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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 11:38:46 GMT -8
That's the joy of Christianity. You are free to use your faith however you want. You aren't restricted to just pure science and you have to believe what has tons of proof. We, however, are free to decide for ourselves if we wish to believe something or not. So basically, because you're Christian you could walk around believing dragons are real and there are powerful wizards whose sole duty is to slay them over the planes of great kingdoms? Where do I sign up? How do you know Robert isn't a dragon ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png) I have my doubts!!!
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Post by Robyn on Jan 25, 2011 15:10:02 GMT -8
If you guys wish to take it seriously I would as well. But now you're just throwing bricks at the wall without properly placing them in a neat line first.
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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 15:20:25 GMT -8
If you guys wish to take it seriously I would as well. But now you're just throwing bricks at the wall without properly placing them in a neat line first. Okay. Justify the 1st Commandment.
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Post by Robyn on Jan 25, 2011 15:23:58 GMT -8
If you guys wish to take it seriously I would as well. But now you're just throwing bricks at the wall without properly placing them in a neat line first. Okay. Justify the 1st Commandment. It says what it says. Not happy? Complain to God. It's not my problem.
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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 15:29:29 GMT -8
I believe in God. I don't believe God created it. I think this is a guy who decided to add something to the truth for his own benefit.
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Post by Hope Faith Love on Jan 25, 2011 15:32:43 GMT -8
I believe in God. I don't believe God created it. I think this is a guy who decided to add something to the truth for his own benefit. You also said this to me in PM and I forgot to respond to it so I shall respond to it here. I don't think it's man created. I believe that the scriptures as they are now, are the inspired inerrant word of God which is a typical trait of an Elim Pentecostalist. I believe that God would do it because worshipping idols not only offends God since that is what sin is: an act that offends God and not only that, praying to idols would be detrimental for the people. God helps people who call upon his name.
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Post by Former Member on Jan 25, 2011 15:33:18 GMT -8
I believe in God. I don't believe God created it. I think this is a guy who decided to add something to the truth for his own benefit. ...that means this argument has a huge gap in legitimacy then...how in the world can you argue on mere speculation in the first place? Someone explain that.
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Post by Sandy Pines on Jan 25, 2011 16:06:16 GMT -8
And what's to say science isn't the explanation as to how God does things? Science doesn't disprove God if that's what you're getting at. While the argument that God created science to govern the universe is a fun one to contemplate it is the second part of this quote I have a problem with. You are correct. Science doesn't disprove God. BUT Religion doesn't prove God. Science has found no evidence to disprove God. But science also hasn't found any evidence to support God either. Reading a 1600 year old book about a 6000 year old planet written by people who didn't understand gravity, or the shape of the earth, or why the tide goes in and out is not a valid excuse for the existence of God. Especially when the methodologies of science are constantly seeking new and better answers to all questions, the stale, never changing, never seeking new knowledge mindset of religion is numbing and should be heavily questioned by everyone. Is science right about everything? No. Will science constantly strive to not only increase the amount of knowledge the human race is aware of but will also constantly disprove and improve itself in the process? Yes. Will religion do the same? No. It won't. It has decided it's already right. Intelligent design is real. Religions use it. And not to explain creation. The religions themselves are intelligently designed by their creators. Most important attributes for survival of a religion. 1. It must grow. So send out people to convert others. Convert children before they can make informed choices. 2. It must not shrink. Make sure people are afraid to leave it. Persecute those not in it. Tell people they have a choice but don't let them make any. 3. It must be believed. Teach people questioning it is bad. 4. It must not be disproven. Utilize faith in place of fact. Teach application of logic everywhere but at church. 5. It must appear positive. Push positive messages for everyday life. Find concepts people can relate to. Fill a void in people who are open to suggestion or are mentally or emotionally compromised (the sick, injured, and imprisoned for example often find religion on their own). 6. It must not have competitors. Reinforce peace while killing others in the name of your religion. 7. It must be served. Give people jobs to do in the name of the religion. This includes regular worship or praying to reinforce everything within the religion. Constant repeated reminders are absolutely necessary for faith to take effect. If you follow those guidelines you can make your own religion that will survive for more than a 1000 years. The more mysterious you make it, the more power you can have in explaining it and the more faith you can generate to defending it. It's history, the more finely tuned your religion is to these attributes the more successful it has been historically. Direct correlation. The opening post has nothing to do with God being afraid. It has everything to do with keeping membership numbers up.Sorry for the long wait - busiest time of year for me. I understand that, God cannot be proven or disproven. This isn't the first time you've posted something similar to this to me, and this isn't the first time that I've agreed with you that God can't be proved or disproved. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I realize you can't remember everything you've posted or everyone that you talked because of the vast number of members on this site, so I'm just letting you know. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 16:06:45 GMT -8
I believe in God. I don't believe God created it. I think this is a guy who decided to add something to the truth for his own benefit. ...that means this argument has a huge gap in legitimacy then...how in the world can you argue on mere speculation in the first place? Someone explain that. Speculation? Really? Well why don't you explain why God is afraid of losing membership? What is he doing? Running a forum?
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Post by Robyn on Jan 25, 2011 16:11:18 GMT -8
...that means this argument has a huge gap in legitimacy then...how in the world can you argue on mere speculation in the first place? Someone explain that. Speculation? Really? Well why don't you explain why God is afraid of losing membership? What is he doing? Running a forum? If you sent all of your children somewhere far away and knew that many would never come back, wouldn't you be afraid for them?
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Post by Julia on Jan 25, 2011 17:23:41 GMT -8
That is a good thought, Robert. God is a jealous god, his most human quality if you ask me.
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Post by Former Member on Jan 25, 2011 18:01:21 GMT -8
That is a good thought, Robert. God is a jealous god, his most human quality if you ask me. "For the LORD your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; otherwise the anger of the LORD your God will be kindled against you, and He will wipe you off the face of the earth." Deuteronomy 6:15
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Post by Kami on Jan 25, 2011 18:14:05 GMT -8
That is a good thought, Robert. God is a jealous god, his most human quality if you ask me. "For the LORD your God in the midst of you is a jealous God; otherwise the anger of the LORD your God will be kindled against you, and He will wipe you off the face of the earth." Deuteronomy 6:15how lovely. >_>;'
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Post by Robyn on Jan 25, 2011 18:22:25 GMT -8
That is a good thought, Robert. God is a jealous god, his most human quality if you ask me. Well He IS flesh and bone...
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Post by AndrettiFan on Jan 25, 2011 18:26:45 GMT -8
That is a good thought, Robert. God is a jealous god, his most human quality if you ask me. Well He IS flesh and bone... Where did you read that?
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