Thread Icons [v0.1.17 Updated on 15-Feb 2020]

[NWRP Staff]

Hmm, my best guess is that my theme was playing with the classes somehow?

But your suggestion to change the Address to .icon img did work! The only thing is that Append and Prepend settings don't work when I do it this way... but that is just a small thing.

Thank you for your help

[Chris]

Jul 10, 2020 11:33:57 GMT -8 NWRP Staff said:

Hmm, my best guess is that my theme was playing with the classes somehow?

But your suggestion to change the Address to .icon img did work! The only thing is that Append and Prepend settings don't work when I do it this way... but that is just a small thing.

Thank you for your help

Append/prepend would not work because an image is an embed which cannot have anything nested within. If you want to use append/prepend then you would need to target something that can have something within it such as a cell or div. This is labelled "advanced" because it requires workable knowledge of HTML and CSS to use and for those without such knowledge the default values are supplied to make configuration a no-brainer.
 
You are welcome :)

[Bob]

Hmm, I'm resurrecting a four-year-old thread here, so I'm not sure I'll get a response.

The problem I'm having is that my hover pics are way too large. There seems to be a possible solution given on page 5 of this thread, but it's Greek to me.
Any suggestions?

Edit: My images that are on an image file server are typically 1440x900, which the ProBoard software automatically shrinks to fit the page.
The odd thing is that the hover function of this plugin shrinks down some of the pics to a perfect viewing size, while others stay way too big. I don't know why there's that difference.

Would simply reducing the size of my pics on the image file server resolve this issue? I'd have to resize about 300 pics, but I could do it in batches, so it's doable. Also, no one other than me will ever have the ability to add thread icons, so this is not something I'll ever have to worry about members messing with.

(I'm still building my forum, and it won't go "Live" for probably a couple more weeks, so I have time to mess with this if need be.)

[Chris]

Jun 24, 2024 14:10:37 GMT -8 Bob said:

Hmm, I'm resurrecting a four-year-old thread here, so I'm not sure I'll get a response.

The problem I'm having is that my hover pics are way too large. There seems to be a possible solution given on page 5 of this thread, but it's Greek to me.
Any suggestions?

Edit: My images that are on an image file server are typically 1440x900, which the ProBoard software automatically shrinks to fit the page.
The odd thing is that the hover function of this plugin shrinks down some of the pics to a perfect viewing size, while others stay way too big. I don't know why there's that difference.

Would simply reducing the size of my pics on the image file server resolve this issue? I'd have to resize about 300 pics, but I could do it in batches, so it's doable. Also, no one other than me will ever have the ability to add thread icons, so this is not something I'll ever have to worry about members messing with.

(I'm still building my forum, and it won't go "Live" for probably a couple more weeks, so I have time to mess with this if need be.)

A pure CSS solution is very likely but a link to the forum (guest viewable) on which such CSS will be deployed would be necessary in order to assess the CSS combatants and formulate a battle plan that would lead to victory.

FTW!

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Edit:

Jun 29, 2024 22:29:51 GMT -8 Chris said:

Add the following to your global Header

<style>

#tiptip_holder #tiptip_content img{
   max-width:200px;
   max-height:300px;
}

</style>

*adjust the numbers to your taste

[Bob]

Are thread icons not visible to Guests? I'd like them to be visible to Guests. I don't see a setting anywhere that adresses this.

Never mind, figured it out.

[Eton Bones]

Aug 14, 2024 7:01:10 GMT -8 Bob said:

Are thread icons not visible to Guests? I'd like them to be visible to Guests. I don't see a setting anywhere that adresses this.

Never mind, figured it out.

Aug 26, 2024 20:07:48 GMT -8 Eton Bones said:

Aug 26, 2024 16:34:17 GMT -8 danteblackmetal said:

I found out if I change this particular setting: 

SPOILER: Click to show

... then guests can see the icons (I checked in a private tab). Is there any way to make so guests can SEE thread icons, without giving them the ability to SET thread icons?

