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Post by Kahara on Nov 28, 2011 22:42:44 GMT -8
I'm really glad to hear about the update, Patrick. It's nice to know that Proboards is taking steps forward in stopping this nonsense. (I got a PM from the spammer today on support forums. I've no idea if they're banned or not and I'm unwilling to open the PM. barack666 - Did anyone else get a PM or was it just me targeted..? I didn't see it mentioned anywhere else in the thread.)
I'd like to be able to say "I hope it doesn't go as far as legal actions and courts" but after all of what this spammer did, I think it's the LEAST they deserve.
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Post by Coyote on Nov 28, 2011 22:47:57 GMT -8
I got that one like...yesterday or something and I was told that that account was banned.
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Post by Luke on Nov 28, 2011 22:49:43 GMT -8
I dunno maybe some of us just feel as if we deserve an apology for these attacks instead of forum staff suggesting that we lock our forums and loose members. If you are referring to ProBoards issuing some kind of apology, I don't feel that is appropriate at all. We are obviously not associated with this person in any way and had absolutely nothing to do with their actions. We have no more control over what people do online than you do. However, we are taking the necessary steps to stop this person and I believe we have done so. We will continue to press this matter legally if there are any more attacks. Patrick But who do we know this is the same person for everyone, I reckon it's someone different for my forum which gets spammed 500+ messages each time basically every few weeks because he seems to watch our forum so closely, why would a spammer do this? Wouldn't they just spam for the sake of it and just keep going for it. I think at least a timezone would help which they're from because then some of us might know if you've caught the person doing it to us, because the person does it mid-night my local time.
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Post by Coyote on Nov 28, 2011 23:03:59 GMT -8
Because the group/person had a site set up with a bunch of people cboxes so they could monitor all the sites they were hitting at once, they had a list of sites they had hit and were going to hit. They used pretty much the same names on every site, variations. They sent the same message everytime, used the same methods. Seems like they are all linked to me.
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Post by Luke on Nov 28, 2011 23:38:59 GMT -8
Because the group/person had a site set up with a bunch of people cboxes so they could monitor all the sites they were hitting at once, they had a list of sites they had hit and were going to hit. They used pretty much the same names on every site, variations. They sent the same message everytime, used the same methods. Seems like they are all linked to me. I dont think the person who spammed my site is linked then, they were very personal with their threats at us, I got told to mess off and kill my self and in the spamming they used our names and said this and that about us, the owners. They also linked to another coding and design forum.
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Post by Coyote on Nov 28, 2011 23:49:00 GMT -8
Yep...they did the same to us.
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Post by Kahara on Nov 29, 2011 0:10:37 GMT -8
From what I can tell their methods vary but are still similar enough to be able to come to the conclusion it's the same spammer going around. Plus like + Foxx said there were two sites (A proboards one and a invision one -- both got shut down after being reported) where the spammer kept the information. Such as emails to use, usernames and sites. I didn't know about the cbox thing, but I do now.
From what I've also heard and seen they'll use the last forum they attacked (or a random, mostly the last one they attacked however) to link to. They've also recently been linking to a youtube account which I REFUSE to look at.
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Post by gfx25 on Nov 29, 2011 3:10:11 GMT -8
I dunno maybe some of us just feel as if we deserve an apology for these attacks instead of forum staff suggesting that we lock our forums and loose members. If you are referring to ProBoards issuing some kind of apology, I don't feel that is appropriate at all. We are obviously not associated with this person in any way and had absolutely nothing to do with their actions. We have no more control over what people do online than you do. However, we are taking the necessary steps to stop this person and I believe we have done so. We will continue to press this matter legally if there are any more attacks. Patrick Let me ask you this, is this the first time proboards has been spammed like this? Do you think it's really fair that we have to sit their and remove constant number of posts. Sites do get attacked with spammers sure, but it's been taking since August to be dealt with, in the mean time were sitting here loosing activity and all you guy's can suggest is to turn on limited reg and even then we still don't know if he rejoins or not. I thought Proboards was suppose to be hackers free. Can you understand why some of us may be upset? Maybe a optional script that blocks proxy sites should be added or maybe a script that shows your original ip even if you use a proxy. As I said before I was apart of a forum hosted by proboards with 250 member or so and we are having to move because we have no choice, and yes we have done what proboards suggest we still got hit 8 different time. All forums should of been locked down, the spammer dealt with, and an apology email sent for the lose of activity. Sony did it and their back online with what seems like no issues except shutting down once in a while for maintenance but that's no big deal.
