Requesting a Complete Spanish Template

[Chris]

Sept 19, 2013 12:03:48 GMT -8 яλíĐєn said:

Ok,
If i say something it's because I've tested it and didn't need to waste time on posting and asking for help through private messages.
I like proboards i really do.
Now check my forum and test it yourself. See that it causes errors and looks awkward...
gamersunitycommunity.proboards.com/

If you already did the leg work then sharing what you discovered would help. I have no knowledge of your forum and probably nobody knows it better than you so listing problems encountered with Google would be a wiser, time-saving move than me skipping around looking for the yellow brick road. Those who do not know the past are doomed to repeat it which is why I am insisting on knowing. You asked for my help in the middle of an ongoing request so I obviously need to be brought up to speed, not given the "on a need to know basis" treatment because frankly I need to know.

In my opinion building a plugin that does what Google already does far more efficiently makes no sense. Instead of trying to build a shorter mountain if the mountain Google gave you is too tall the smarter move would be to try and shave some off the top of that  mountain.  It would be far easier to shave the mountain down rather than exert energy trying to build a miniMe version of it.

Sept 19, 2013 12:10:08 GMT -8 яλíĐєn said:

Also i want the forum in Spanish not the content we type in.
And google translate translates everything...

Preventing content translation would be as easy as going into your templates and adding a class that tells Google to skip that element (part of that shave the mountain approach I spoke of ?)

[яλíĐєn]

Sept 19, 2013 13:55:23 GMT -8 Chris said:

Sept 19, 2013 12:03:48 GMT -8 яλíĐєn said:

Ok,
If i say something it's because I've tested it and didn't need to waste time on posting and asking for help through private messages.
I like proboards i really do.
Now check my forum and test it yourself. See that it causes errors and looks awkward...
gamersunitycommunity.proboards.com/

If you already did the leg work then sharing what you discovered would help. I have no knowledge of your forum and probably nobody knows it better than you so listing problems encountered with Google would be a wiser, time-saving move than me skipping around looking for the yellow brick road. Those who do not know the past are doomed to repeat it which is why I am insisting on knowing. You asked for my help in the middle of an ongoing request so I obviously need to be brought up to speed, not given the "on a need to know basis" treatment because frankly I need to know.

In my opinion building a plugin that does what Google already does far more efficiently makes no sense. Instead of trying to build a shorter mountain if the mountain Google gave you is too tall the smarter move would be to try and shave some off the top of that  mountain.  It would be far easier to shave the mountain down rather than exert energy trying to build a miniMe version of it.

Sept 19, 2013 12:10:08 GMT -8 яλíĐєn said:

Also i want the forum in Spanish not the content we type in.
And google translate translates everything...

Preventing content translation would be as easy as going into your templates and adding a class that tells Google to skip that element (part of that shave the mountain approach I spoke of ?)

Let me make something vary clear!
I honestly don't know what I even have on my own forum. Only know that the plugins work and the forum itself.
Meaning you insinst on something I have no knowledge... Besides what can only be seen. You are the programmer and dwell inside things i can't comprehend.. And frankly i sent you the private convo with everything to be known... Thanks to Stinky showed me something new to me.

Here's a punch

1st Image it moves the edit options on shoutbox

2nd doesent translates everything

3rd is the same as second

4th I am clueless why i added this image. Disregard this one

5th This is a perfect example what it does to the plugins...

[Chris]

Sept 19, 2013 14:26:14 GMT -8 яλíĐєn said:

Let me make something vary clear!
I honestly don't know what I even have on my own forum. Only know that the plugins work and the forum itself. Meaning you insinst on something I have no knowledge... Besides what can only be seen. You are the programmer and dwell inside things i can't comprehend.. And frankly i sent you the private convo with everything to be known... Thanks to Stinky showed me something new to me.

Here's a punch

1st Image it moves the edit options on shoutbox

Another case of placing a template class on shoutbox details area. Excavate the mountain don't build a new one.