Guests can only set an icon if they have the ability to create a thread on that board. Without that essential forum permission, that setting only allows VIEW icons.

[Bob]

Is there any way to make so guests can SEE thread icons, without giving them the ability to SET thread icons?

That's what I was looking to do, but then realized that Guests would not be able to start threads at all in the boards in question, so the thread icon issue became irrelevant.

Now, this works for me in my forum, because all but one of my boards is "Reply Only" or "Locked", including the Boards where I've set thread icons. The one board in my forum that does allow Members (not Guests) to start threads does not allow thread icons to be set at all, so the issue is irrelevant there too. Essentially, on my forum, only I can set thread icons because only I can start threads on the boards where they are used.

But my forum is not the norm, because I use it mainly to showcase my custom content creations for a computer game, not for general discussions. For most forums that have a lot of discussions and a lot of threads being started, the issue of allowing Guests to see thread icons but to not being able to set them might be more important. My forum.

[Eton Bones]

1. When option is disabled in the plugin, it excludes guests from viewing the icons
   
2. When option is enabled in the plugin, it allows guests to view the icons
   
3. When option is disabled in the plugin and guests can start new threads, they cannot set icons
   
4. When option is enabled in the plugin and guests can start new threads, they can set icons
   

Note: This was not the case in older versions before the requirement to save the post first was added in order to properly set the thread icon. Before that, choosing an icon immediately set it, leading to unnecessary server AJAX requests and some synchronization bugs.

Guest Icon Permissions Matrix
plugin option "Allow guests to set a thread icon"	Can create threads	Can see icons	Can set icons
enabled	no	🗹 yes	☐  no
enabled	yes	🗹 yes	🗹 yes
disabled	no	☐  no	☐  no
disabled	yes	☐  no	☐  no

[Bob]

Just to be clear, the "option" you're referring to is this one:

Guests, even if they are allowed to post are by default not allowed to set a thread icon. You check the following option below to allow them to do so

Allow guests to set a thread icon

Correct?

The problem with your summary is:

3) When option is disabled in the plugin and guests can start new threads, they cannot set icons

The problem is that they also cannot view the icons.
Ideally, there should be a way for Guests to view icons without being able to set them. None of your choices, or any combination of them, allow Guests to do that.

[Eton Bones]

Aug 26, 2024 23:33:50 GMT -8 Bob said:

Just to be clear, the "option" you're referring to is this one:

Guests, even if they are allowed to post are by default not allowed to set a thread icon. You check the following option below to allow them to do so

Allow guests to set a thread icon

Correct?

The problem with your summary is:

3) When option is disabled in the plugin and guests can start new threads, they cannot set icons

The problem is that they also cannot view the icons.

They can view the icons if you enable the option. The option that dictates whether they can set an icon is their ability to create a thread in tandem with the option being enabled.

If you allow guests to create potentially malicious threads with potentially offensive subject lines but draw the line at them choosing an image from a set of images you provided in a menu then you can simply make sure the images in that menu are associated with a group and since guests can never be part of a group they won't get any icons to set in that menu but can still create threads as it says further down in the settings...

"Note: If you allow guests to set thread icons but use an include group list then guests will not be able to set an icon since they are never part of a group"

You can also create special icons for specific groups on the ICONS tab that would appear as choices for some people and not for others

Aug 26, 2024 23:33:50 GMT -8 Bob said:

Ideally, there should be a way for Guests to view icons without being able to set them. None of your choices, or any combination of them, allow Guests to do that.

Aug 26, 2024 23:18:18 GMT -8 Eton Bones said:

2. When option is enabled in the plugin, it allows guests to view the icons
   

I thought that was pretty clear, option 4 is what allows a guest to set an icon.

[Bob]

"Note: If you allow guests to set thread icons but use an include group list then guests will not be able to set an icon since they are never part of a group"

Okay, I understand now. I would have to make Members a group because they are not a group by default. I'd forgotten about that because unlike Administrators, Global Moderators and Moderators, they do not appear as a group in the plugin - but I could make them a group.
Okay, that would work.
Thank you for that clarification.