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Post by Storm on Nov 29, 2011 4:47:33 GMT -8
If you are referring to ProBoards issuing some kind of apology, I don't feel that is appropriate at all. We are obviously not associated with this person in any way and had absolutely nothing to do with their actions. We have no more control over what people do online than you do. However, we are taking the necessary steps to stop this person and I believe we have done so. We will continue to press this matter legally if there are any more attacks. Patrick I thought Proboards was suppose to be hackers free. Can you understand why some of us may be upset? Maybe a optional script that blocks proxy sites should be added or maybe a script that shows your original ip even if you use a proxy. Proboards is hack free. It's been stated numerous times that a person can ONLY get into your account the same way you do, by knowing the correct password. It's up to people to make certain their passwords and emails are secure, it's not Proboard's responsibility for this. And might want to go back through the thread. It has been pointed out that the spammer only changes his own display name to that of the victims he is hurting. (This not counting the actual breakins of the person's emails to get their passwords.) Most people don't know to simply click on a name to see what the user name is to verify if it's the actual person. And people still use proxies legitly. It wouldn't be fair to those who use them in an honest manner simply because they want privacy. And even with displaying the proxy ip, it's still not right. And even displaying an original ip even while someone uses a proxy could still fall under invasion of privacy. A real good way to run off members. A forum owner can go to sites like: www.dnsstuff.com/Or: www.whatismyip.com/To help with looking up an ip address. Don't punish those who are legit because one person has to be an idiot.
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Post by Kahara on Nov 29, 2011 4:51:50 GMT -8
I doubt this is the first time Proboards has been spammed like this and it probably won't be the last.
It isn't fair, no. But you have to take a moment to look at it from their point of view. They can't just jump the gun and start ban hammering like crazy. These sort of things take time and they've probably had other concerns as well. So they can't just center their work around one issue -- no matter how big or small it is. They likely want to level things out a bit.
No place is free of hackers. Hackers hack -- they find new ways to get around blocks and systems meant to keep areas as hacker free as possible.
I do believe there is some sort of proxy setting that doesn't allow for proxies to be used. However like all things, with time comes change and new technology that I assume allows for users to bypass such scripts.
I'm sorry to hear that but getting angry at the Proboards staff and asking them to apologize for something they tried their best on isn't going to do anything to change the past or even the future.
I think you're taking it a bit far there, friend. :/ Total forum lock down would have only given the spammer some sort of ego boost for accomplishing that much. Proboards don't need to apologize for activity drops because they did give us good suggestions to avoid that and all activity can be regained with proper steps in the right direction of advertisement and fixer-upers.
And Proboards isn't Sony.
I know I'm not Proboards staff and in no way am I attempting to take the place of any of their replies, but I'm just throwing my two cents in here. I feel you're just a overreacting a little bit. After all, Patrick said they're dealing with the issue.
