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Post by Goodnight Vienna on Jun 30, 2005 12:32:18 GMT -8
Can you PROVE homosexuality is normal? Tired lines of assumptions? So its not FACT that men & women are biologically suited to sex? Why are you not understanding this? Hey look lets just leave it as its my opinion, if it makes you feel better label me a homophobe who is just being argumentative, because quite clearly we are going around in circles. He never denied that of being fact. And it is you who keeps it going in circles. Instead of offering the odd little petulant sentance against me, try offering FACTS to prove i am wrong when i say about men & women having the correct biological make up for sex & homosexuals having the wrong biological make up to have sex together.
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Post by Goodnight Vienna on Jun 30, 2005 12:33:37 GMT -8
Didnt say you did call me a homophobe, i can just see where its heading, my right wing views on this are not liked by many liberals & often ends in the homophobe slur , its just i present FACTS about men & women being suited for sex & that being normal & homosexuals not being suited for sex, hence being abnormal! Was an opinion based entirely on the biological make up of men & women! But your assumption that 1. there has to be a normal and an abnormal in sexuality and 2. that homosexuality must be abnormal are not based on biological fact. I'm offended that you would think I would call you a homophobe. Why be offended? I offered no abuse, anyway where did i say YOU WOULD call me a homophobe, i merely offered you to call me one!
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Post by BEAST on Jun 30, 2005 12:33:56 GMT -8
He never denied that of being fact. And it is you who keeps it going in circles. Instead of offering the odd little petulant sentance against me, try offering FACTS to prove i am wrong when i say about men & women having the correct biological make up for sex & homosexuals having the wrong biological make up to have sex together. Perhaps love is more than just sex?
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Post by Zephyr on Jun 30, 2005 12:35:54 GMT -8
But your assumption that 1. there has to be a normal and an abnormal in sexuality and 2. that homosexuality must be abnormal are not based on biological fact. I'm offended that you would think I would call you a homophobe. Why be offended? I offered no abuse, anyway where did i say YOU WOULD call me a homophobe, i merely offered you to call me one! the suggestion that I would eventually call you a homophobe was clear, don't try and get out of it by pointing out that you used words such as "many". anyway, back on the topic.
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Post by Goodnight Vienna on Jun 30, 2005 12:39:10 GMT -8
Instead of offering the odd little petulant sentance against me, try offering FACTS to prove i am wrong when i say about men & women having the correct biological make up for sex & homosexuals having the wrong biological make up to have sex together. Perhaps love is more than just sex?Of course love is more than just sex, i am merely offering my explanations about why I think relations between men & women is normal, & it has been considered that way since time began, you dont see threads about men & women having sex as ABNORMAL do you (unless is way kinky, but thats another story ;D ), so what does that tell you.
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Post by JBM Leaving, not gonna be back on Jun 30, 2005 12:41:40 GMT -8
Let's get this straight people. Your opinion belongs to you, some agree, some disagree, but regardless of what your opinions are, it's law in Canada now, you can't change it, I can't change it, what's done is done. Coming from me, who has lived in a province where gay marriage is legal and has been for about one year. The province isn't underpopulated, and whoever thought of that stupid idea is wrong, it's not a big deal. Let them get married. It has nothing to do with you, nothing to do with me. Eventually this will become law in the U.S and in the U.K, it will eventually and there is no need to have a debate when it becomes law then, what should happen with this thread is you state your opinion and leave, it is not necessary to attempt to get others to agree with your views, they won't change their views on behalf of you. This topic has gone off topic, it's all about "call me a homophobe". If you don't like this law, too bad, deal with it, it's law here now.
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Post by Goodnight Vienna on Jun 30, 2005 12:41:53 GMT -8
Why be offended? I offered no abuse, anyway where did i say YOU WOULD call me a homophobe, i merely offered you to call me one! the suggestion that I would eventually call you a homophobe was clear, don't try and get out of it by pointing out that you used words such as "many". anyway, back on the topic. Why should i try to get out of anything, i have done nothing wrong, odd statement!
