Mafia! Game 5 (After Party)

[Trill]

I was also thinking Mr. Spartan. I didn't want to post my vote with my observations as it would make it seem there was some bias. I was going to vote for Mr. Spartan anyway, so...

Mr. Spartan

[Ren Rudner]

I don't understand why certain people keep telling everyone that Robert's dead when he's on the living list...

[Trill]

Even Robert said he was dead... which is very suspicious. Think it's a strategy to get him to the end of the game undetected?

The evidence against him is circumstantial, but it is evidence nonetheless. Should we vote for Mr. Spartan, who we have some solid evidence about voting patters now, then Robert next round?

[Girl Dale]

Argh. I don't time today to fully participate, so to help out, I vote majority.

[Phaelyn]

Aether, is robert still alive?

I was dumb and took his word for it, I'll search through the thread now

For now majority because i have absolutely no idea for this round...

[Phaelyn]

It appears Robert's not dead; I just went through every single one of Aether's posts in this thread, nothing on him dying.

If others are prepared to vote for robert very soon, I'll go with it, but since it's nearing the end of the day (I think) I'll stay majority till a few more of you can vote with me.

[Pepper]

Feb 18, 2011 17:59:28 GMT -8 Phaelyn said:

It appears Robert's not dead; I just went through every single one of Aether's posts in this thread, nothing on him dying.

If others are prepared to vote for robert very soon, I'll go with it, but since it's nearing the end of the day (I think) I'll stay majority till a few more of you can vote with me.

The only time he ever really 'died' was in Adam's dream in one of the first ten pages, I can't remember which one it was. So unless he's taking staying in character for something to do with that really far, he's definitely suspicious.

[Dove]

My suspicion was mr. Spartan as well, when a few "days" ago I noted I had suspicions but didn't want to post because if not tangible proof. His voting style is what set him off for me. He tried posting plans that seemed too much of a mafia post, trying to remain inconspicuous.

However I will give him a chance for redemption, because we don't need to lynch another villager.

[Trill]

Exactly, and I would also like to hear from Robert why he has been pretending he's dead...

[Mr. Spartan]

...

I was thinking that doing that too much was going to look bad eventually (retracting votes and such). go ahead and vote for me, but it won't get you guys anywhere since I'm a villager. of course there's absolutely no proof besides my word, but there you go.

as for what I do know, I was talking to Trill about who could possibly be mafia. I suggested that there were two admins as mafia, since the whole Patrick dying early was on purpose. Now that I look at who's voting for me, it seems that Trill might be one. didn't seem too surprised when I told him what I thought.

Trill

EDIT: also, that list could be to try and throw us off. it takes awhile to go through all the posts just to find everything that each person did. suspicious to me.

[Trill]

That just makes me suspect you more.

Let's look at the facts.

First you voted for Patrick after a bunch of others already did. It was becoming clear that he was going to be fired anyway. So mafia would jump on the bandwagon to avoid suspicion and vote out a fellow mafia member. However, as soon as someone brought up a reasonable doubt about Patrick being mafia, you retracted your vote, probably hoping to save Patrick to see if he had a chance of surviving.

Tried to protect the first known mafia member.

Later, in Day 4 you jumped on Phaelyn after Ryan's (mafia) accusations. After you voted for Phaelyn, who any mafia would know was a villager, you switched your vote to the Majority when it was obviously clear at the moment that Phaelyn had the most votes against her. Then there were votes for Ryan and it was a close battle between Phae and Ryan, which is when you switched your vote back to Phaelyn when Ryan was receiving more votes.

Tried to protect the second known mafia member.

Sure, there's a chance you aren't mafia. However, given the probability that we know two mafia in hindsight and that you only protected these two players in one form or another, chances are you're mafia.

Feb 18, 2011 19:32:42 GMT -8 Mr. Spartan said:

EDIT: also, that list could be to try and throw us off. it takes awhile to go through all the posts just to find everything that each person did. suspicious to me.

Wow, it's so suspicious that I actually looked back at previous votes and actions so I can make an informed decision. I encourage you to find anything in the list that's wrong or anything hugely significant that's missing. The list is not biased; I even included facts about me that I wish I hadn't done earlier in the game.

[Mr. Spartan]

you're better with words then i am but all I can keep saying is that I'm not mafia. if no one believes me, then oh well. last time i played I was lucky enough to trust Bagheera, who happened to be the detective. that's the only way I stayed alive in it. I drew absolutely no suspicion to me during the game.

one of us is mafia. I know I'm not. unless it's going to be a repeat of me and Dom in WTB, then we're screwed.

[Trill]

Feb 18, 2011 20:33:39 GMT -8 Mr. Spartan said:

one of us is mafia.

False, unless if you are. Can't people have suspicions and vote based on these and some reasonable evidence without being mafia? If you aren't mafia, it doesn't mean I am. It just means I was flawed in suspecting you.

Also, I will reiterate that I did not vote for you until after Andrea already did after looking at the voting pattern facts. Does that mean Andrea's mafia too? No, it just means that we both came to the same conclusion based on your past actions in the game.

[Mr. Spartan]

Feb 18, 2011 20:39:19 GMT -8 Trill said:

Feb 18, 2011 20:33:39 GMT -8 Mr. Spartan said:

one of us is mafia.

False, unless if you are. Can't people have suspicions and vote based on these and some reasonable evidence without being mafia? If you aren't mafia, it doesn't mean I am. It just means I was flawed in suspecting you.

Also, I will reiterate that I did not vote for you until after Andrea already did after looking at the voting pattern facts. Does that mean Andrea's mafia too? No, it just means that we both came to the same conclusion based on your past actions in the game.

good point. I'm going to keep my vote on you anyways, since there really isn't anyone else I feel could be mafia at this moment. there are a few people who haven't been as vocal that could quite possibly be them. never know, since they switch it up every game.

[Trill]

May I ask why you're voting for me, please? I've cited several reasons for voting for you, but your vote seems to be an uninformed retaliation, no offense.