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Post by Thesealion on Nov 29, 2011 5:59:10 GMT -8
If you are referring to ProBoards issuing some kind of apology, I don't feel that is appropriate at all. We are obviously not associated with this person in any way and had absolutely nothing to do with their actions. We have no more control over what people do online than you do. However, we are taking the necessary steps to stop this person and I believe we have done so. We will continue to press this matter legally if there are any more attacks. Patrick Let me ask you this, is this the first time proboards has been spammed like this? Do you think it's really fair that we have to sit their and remove constant number of posts. Sites do get attacked with spammers sure, but it's been taking since August to be dealt with, in the mean time were sitting here loosing activity and all you guy's can suggest is to turn on limited reg and even then we still don't know if he rejoins or not. I thought Proboards was suppose to be hackers free. Can you understand why some of us may be upset? Maybe a optional script that blocks proxy sites should be added or maybe a script that shows your original ip even if you use a proxy. As I said before I was apart of a forum hosted by proboards with 250 member or so and we are having to move because we have no choice, and yes we have done what proboards suggest we still got hit 8 different time. All forums should of been locked down, the spammer dealt with, and an apology email sent for the lose of activity. Sony did it and their back online with what seems like no issues except shutting down once in a while for maintenance but that's no big deal. Why can't we just sit back and let PB take care of it? I'm sure that they are working as hard as they can on the problem. Why do we have to want them to apologize? The PB staff did absolutely nothing wrong. They cleaned up the spam here and are currently trying their best to fix the problem. They even told us what they were doing, which tipped off the spammer, why the heck do we want them to do more? Proboards can't be hacked but it can be used by people who want to use it...THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FORUMS. If you want it to be accessible to people on the net you have to take the risk of spammers like this...i don't think there is another forum host out there that wouldn't be doing exactly what PB is doing.
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Post by gfx25 on Nov 29, 2011 6:10:31 GMT -8
Lol at all the people quoting me, I must be right in some way.
So true
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Post by Robyn on Nov 29, 2011 6:23:26 GMT -8
If you are referring to ProBoards issuing some kind of apology, I don't feel that is appropriate at all. We are obviously not associated with this person in any way and had absolutely nothing to do with their actions. We have no more control over what people do online than you do. However, we are taking the necessary steps to stop this person and I believe we have done so. We will continue to press this matter legally if there are any more attacks. Patrick Let me ask you this, is this the first time proboards has been spammed like this? Do you think it's really fair that we have to sit their and remove constant number of posts. Sites do get attacked with spammers sure, but it's been taking since August to be dealt with, in the mean time were sitting here loosing activity and all you guy's can suggest is to turn on limited reg and even then we still don't know if he rejoins or not. I thought Proboards was suppose to be hackers free. Can you understand why some of us may be upset? Maybe a optional script that blocks proxy sites should be added or maybe a script that shows your original ip even if you use a proxy. As I said before I was apart of a forum hosted by proboards with 250 member or so and we are having to move because we have no choice, and yes we have done what proboards suggest we still got hit 8 different time. All forums should of been locked down, the spammer dealt with, and an apology email sent for the lose of activity. Sony did it and their back online with what seems like no issues except shutting down once in a while for maintenance but that's no big deal. Sony apologized because THEIR network was shut down by hackers. Proboards website didn't get hacked, their forum didn't get hacked. It just got spam from a troll/spammer. Should ProBoards apologize every time a member such as myself whom many deem a troll or otherwise some rude member posts? Should ProBoards publicly make videos apologizing that bad people are registering all the time trying to destroy ProBoards?
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Post by daniel on Nov 29, 2011 6:54:39 GMT -8
Let me ask you this, is this the first time proboards has been spammed like this? Do you think it's really fair that we have to sit their and remove constant number of posts. Sites do get attacked with spammers sure, but it's been taking since August to be dealt with, in the mean time were sitting here loosing activity and all you guy's can suggest is to turn on limited reg and even then we still don't know if he rejoins or not. I thought Proboards was suppose to be hackers free. Can you understand why some of us may be upset? Maybe a optional script that blocks proxy sites should be added or maybe a script that shows your original ip even if you use a proxy. As I said before I was apart of a forum hosted by proboards with 250 member or so and we are having to move because we have no choice, and yes we have done what proboards suggest we still got hit 8 different time. All forums should of been locked down, the spammer dealt with, and an apology email sent for the lose of activity. Sony did it and their back online with what seems like no issues except shutting down once in a while for maintenance but that's no big deal. Again, it isn't a Proboards issue- it's an issue with the entire internet. The only way to avoid it would be to not use the internet or to have some security state officer looking over your shoulder at every moment. You could ignore the internet, or you could have a police person at every computer screen everywhere. Both of those sound pretty awful to me, so I'll keep up what I'm doing and know that occasionally I'll have to ignore trolls. It's annoying, sure, but that's the point in having active moderation. Any forum that has vigilant admins and moderation can stop such attacks in their tracks. Disable guest posting, force new member approval, and have members secure their own passwords. You say it's gone on for months, but those things take minutes to accomplish... You gotta understand that if it was a problem with cboxes then that's nothing proboards can control. If it was members with people not securing their email accounts that's nothing proboards can control. Your comparison with Sony is beyond outrageous. Sony had their entire system hacked. Here, Proboards wasn't hacked at all- it was members' accounts and added scripts like cboxes. Sony had private information for customers leaked. Proboards had nothing of the sort. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill here. This was just a random troll, not something anywhere near the scope of what you're talking about.
