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Post by B.roken D.reams on Jul 2, 2006 5:37:47 GMT -8
From Esther...
Personally, I think having a few boards closed to guests is good. My past experiences with almost all boards open to guests have been bad. Especially on the art board. The art board (if your site has one) should be closed off and only accesed by the members. I've seen numerous attempts at stealing by guests and having the pic or poem up on another site saying they did that piece of art.
Now, having the entire board closed is one thing, but just a few boards I like having them closed to guests. Sure, it makes them curious and wanting to join, but I don't use it as a gimick to get them to join.
And on the closed staff room board. I like this idea, as it gives the staff a place to exchange ideas for the site without imput from the members. It also gives a place so that the staff can form ideas for plots and whatnot. Now, gossiping in the board is just wrong, plain wrong.
These are my opinions. ^^
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Post by britt86 on Jul 2, 2006 6:38:03 GMT -8
I've been running my forum over 2 years now and over the years, I've developed a list of no-nos.
1. Enforce the rules equally. If people see you being lenient on one person and not on others, they'll hit you for favoritism and most people don't like an admin that displays favoritism as it's unfair.
2. Limit the amount of codes you use. Eventually at some point, the codes usage will slow down your board which will get members mad at you. I tend to recommend a few codes that are necessary to make your board look better and maybe a couple of fun ones. Also recognize what codes are probably useless. (For example: the Harry Potter sorting code. You're going to modify their profile anyways, what's the point of having a code that's going to do that same thing you were already doing?)
3. Don't overuse the mass e-mail or mass PM features. I think the mass e-mail feature is good if used like say once a month. This is good because some people forget that they were at your board and an e-mail from the forum might remind them about their membership. If they don't ever come back, remove them from the forum list. (Now, I have an RPG which requires active participation. Lurkers I tend to regard as thiefs since the only reason to join and lurk is to check out some of my hidden areas that have been copied one too many times-just like the rest of my board. )
4. It is better to limit the amount that guests can post on. What's the point of joining a board if anyone can post everywhere as a guest? Plus it limits the amount of spammers you'll get to hit your board if you can take out their mess quickly. I find that opening the board up to be a guest view, but member post works really well. Though there are areas that should just be for members to view.
5. Don't spam advertise your site. It tends to annoy people and if you annoy the wrong person they could come after your site to take it down. I've seen it happen one too many times. That also means be careful who you make staff. Staff can very easily take down a board without many powers since their actions weigh more heavily in a TOS report.
Alright, I'm out of time for right now since I have to go to work, but that's the first several no-nos that I've discovered over the last couple years.
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Post by papalia on Jul 2, 2006 7:06:57 GMT -8
I agree with guest view but not guest post, although for a board like mine, guests need to be able to post if someone wants to ask me something about my website, or if they need help with something to do with html, etc. I wouldn't make people register just to ask a question or two. that annoys people.
However i disagree with the idea that a successful forum needs lots of members. i think this is vain. a forum like mine is successful as long as it helps visitors of my site to give feedback about my site and programs, ask for help with technical things and get their requests/questions answered, etc. however i do allow/welcome members on my forum, then people can have discussions, etc on my forum, which helps to advertise my site and keep the visitor number up (for my website, that is).
so from that, i have 2 more do-nots:
1. Do not blindly think that more members makes a forum more successful. it also has its drawbacks, and is not always necessary for a forum to be successful.
2. if you want feedback on your website, or want to offer technical support, on the feedback or tech support boards, do not restrict it to members, especially if you're gonna get people that only want to ask one or two questions on your forum.
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Post by leah on Jul 2, 2006 7:55:44 GMT -8
Well, I think that it's okay to get feedback on your board from members. Although it's nice to get feedback from others, the members' opinions are the ones that really matter, in my opinion. They're the ones that are on the board. Then again, the people who are giving comments on your board could be the potential members, and potential members' opinions matter as well. That's why, in my opinion, you should have a suggestions board that guests can post in as well. If you correct a few mistakes or change a few things, the potential members that are commenting about your board ON YOUR BOARD (which shows they were interested in joining, or at least looking around) maybe you'll get a new member because you took his suggestions. You never know.
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Post by taikenk on Jul 3, 2006 18:45:00 GMT -8
sorry to dwell in the past but..I had a forum......an open forum, and this guset was there every day and never joined. Then the guest started flaming the forum. that caused me to have a closed forum because I personally do not take flaming too well. well not closed forum but semi open...enough for thr guest to see how it works.
