Government cannot solve our problems because the Government IS the problem". And that was back then. Look at us now. Sooner or later Obama's going to say "Alright, time to do what I say or else" and then we're screwed. Unless 2012 can come first, and someone else can be President.
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Post by huskette on Sept 29, 2010 5:23:04 GMT -8
Don't forget to include those that have medical disorders that cause obesity as well. I have heard that many times but never seen any evidence for it (not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never went looking for it ) so I left it out. I have... My mother had a hyperactive thyroïd when I was young and her weight would fluctuate wildly. Within a month she could gain and lose 20 pounds without ever changing anything... There are also genetic predispositions towards obesity... And of course a government that invests in band-aid solutions instead of putting programs in place to teach people healthy eating and exercise habits isn't really solving the problem.
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Post by drunkmonkey on Sept 29, 2010 5:51:48 GMT -8
Cuba is a perfect society..... if you're into 55' Chevys
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Post by iGeorge on Sept 29, 2010 8:18:39 GMT -8
As I always say, less Government. Ronald Regan (I believe) once said something like "The Government cannot solve our problems because the Government IS the problem". And that was back then. Look at us now. Sooner or later Obama's going to say "Alright, time to do what I say or else" and then we're screwed. Unless 2012 can come first, and someone else can be President. And yet you support the more authoritarian party.
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Post by Former Member on Sept 29, 2010 8:38:48 GMT -8
I have heard that many times but never seen any evidence for it (not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never went looking for it ) so I left it out. I have... My mother had a hyperactive thyroïd when I was young and her weight would fluctuate wildly. Within a month she could gain and lose 20 pounds without ever changing anything... There are also genetic predispositions towards obesity... And of course a government that invests in band-aid solutions instead of putting programs in place to teach people healthy eating and exercise habits isn't really solving the problem. Well things like that I can see. But the money should go to research on how to fix that. and consempation(SP?) money. But the one's who are fat because they eat at McDonald's, or any fast food restaurant everyday and get fat that way, by not exercising it off, doesn't need the money, it will just support their eating habits more. I have an aunt and cousin on disability (not for being over weight, but because they have back problems due to being over weight) and they eat McDonald's every night/day... So, that's why I mentioned it.
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Post by Hurtfulsplash on Sept 29, 2010 8:57:48 GMT -8
Which one do you think works? Now before you vote, hear me out. I am being as serious as possible. I think that a lot of your opinions have nothing to do with Democracy or Dictatorship, there are just a lot of bad choices being made financially in the States right now.
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Post by Former Member on Sept 29, 2010 8:59:57 GMT -8
Which one do you think works? Now before you vote, hear me out. I am being as serious as possible. I think Dictatorship works. Why? Because when Hitler was in charge of Germany, things got done. Sure the mass killings of the Jews was horrible, but still Hitler brought Germany up from nothing to something. Sure on bad grounds, but it worked. Joseph Stalin brought Russia up, and made things right. Does it work? Yes! I'm not saying "Lets go the "Big Brother" way". But Do you see Japan, Korea, Canada etc in an economic slump? No! The American way... The Government... it's funny! Really. Give obese disability because they are not disabled? Sure it's sad they are fat, but they are fat for a reason! Eating to much! (I for one am overweight, but you don't see me asking for disability) Yes I can see giving disability to people with lower than the minimum IQ standards. But obese people are fat for one reason! Eating! (Unless born that way) Lets give Credit cards away! People max out their cards, and then say oh crap! Now I need to file bankruptcy! There's more money out the door! We give millions of dollars to third world countries, like the middle east, but what about our own backdoor? We need to fix our selves before fixing other countries. The Government doesn't work. It's like going to an elementary school and letting 3 year olds read and sign the bills. If Dictator ship worked in Germany, Korea, etc, then why can't it work here? seriously!?
Ok, so everyone knows I would never get into a political stuff, but a friend and I were talking, most of his views I posted. Not all of it is based on facts, and it's somewhat opinion. So discuss. Please give me a good debate! I think we need one seeing as our last few ones kind of went down the tube. Prove me wrong that our system works, and that Dictatorship is wrong! I think that a lot of your opinions have nothing to do with Democracy or Dictatorship, but just bad choices being made financially in the States right now. Most likely. lol.
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Post by Renegade on Sept 29, 2010 10:58:50 GMT -8
I think Dictatorship works. Why? Because when Hitler was in charge of Germany, things got done. Sure the mass killings of the Jews was horrible, but still Hitler brought Germany up from nothing to something. Sure on bad grounds, but it worked. Joseph Stalin brought Russia up, and made things right. Does it work? Yes! If Dictator ship worked in Germany, Korea, etc, then why can't it work here? seriously!? Is your idea of things working to have people being killed for disagreeing with the government, being the 'wrong' religion, or colour; and having every part of your life controlled? Criticizing your nation's government in a dictatorship = firing squad for you anyway.
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Post by wildgoosespeeder on Sept 29, 2010 11:06:54 GMT -8
Again people mistake America as a democracy. It's a republic. Well the reason we think America is a democracy is because we vote. Well a republic is flawed too because everything has to be unanimous like when it comes to electing a President, a unanimous vote is just not going to happen, so really our American form of government is a republic but uses a representative democracy for elections. Time to dish out this video yet again...
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Post by Rick Ace on Sept 29, 2010 11:24:03 GMT -8
I prefer the Original American Democracy, before it went down the hole with bad presidents, over the American Democracy you describe, and a dictatorship/. You mean back when only wealthy, white men had any say in it? Oh, the good ol' days... That sarcasm or racism?
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Post by daniel on Sept 29, 2010 11:33:35 GMT -8
You mean back when only wealthy, white men had any say in it? Oh, the good ol' days... That sarcasm or racism? Very obviously sarcasm.
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Post by ToriJ on Sept 29, 2010 11:41:59 GMT -8
Sorry, I'm too pro-freedom here to vote for the Dictatorship.
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Post by Girl Dale on Sept 29, 2010 19:50:39 GMT -8
Dictator. The whole of America is just making horrid choices in voting...
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