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Post by Albireo on Dec 18, 2010 22:33:00 GMT -8
Humanity in a whole is a growing problem on population. We are destroying our earth, and air every second that goes by with little care what to happen in the future. There are more people doing harm than good into the world. Also, people with less than average IQ is having more children in the world than people have high IQ. Which cause their children IQ to be low in most cases. In turn, the general IQ of the world is going down. In other words, we're going more stupid as time goes by. If the government seriously looked at this issue and came up with idea on doing a population control program. Nine out of ten, people will not like the idea and disagree with it. Most people loves the idea of having a big family. However, I am not one of those people. I personally think a population control should be done. Fewer people to do harm to the world. Slowly but surely raise the IQ up again. As time goes by, we move forward in technology and get smarter. I think something like, each child you have you suffer a penalty. Less kids in the world, and the national treasure debt will be less and possible be out of debt.
Thoughts? Agree? Disagree? Your own ides? DISCUSS!
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Post by aether on Dec 18, 2010 22:37:53 GMT -8
You know, someone had the same idea once. He spent time thinking of what would be best for humanity in the long run. Well-built, athletic, intelligent people would be given the obligation to procreate to create a better human race. His name was Adolf Hitler. Alright, that was a bit of a joke. More so the kind of joke that's funny because it's true. What makes humanity more different than any other species is our propensity for intellectual thought, our power of choice, and our capacity for empathy. Those three combined lead to a civilization which is generally against the euthanasia of the weak for the sake of the strong. I mean, if I turn out to be a weaker human, I wouldn't want to die just for the sake of a stronger humanity.
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Post by daniel on Dec 18, 2010 22:46:02 GMT -8
We don't have a population problem. Humanity has a poverty problem. Bring people out of abject poverty and give them a basic level of education and society seems to balance out with a birth rate just enough to maintain stability (assuming no emigration/immigration).
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Post by Derek‽ on Dec 18, 2010 22:49:26 GMT -8
I mean, if I turn out to be a weaker human, I wouldn't want to die just for the sake of a stronger humanity. Aether, we're gonna need to go ahead and pull the plug. We have some new übermensch coming in, and we need all the space we can get. So if you could just go ahead and stop breathing, that would be terrific, OK? </lumbergh>
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Post by Trill on Dec 18, 2010 22:57:22 GMT -8
It's called " natural selection" for a reason.
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Post by wildgoosespeeder on Dec 19, 2010 0:52:52 GMT -8
I say without government, dumb people would die. Dark thought I know but true if you think about it.
China is going in the right direction by only having one offspring but only males. Like gravity, it sounds like a good idea (up) but it's coming back to harm them (down) and the Chinese race could go "extinct" if they continue.
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Post by Bob on Dec 19, 2010 1:06:07 GMT -8
Population has a tenancy to self-regulate. Once the real problem is population we'll begin to see that. Oil, for example, is a finite resource. It's believed that we're already using up the last oil deposits on the planet. But even if that's not true, one irrefutable fact is that population has a direct role on oil consumption.
It's one resource that we're entirely dependent on. Even if you ignore the fact that oil is at the base of the world's economy. Without oil we have nothing. The modern world revolves around the resource. We've moved so far from being self-reliant that the moment the oil reserves are depleted, the population will be forced to drop back to what it was in in the early 1900s/late 1800s. Before we began using oil to mass produce life.
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Post by D on Dec 19, 2010 3:55:18 GMT -8
Humanity in a whole is a growing problem on population. We are destroying our earth, and air every second that goes by with little care what to happen in the future. There are more people doing harm than good into the world. Also, people with less than average IQ is having more children in the world than people have high IQ. Which cause their children IQ to be low in most cases. In turn, the general IQ of the world is going down. In other words, we're going more stupid as time goes by. If the government seriously looked at this issue and came up with idea on doing a population control program. Nine out of ten, people will not like the idea and disagree with it. Most people loves the idea of having a big family. However, I am not one of those people. I personally think a population control should be done. Fewer people to do harm to the world. Slowly but surely raise the IQ up again. As time goes by, we move forward in technology and get smarter. I think something like, each child you have you suffer a penalty. Less kids in the world, and the national treasure debt will be less and possible be out of debt. Thoughts? Agree? Disagree? Your own ides? DISCUSS! [citation needed] for everything
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Post by Anselm on Dec 19, 2010 6:02:23 GMT -8
As people get richer, population growth tends to decrease.
People are getting richer.