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Post by Ímþ®óvîšâ†ó® on Jul 4, 2006 20:56:18 GMT -8
sorry to dwell in the past but..I had a forum......an open forum, and this guset was there every day and never joined. Then the guest started flaming the forum. that caused me to have a closed forum because I personally do not take flaming too well. well not closed forum but semi open...enough for thr guest to see how it works. Well taikenk, it's ok to feel like you make a mistake. You're a human being, and it isn't a crime to make mistakes like that. It's a way of life It just goes to show that what I said before in my other post, has actually made a point after all... I believe it's best to not have guest posting enabled EVERYWHERE, because otherwise your forum could be in deep jeopardy by spammers (mostly in the form of guests)
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Post by B.roken D.reams on Jul 5, 2006 6:05:08 GMT -8
Yeah, I had a guest, actually 3 guests that came around and posted rather crude things about the site as well as some bad posts and what-not. That site I was a head mod thing-a-majig on, so I was able to make the form inviewable to the guests as well as clean up the form before anybody saw it. I don't know if the admin changed the settings or not, but I believe it's still closed to guests. ^^
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Post by D.ream on Jul 5, 2006 6:32:30 GMT -8
Do Not Be Rude To Your Members
This is especially important. Especially when you have someone who is brand new, and they keep asking you these dumb questions, and you're getting agrivated. Trust me, I've been there. If you had to learn by yourself (like I did), don't let someone else have to do that.
First, try to help them adjust with the new threads and replying. Then they can get started pretty well. Make sure, if you're helping someone, and you feel like telling them to learn by themselves. Just calm down, tell them you will help them, but try not to be mean. Just say you would like them to learn how to do it on their own. Be nice is the main priority.
Second, if you want to help them, but you're getting irritated, take a deep breath and go somewhere else for a little while. Once you get back, you should be feeling better to help that new person.
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As for the guests, I have that too. Don't worry, they should join if they hang out there all the time. If they don't, just kindly ask them why they haven't joined yet.
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Post by D.D on Jul 5, 2006 10:35:24 GMT -8
Do NOT Assign TOO MANY STAFF MEMBERS
That way it will make you and your board look unprofessional
Only only this shows your forum is not popular, also give others the impression that you bribe and lure members in by giving them staff positions.
Also, assigning too much staff members may put your forum in jeopardy. People will start screw around your board settings and modify or even delete your posts!!!
So either way, this will destroy your forum
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Post by BluAngel on Aug 2, 2006 18:44:00 GMT -8
For my board, we have only a few true rules. Most of the "rules" are things that people should be doing anyways, like Be respectful, allow other their opinions, no flaming. The biggest rule we have is don't post anything that violates PB TOS. If you do, that's a big one, and gets a serious warning, or banning, depending on what it is. We've been running on another web forum host, and just moved to here, and brought the same rules over, just edited to reflect PB's TOS instead.
I've let my members know up front that we have the option for Mass Email, but that the likely hood of it actually being used is very slim. I can't really think of too many times it would need to be. I've let them know we have options for Mass PM, and that too will be rare occassions, as I can post most things in the Announcements area, but if I think it's very important and really needs to be read, I will either Mass PM/Email to be sure that all have gotten it and read it.
As for too many Admins/Staff...as I said, we came from another host and there, the only way that staff could actually do the things they needed to be able to do, like approve members, lock/move/delete posts and threads, was to be given Admin status. We're looking into seeing if any of the admins would be willing to take Global Moderator Status, and leave just 3 admins. Myself, and two others, who if anything happens to me (which is possible) can take over the board immediatly. (We have 5 admins with only 9 members total right now, because we're still in the process of moving over to PB.....we expect to have about 30 members within the next 2 weeks if everyone moves over with us, we know we may lose a few by moving, and we'll consider what to do with the extra admins after that).
We intend to create a "Board Admin" that the admins will have access to the account, for when we feel that we need to post something that doesn't identify which admin said it. We did this on our other board, and it worked out very well. There were not a lot of times we needed it, but when we did, the members didn't have one particular person to point fingers at, and knew that it had been a group admin decision, and that pitting one admin against another wasn't going to work. Basically, it stopped problems before they could start.
I think my biggest rule for my board is "Don't forget to have fun".
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Post by RazzaDazDazzle on Aug 3, 2006 13:58:11 GMT -8
I've found that only one skin starts to get boring after a while. Memebers might find to find it too boring, to bright, too dark, or, it's just plain ugly, I'm not sure exactly how many skins to use, everytime I make a skin for my site, it doesn't look good, or the background image is also too boring, or too small. For me, skins are one of the most particular things to watch carefully on.
I really can't show favoritism, my forum only has two active members, myself, and a friend from another forum.
I tend to use many many codes, and I'm starting to forget if I'm even using them. It's pretty easy to get carried away with codes, there's so many out there.
I haven't even posted any rules on my forum, it'd just be a waste of time, active members know the basics of rules, so I really don't ever think about posting rules.
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Post by sterland4england on Aug 15, 2006 13:26:50 GMT -8
I find that if a member has clearly overstepped the line or is having a spat with another the choice of words can be really important in PMs to either calm or diffuse the situation without the need for a warning bar or a temp ban. It is easy to go in heavy handed with 'You CANNOT say that to X as it is against the rules' but that can generally provoke an angry response. The method I find most productive is the way that I talk to my staff at work by planting seeds over numerous PMs and using neutral words and phrases such as 'consider' and 'Have you thought about' .. It is easier to bring a poster back on line by persuading them to acknowledge they have flouted the rules over an exchange of 5 or 6 PMs and using what they respond to each time to form your next message than firing all your weapons at once and turning into a 'he said/shesaid'.