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Post by roman824410 on Nov 29, 2011 6:55:37 GMT -8
Because the group/person had a site set up with a bunch of people cboxes so they could monitor all the sites they were hitting at once, they had a list of sites they had hit and were going to hit. They used pretty much the same names on every site, variations. They sent the same message everytime, used the same methods. Seems like they are all linked to me. I dont think the person who spammed my site is linked then, they were very personal with their threats at us, I got told to mess off and kill my self and in the spamming they used our names and said this and that about us, the owners. They also linked to another coding and design forum. It probably is a different person. Although this troll is known to impersonate people, it's obvious that his attacks are random. Plus, from my investigation of him, I noticed that he's lazy. The list of forums he had on his site was divided by how many members they had. When I mentioned the situation to every forum, most of the ones who claimed to be spammed were the 11-50 forums, and the 51-100. The ones over 200 either never had him, or he only sent messages to half of the members. And the 1000 member forum never even seen him. Let me ask you this, is this the first time proboards has been spammed like this? Do you think it's really fair that we have to sit their and remove constant number of posts. Sites do get attacked with spammers sure, but it's been taking since August to be dealt with, in the mean time were sitting here loosing activity and all you guy's can suggest is to turn on limited reg and even then we still don't know if he rejoins or not. I thought Proboards was suppose to be hackers free. Can you understand why some of us may be upset? Maybe a optional script that blocks proxy sites should be added or maybe a script that shows your original ip even if you use a proxy. As I said before I was apart of a forum hosted by proboards with 250 member or so and we are having to move because we have no choice, and yes we have done what proboards suggest we still got hit 8 different time. All forums should of been locked down, the spammer dealt with, and an apology email sent for the lose of activity. Sony did it and their back online with what seems like no issues except shutting down once in a while for maintenance but that's no big deal. Again, it isn't a Proboards issue- it's an issue with the entire internet. The only way to avoid it would be to not use the internet or to have some security state officer looking over your shoulder at every moment. You could ignore the internet, or you could have a police person at every computer screen everywhere. Both of those sound pretty awful to me, so I'll keep up what I'm doing and know that occasionally I'll have to ignore trolls. It's annoying, sure, but that's the point in having active moderation. Any forum that has vigilant admins and moderation can stop such attacks in their tracks. Disable guest posting, force new member approval, and have members secure their own passwords. You say it's gone on for months, but those things take minutes to accomplish... You gotta understand that if it was a problem with cboxes then that's nothing proboards can control. If it was members with people not securing their email accounts that's nothing proboards can control. Your comparison with Sony is beyond outrageous. Sony had their entire system hacked. Here, Proboards wasn't hacked at all- it was members' accounts and added scripts like cboxes. Sony had private information for customers leaked. Proboards had nothing of the sort. Stop making a mountain out of a mole hill here. This was just a random troll, not something anywhere near the scope of what you're talking about. That's what I've been trying to say all along. I've seen plenty of trolls in my years of dealing with forums, most of whom put the guy we're dealing with to shame. I didn't complain to whoever I was using the forum with, I dealt with it and moved on.
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