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Post by Scott on Dec 20, 2018 5:26:46 GMT -8
Question ---if time travel was possible and you got sent accidentally back in time to say... medieval times...and you fell in deeply love with someone from that time would you give up 21st century luxuries and your family and friends to stay with your beloved, would you come back alone and give up love or would you try to talk your beloved into coming back to this time with you? So curious, how were you "accidentally" sent back in time? Were you speeding in a DeLorean? Or did you meet up with some doctor (who, I don't know)? Because if being sent back was an accident, then how are you able to return to your time? Food for thought — Have you ever experience déjà vu? (French that means literally, "already seen." An overwhelming sense of familiarity with something that shouldn't be familiar at all.) I propose that déjà vu is actually a hiccup in time, or if you will a "ripple" that occurs when a time travel event has taken place that affects your time line, - an event occurring in the past where a subtle change ripples forward through time. Think about it.
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Post by Retread on Dec 20, 2018 6:34:42 GMT -8
Food for thought — Have you ever experience déjà vu? Haven't we already had this conversation?
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Post by 📚 Dianne 📚 on Dec 21, 2018 4:31:02 GMT -8
Question ---if time travel was possible and you got sent accidentally back in time to say... medieval times...and you fell in deeply love with someone from that time would you give up 21st century luxuries and your family and friends to stay with your beloved, would you come back alone and give up love or would you try to talk your beloved into coming back to this time with you? So curious, how were you "accidentally" sent back in time? Were you speeding in a DeLorean? Or did you meet up with some doctor (who, I don't know)? Because if being sent back was an accident, then how are you able to return to your time? Food for thought — Have you ever experience déjà vu? (French that means literally, "already seen." An overwhelming sense of familiarity with something that shouldn't be familiar at all.) I propose that déjà vu is actually a hiccup in time, or if you will a "ripple" that occurs when a time travel event has taken place that affects your time line, - an event occurring in the past where a subtle change ripples forward through time. Think about it. Laugh if you will Scott but déjà vu is one of the ways the author explains a part of the time travel in one of her books. Do you really need me to explain this author's methods? I can give you the synopsis, plot points and review of the first book in the series if you are interested! It's fiction folks!
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Post by Scott on Dec 21, 2018 4:44:43 GMT -8
📚 Dianne 📚, I was actually serious about the déjà vu. And yeah I know it's fiction, but I am curious how the 'accidental' time travel was achieved, as this suggests something beyond the character's control. So as such, I would assume there's the initial undertaking of trying to figure out how to return to their own time.
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Post by 📚 Dianne 📚 on Dec 21, 2018 4:53:06 GMT -8
📚 Dianne 📚 , I was actually serious about the déjà vu. And yeah I know it's fiction, but I am curious how the 'accidental' time travel was achieved, as this suggests something beyond the character's control. So as such, I would assume there's the initial undertaking of trying to figure out how to return to their own time. It is odd that you bring up the déjà vu issue as she used this in the last book I just read (this is a whole series). She is actually a good author for something like time travel, especially with the very first novel when she tries to explain that anyone traveling through time can only change so much or you disrupt history. As far as how it happens well that's where you have to suspend disbelief unless you are of a certain cultural persuasion - she writes about 'thin' areas between centuries, (certain magical areas) "fairy" rings, things of this sort. It is all beyond your control - but only up to a certain point, mostly getting there - Many times the 'modern' person can take back their new Medeivil beloved back to this century. Most happen in remote parts of Scotland some in England and once even in Gramercy Park in NYC (the first book).
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Post by Knightly Celt on Dec 21, 2018 7:15:49 GMT -8
📚 Dianne 📚 , I was actually serious about the déjà vu. And yeah I know it's fiction, but I am curious how the 'accidental' time travel was achieved, as this suggests something beyond the character's control. So as such, I would assume there's the initial undertaking of trying to figure out how to return to their own time. It is odd that you bring up the déjà vu issue as she used this in the last book I just read (this is a whole series). She is actually a good author for something like time travel, especially with the very first novel when she tries to explain that anyone traveling through time can only change so much or you disrupt history. As far as how it happens well that's where you have to suspend disbelief unless you are of a certain cultural persuasion - she writes about 'thin' areas between centuries, (certain magical areas) "fairy" rings, things of this sort. It is all beyond your control - but only up to a certain point, mostly getting there - Many times the 'modern' person can take back their new Medeivil beloved back to this century. Most happen in remote parts of Scotland some in England and once even in Gramercy Park in NYC (the first book). Well, if I'd known that Scotland was a destination, I might have changed my reply, not only because of my Scottish heritage (my grandparents emigrated from Scotland in 1925), but also because . . . I look GREAT in a kilt!