And with population control, what if you stopped the next inventor, the next innovator being born? Someone who finds something that replaces oil for example? Less humans = less human ingenuity.
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Post by Robyn on Dec 19, 2010 6:41:53 GMT -8
Here's the problem. We don't have too many people. We have too many STUPID people. We have people who think that we are over populated and want to help stop it. We have people who think that having a lower IQ is bad for this world and we need to educate ourselves better. We have people who believe that the Government can solve our problems. We have people who have too much time on their hands. We also have trolls.
I'm not sure which you are, but you are 100% incorrect about the HOW and the WHY. The WHAT is correct. We have a TON of people on the Earth. We aren't over populated to the point of dying though since last time I checked there's at least a 1/10 mile radius around me of clear space. Also, the IQ issue is very easy to understand. You can be born with a metal challenge, does that mean you need to die? No.
The Government shouldn't be in the plans at all. The Government is a whole other monster to deal with. Monsters fight, they don't get along. Don't ask the Government to help with our problems. Oh too late. We already have.
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Post by Dumezil on Dec 19, 2010 8:23:37 GMT -8
Call them stupid to bring them to the light. Effective.
Anywho. I once remember someone important once discussing this problem and didn't they suggest eating babies or something like that? I'm all for it.
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Post by brokenmalice on Dec 19, 2010 9:27:32 GMT -8
Call them stupid to bring them to the light. Effective. Anywho. I once remember someone important once discussing this problem and didn't they suggest eating babies or something like that? I'm all for it. Johnathan Swift's A Modest Proposal. One of the best essays I've ever read (aside from "Let's Nuke the Moon").
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Post by Albireo on Dec 19, 2010 10:10:38 GMT -8
Here's the problem. We don't have too many people. We have too many STUPID people. We have people who think that we are over populated and want to help stop it. We have people who think that having a lower IQ is bad for this world and we need to educate ourselves better. We have people who believe that the Government can solve our problems. We have people who have too much time on their hands. We also have trolls. I'm not sure which you are, but you are 100% incorrect about the HOW and the WHY. The WHAT is correct. We have a TON of people on the Earth. We aren't over populated to the point of dying though since last time I checked there's at least a 1/10 mile radius around me of clear space. Also, the IQ issue is very easy to understand. You can be born with a metal challenge, does that mean you need to die? No. The Government shouldn't be in the plans at all. The Government is a whole other monster to deal with. Monsters fight, they don't get along. Don't ask the Government to help with our problems. Oh too late. We already have. Not trolling at all just throwing out my ideas xD Having a MENTAL problem does not make someone stupid. I have a learning disability. Never in my post did I say people should die for having or to be born. I said to put a penalty. Let say 90 percent of people IQ is below average now. The new average will be lower to something else. The average is 90-109 which is 50% percent of people around the world. Let say due to our population increase and the problems I put up there, the new average becomes 80-89. That really low to be honest. Those numbers alone is not going to give us the cure for cancer, now is it? To those mentioning about resources. Humans are able to adapt very easy and quickly. Look at the ice age, look at medieval times. Heck, if you're a descendant of someone from back then who had the black plague, you're immune to STD'S. Once oil is use up, we will adapt to this, and search for something else. We're already looking at that idea for something like water to be use. However, BECAUSE we are using so much resources at once with our high population we are causing our own genocide. Look at green houses effect for one thing. Poverty is always a problem and never going to end either with humans using money system. Money system we use now should be remove. This way, no crimes dealing with money will exist. I would put my own idea on this issue, however if i don't want to be flame for my view.
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Post by Anselm on Dec 19, 2010 10:14:18 GMT -8
The average is 90-109 which is 50% percent of people around the world. Let say due to our population increase and the problems I put up there, the new average becomes 80-89. That really low to be honest. Those numbers alone is not going to give us the cure for cancer, now is it? Umm, this is an average. It doesn't stop geniuses being born, and it doesn't stop something like good teaching (I'm along the lines of something that increases your IQ during your lifetime) pushing up that average IQ. And can you cite some evidence for intelligence being genetic? And also for this supposed problem of more less intelligent people being born, any figures? Poverty is always a problem and never going to end either with humans using money system. Money system we use now should be remove. This way, no crimes dealing with money will exist. Are you seriously saying that we would be richer without a monetary system? Remember money is a means of exchange, it values things, and since exchange makes us richer it's good. Are primitive barter systems really better? Or what's the alternative? The use of money, however imperfect it is, does have the benefit of making us richer.
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