Just a thought....
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Post by queenevilmonkey on Aug 16, 2006 11:19:51 GMT -8
sorry to dwell in the past but..I had a forum......an open forum, and this guset was there every day and never joined. Then the guest started flaming the forum. that caused me to have a closed forum because I personally do not take flaming too well. well not closed forum but semi open...enough for thr guest to see how it works. Well taikenk, it's ok to feel like you make a mistake. You're a human being, and it isn't a crime to make mistakes like that. It's a way of life It just goes to show that what I said before in my other post, has actually made a point after all... I believe it's best to not have guest posting enabled EVERYWHERE, because otherwise your forum could be in deep jeopardy by spammers (mostly in the form of guests) What I do is I just have one boar open to guests and the suggestion board is open to guests. I never have anyone posting there though so it doesn't matter. I'm not a very good advertizer. Anyway, my do nots are simple. Do not discriminate. Do not post explisit sexual content. Do not double post. I forget my other rules...Anyway, I have about 12 rules, and some rules have a part B.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 17, 2006 11:58:39 GMT -8
On my board, the rules are relatively simple as well. Be polite and try to keep it PG. If you HAVE to say something dirty, we set aside a password protected area for members to do just that. Other rules include the best way to handle disputes with other members or even with staff. I think the members benefit by knowing the exact procedure they can use to get something done...even if their beef is with a moderator. My board allows guests to view everything but the password protected area and there is a guest forum where they can post questions and ideas about the board...a nice little lounge where they can sit and ponder about joining. FAVORITISM: My board goes out of its way to NOT be accused of favoritism. I was banned from another board before joining and certain rules were established to keep me out!!! I learned from that and decided that all people can join...and that is why the rules are the only ones necessary. After all, if you get ban happy, you won't HAVE members.
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Post by Ímþ®óvîšâ†ó® on Aug 19, 2006 12:51:15 GMT -8
What I do is I just have one boar open to guests and the suggestion board is open to guests. I never have anyone posting there though so it doesn't matter. I'm not a very good advertizer. Anyway, my do nots are simple. Do not discriminate. Do not post explisit sexual content. Do not double post. I forget my other rules...Anyway, I have about 12 rules, and some rules have a part B. There are only 3 things that a board opened to guest posting can generate: - Spamming/Advertising (being the most common)
- Banning restrictions (only banning by ip)
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- Flaming/Trolling
Besides I bet most of the time guests visit a forum, is to cause chaos and if the forum-in-discussion doesn't allow advertising, then there's no stopping the guest/s from advertising in a cbox or a shoutbox if that's available, because then the only consequence they could get is an ip ban, which for dial-up users is pretty easy to bypass because the ip address changes after every connection is made. Do not overdo the codes! Most boards I go to have about 20 codes, and there are a lot of codes that actually make the forum look a lot worse. For example, those hideous "Welcome table" codes are a complete waste of space. Everyone reads them once... and after that, no one needs to see them again, but every single time a page loads it's there taking up space. Info Center codes can be the same way -- I don't care how many posts there are per board or categories you create per day, you don't need to split each individual divison of staff members into their own special class in Users Online, and I'm not interested in seeing an endless stream of affiliate buttons scroll by. Besides taking up space, some codes take up time -- so much time it takes about two minutes for each page to load. And I have DSL. Main point: Use small, tasteful codes. ;D But I'm not gonna stop there. I have a lot more complaining to do ;D Something that really bothers me is when forums have way too many boards. Having 300 boards is awesome, but is anyone going to post in each one? Combine similar boards together, like this: Suggestions board, Questions board, Comments board, and Complaints board all combine into one "Forum Comments" board. Isn't that nice? ;D You can find out which boards to combine by looking at topic/post totals. Boards that have lower post totals than the rest and are surrounded by similar boards should probably be combined. Also, try to have about the same number of boards in each category. I can't stand seeing a category with 4 boards, then one with 9, then a category with 1 board (that's really pushing me ), then 7, then 2. Try to stay consistent, it will make your first page flow a lot smoother. Also, keep each board alive. Don't have one board where the newest post is from Yesterday, followed by another board where the newest post is from April 2004. If your board looks active, more people will want to join. Very good points there mate I 100% agree with all that because I know a few forums with so many boards that they even make a board for each graphic artist so that their graphics are shown better, that to me, makes at harder to scroll down to the login area (except for just putting a code in to move it to the top). The point you made about codes is valid, because as a matter of fact, forums that have TOO MUCH coding may not get enough members to join (maybe guests but that's it), because they'll probably refuse to visit a site that has so many codes implemented for the sake of showing it off.
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