<span class="details skiptranslate">
		$[shoutbox_post.ban_button]
		$[shoutbox_post.edit_button]
		$[shoutbox_post.created_on]
		{if $[shoutbox_post.edited]}<span class="edited">*</span>{/if}
</span>

2nd doesent translates everything

Place holder text can be converted by first setting them to real attribute values then putting them back after conversion

Do not copy for demonstration purpose only
(use your own code that Google gave you)
Add the purple lines to your own code

<script type="text/javascript">
$('input[placeholder],textarea[placeholder]').each(function(){
	var th = $(this)
	if(th.val() == "" && th.attr('placeholder').length){th.attr("title",th.attr('placeholder'));th.data('hasplaceholder',true)}
})
function googleTranslateElementInit() {
	new google.translate.TranslateElement({pageLanguage: 'eo', layout: google.translate.TranslateElement.InlineLayout.SIMPLE, autoDisplay: false}, 'google_translate_element');
}
</script><script type="text/javascript" src="//translate.google.com/translate_a/element.js?cb=googleTranslateElementInit"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
$('input[placeholder],textarea[placeholder]').each(function(){
	var th =this, $th = $(this), ac = arguments.callee
	if(!$th.data('hasplaceholder'))return true;
	if($th.attr('placeholder')== $th.attr('title')){return !!setTimeout(function(){ac.call(th);},500)}
	$th.attr('placeholder',$th.attr("title"));
	$th.removeData('hasplaceholder')
})
</script>

3rd is the same as second

The third image I posted shows that menu completely translated even down to IP submenus so that one deserves further inspection but I wouldn't know about it unless you told me about it, see how that works? If you don't know your own forum then I who has never laid eyes on it certainly would not.

4th I am clueless why i added this image. Disregard this one

123...

5th This is a perfect example what it does to the plugins...

This one you'll need to explain. It might seem obvious as a stain on a carpet to you but if I have never seen that carpet before it might just look like part of the carpet's decorative pattern to me. Things that have looked completely wrong to me have appeared perfectly fine to the person that designed it and vice versa so don't assume I am standing there over your shoulder eavesdropping on your mutterings regarding the problems you see. I have to be told! especially when it's something subjective such as a color being suddenly off a couple shades or a border being dashed ... that could be on purpose!

[яλíĐєn]

I am still not understanding you...
Help or no help...

[Chris]

The answers are there all you need to do is read then take action
If something is unclear then ask for clarification

1. The code Google gives you after you've configured your site translator comes in two parts
   
   
   
   
   
2. Both parts can go into your Forum Wrapper Layout Template
   The top goes above the </head>
   
   
   
3. This part of the code which is bunched in with the bottom part<div id="google_translate_element"></div>
   is where the translation selector appears and does not need to be with the bottom part of the code. You can move it anywhere you wish. For example, I wanted it up where the Home, Admin, etc. menus are so I added it there in forum wrapper by providing an addition set of <li></li> then dropping it in there
   
   
4. It is important that the bottom part of the code goes at the very bottom of the forum wrapper so it runs after everything else, the button part (see 3) can go anywhere you wish
   
   
   
   
   
   You'll also notice that certain elements that have the new html5 placeholder attribute (which disappears once you click on the element) additional code has been added to allow those to be translated as well. The purple indicates lines that were added to the bottom part of the code Google gave you

   <script type="text/javascript">
   $('input[placeholder],textarea[placeholder]').each(function(){
   var th = $(this)
   if(th.val() == "" && th.attr('placeholder').length){th.attr("title",th.attr('placeholder'));th.data('hasplaceholder',true)}
   })
   function googleTranslateElementInit() {
   new google.translate.TranslateElement({pageLanguage: 'eo', layout: google.translate.TranslateElement.InlineLayout.SIMPLE, autoDisplay: false}, 'google_translate_element');
   }
   </script><script type="text/javascript" src="//translate.google.com/translate_a/element.js?cb=googleTranslateElementInit"></script>
   <script type="text/javascript">
   $('input[placeholder],textarea[placeholder]').each(function(){
   var th =this, $th = $(this), ac = arguments.callee
   if(!$th.data('hasplaceholder'))return true;
   if($th.attr('placeholder')== $th.attr('title')){return !!setTimeout(function(){ac.call(th);},500)}
   $th.attr('placeholder',$th.attr("title"));
   $th.removeData('hasplaceholder')
   })
   </script>

   
   
   
5. If you do not wish contents written by your members to be translated then go into your threads layout template and on the post list tab add the "skiptranslate" class to the <tr> element. Do the same for conversations
   
   
   
   
   
6. You can do the same for anything you do not want translated. For example to protect the shoutbox ban/edit/date details go into your shoutbox template layout and add the "skiptranslate" class