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Post by Retread on Dec 21, 2018 7:32:26 GMT -8
but also because . . . I look GREAT in a kilt! When the Scotsman woke to nature's call, he stumbled towards the trees Behind the bush, he lifts his kilt, and he gawks at what he sees, And in a startled voice, he says to what's before his eyes, "My friend, I don't know where you've been, but I see you won first prize!"
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Post by Jamie lawrence on Dec 30, 2018 10:46:46 GMT -8
Sorry I've not been active in a while.
If time travel was possible (which I believe it is) you would have to take great care in doing so because if you go back in time and they all realise your a time traveler that would change the future of the human race. It could also create a paradox which is far too dangerous.
I would only use time travel to see history taking place like for me being a Celtic fc fan I would go back to see Celtic winning the European cup and becoming the first British club to do so, I would also go back to meet William hartnall the first doctor in doctor who etc, you can't change history no matter how much you want to if everyone knows what I mean? .
Unless I watch too much Doctor Who which tells very good facts about time travel
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Post by Jamie lawrence on Apr 24, 2019 17:27:06 GMT -8
Time travel is a mind bender. If you went back in time, wouldn't time already know you did that? Maybe? Certainly if you went back in time and you met you, you would already know. But if you didn't meet you, maybe you wouldn't. ... or something like that. 🤔 Very good theory but it would be impossible for you to travel back in time down your own personal timeline. If you meet yourself in the past it would cause a chain reaction to time itself ( In other words a paradox). Each time you travel back in time you would create a crack through the fabric of reality and it is /would be very dangerous if you didn't know what you was doing . Time itself is complicated, history is the same. You cannot change history from/in the past regardless how much you want to. These things are known as "Fixed points in time " and it's very important that you would obey the rules of time travel , i wouldn't say that meeting yourself in the future with time travel would cause a paradox / chain reaction because your future self would know what would happen if he/ she seen the future. Like I said time itself and time travel is very complicated.
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Post by Ameline on Apr 25, 2019 7:08:31 GMT -8
Can't imagine I would love someone enough to give up my laptop and toilet paper. I would only stay in medieval times if it came with a sex change. Kind of think being burned as a witch or treated as property would take the fun out of it for me.
So I think I'll just go with Knightly Celt option and just watch.
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Post by Erik Mouse on Apr 25, 2019 7:48:47 GMT -8
Question ---if time travel was possible and you got sent accidentally back in time to say... medieval times...and you fell in deeply love with someone from that time would you give up 21st century luxuries and your family and friends to stay with your beloved, would you come back alone and give up love or would you try to talk your beloved into coming back to this time with you? One reason I may be interested in the medieval times is to assist me in my fan fiction story writing such as getting ideas related to the mythical Gummi Bears. Time travel is a mind bender. If you went back in time, wouldn't time already know you did that? Sounds to me you are referring to the Predestination Paradox. Maybe? Certainly if you went back in time and you met you, you would already know. But if you didn't meet you, maybe you wouldn't. ... or something like that. 🤔 Let's make this a tad easier, there is only one of you at any point in time. You will not encounter yourself at any point in time Although I have to admit the author did encounter a sort of similar issue with a 600-year-old ghost, someone going back in time to kill her killer and the problem she had in remembering him when she came forward alive and not a ghost -now THAT was a fascinating book! It could be worse, you find out that the 600-year-old ghost is actually the Pastmaster who wants to find the Tome of Time, a mysterious book that has the power to control time and space, so that they can send us all back to the dark ages. I don't know, the author didn't tackle that issue -and here I thought she thought of it all...*carp, now I'm getting a headache trying to puzzle your question out* Hmmm...no I don't think you would 'remember' going back in time because you hadn't done it yet LOL, what I was trying to say, but did so poorly, was wouldn't time itself know that you were going back already, so going back wouldn't screw up the timeline, because you going back was part of the timeline. That is sounding like you are talking about the Predestination Paradox. LOL, what I was trying to say, but did so poorly, was wouldn't time itself know that you were going back already, so going back wouldn't screw up the timeline, because you going back was part of the timeline. Ah, that puts an entirely different spin on things. Looking back, you did say that but I didn't read it correctly. It seems like there could be some temporal paradoxes which could occur if you changed events. Let's say if you went back in time and kidnapped childhood Adolph and his mother and left them on a deserted but inhabitable island. (I'm trying to be benevolent here.) That certainly would have changed the course of history. But how would the younger (later in history) you know that was something you should do, since he wouldn't have had an effect on the new history? I think Dr. Emmett Brown has a good response to this one. I foresee one possibility to you even managing to do that. The change in the course of history could create a time paradox, the result of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space-time continuum and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worst-case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy. what if going back in time creates a whole new timeline, rather than you still existing on the current one? that would explain why going back and changing something would create a whole new future: something that wouldn't make sense in the 'current' timeline because you've already seen the future in it. get what i'm saying?
That scenario would happen if you were to steal Trunks' Time Machine at the risk of him beating the living tar out of you without the need of turning his hair blonde thinking that you are involved with Dr. Gero and the androids. I think it would depend. Is this person a major player in history? Would my taking them or my staying ruin history as we know it now? In those cases, I think I would have to return alone. Also, if I'm sent involuntarily, how do I know that I get to stay? How long do I get to stay? Can I take anyone with me? Did I actually go back in time or did I leap like Dr. Beckett? That depends on if you are using a DeLorean, a Time Train, a TARDIS, or some other form of time machine to travel back in time. Time travel is a mind bender. If you went back in time, wouldn't time already know you did that? Similarly, what if I go back in time to just before I stepped into the time machine? Wouldn't that create an infinite loop, with time just endlessly replaying the period between then and when I re-enter the time machine? Dr. Emmett Brown has an answer this question with a possibility. I foresee one possibility happening in that scenario. The encounter with your past self could create a time paradox, the result of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the space-time continuum and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worst-case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy. If I didn't have anything to hold me back in my original time, I would probably seriously consider it to stay with my love. However, Medieval times are not kind to women, so I'd probably not be happy. Yeah, in medieval times, they may end up declaring that you are a witch and have you burned at the stake.
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Post by Retread on Apr 25, 2019 8:05:47 GMT -8
Maybe? Certainly if you went back in time and you met you, you would already know. But if you didn't meet you, maybe you wouldn't. ... or something like that. 🤔 Very good theory but it would be impossible for you to travel back in time down your own personal timeline. If you meet yourself in the past it would cause a chain reaction to time itself ( In other words a paradox). Each time you travel back in time you would create a crack through the fabric of reality and it is /would be very dangerous if you didn't know what you was doing . Time itself is complicated, history is the same. You cannot change history from/in the past regardless how much you want to. These things are known as "Fixed points in time " and it's very important that you would obey the rules of time travel , i wouldn't say that meeting yourself in the future with time travel would cause a paradox / chain reaction because your future self would know what would happen if he/ she seen the future. Like I said time itself and time travel is very complicated. What's possible or 'impossible' is a matter of conjecture. We're talking science fiction. Or put a different way ... Science Fiction.
Each author presents their own set of rules (and conveniently ignores them when necessary to the plot) in their works. You'll notice significant differences in the 'rules' employed in the Back to the Future series compared to the reboot of Star Trek (Chris Pine et al), and Men in Black 3. To say what with authority what would happen in a fictional world where time travel is possible is rather amusing.
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Post by Pearson on Apr 25, 2019 9:58:45 GMT -8
I have seen Somewhere in Time a couple of times. The film was made from a novel written by Richard Matheson, Bid Time Return. The main character uses self hypnosis to facilitate time travel. "Richard derives his method of time travel from J. B. Priestley's book Man and Time. This method involves performing self-hypnosis to convince his mind that he's in the past. The historical roots of the hotel help reinforce his purpose, as does an 1890s suit he buys." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bid_Time_Return
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Post by Graham on Apr 25, 2019 15:14:33 GMT -8
I find I time travel whenever I look at the night sky.
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Post by Brian Welch on Apr 26, 2019 1:34:28 GMT -8
If I fell in love with someone from a different time period, I would still return to my own time period. I would remember and respect them though.
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