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Post by Zephyr on Jun 30, 2005 12:43:57 GMT -8
the suggestion that I would eventually call you a homophobe was clear, don't try and get out of it by pointing out that you used words such as "many". anyway, back on the topic. Why should i try to get out of anything, i have done nothing wrong, odd statement! You can't honestly call that an odd statement... it's clear what you're trying to get out of... I mean your previous post is about what you claim not to have done...
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Post by Goodnight Vienna on Jun 30, 2005 12:47:51 GMT -8
Let's get this straight people. Your opinion belongs to you, some agree, some disagree, but regardless of what your opinions are, it's law in Canada now, you can't change it, I can't change it, what's done is done. Coming from me, who has lived in a province where gay marriage is legal and has been for about one year. The province isn't underpopulated, and whoever thought of that stupid idea is wrong, it's not a big deal. Let them get married. It has nothing to do with you, nothing to do with me. Eventually this will become law in the U.S and in the U.K, it will eventually and there is no need to have a debate when it becomes law then, what should happen with this thread is you state your opinion and leave, it is not necessary to attempt to get others to agree with your views, they won't change their views on behalf of you. This topic has gone off topic, it's all about "call me a homophobe". If you don't like this law, too bad, deal with it, it's law here now. Fair comment mate, but then again, i am only replying to comments aimed at me, i am putting across my views in a non offensive way (not saying others are being offensive before anyone starts), its only my opinions & these boards are here for debate.
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Post by Goodnight Vienna on Jun 30, 2005 12:50:15 GMT -8
Why should i try to get out of anything, i have done nothing wrong, odd statement! You can't honestly call that an odd statement... it's clear what you're trying to get out of... I mean your previous post is about what you claim not to have done... Calm down, take it easy, i not been abusive to ya, let it drop so this thread dont turn ridiculous. I will refrain from posting anymore comments here as i am too controversial it seems.
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Post by richndanapoint on Jun 30, 2005 12:54:34 GMT -8
It can also be the end of a country. Empires have fallen because of it. Rome and Persia both fell after it was socially okay to be gay. Canada has just made it harder for itself to survive. This should be very enlightening coming from an individual who has no concept of cause and effect. Please tell us how the destruction of Pompeii had everything to do with homosexuality and nothing to do with volcanic eruption of Mount Vesuvius. From there, I would be interested in reading your thesis concerning homsexuality and the Fall of the Roman Empire.
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It can also be the end of a country. Empires have fallen because of it. Rome and Persia both fell after it was socially okay to be gay. Canada has just made it harder for itself to survive. This should be very enlightening coming from an individual who has no concept of cause and effect. Please tell us how the destruction of Pompeii had everything to do with homosexuality and nothing to do with volcanic eruption of Mount Vesuvius. From there, I would be interested in reading your thesis concerning homsexuality and the Fall of the Roman Empire. ...you try to hard to sound smart Rich
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Post by Lane Rendell on Jun 30, 2005 12:58:39 GMT -8
Yay seems our neighbors to the north are good peopel.
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Post by richndanapoint on Jun 30, 2005 13:12:47 GMT -8
If anyone sees themselves in this comment of mine then I guess it’s directed at you, if you don’t see yourself that’s fine too. The trouble with the topic is that it is rarely raised with constructive motives. People rarely seek to UNDERSTAND the lives of homosexuals; they only want to condemn them. People who initiate the topic usually have a psychological axe to grind. It would be like the never-occurring event of homosexuals initiating threads to condemn heterosexuality. That would be no less absurd. You can perch upon your small-minded soapbox and preach to anyone who will listen. You can transmit your message of intolerance and hate and wrap the bible around it all day long for all I care, but I won't embrace your message. You can say anything you want to say . . . but your words reflect your character or lack thereof. I'm not stereotyping you. You are what you are. You're an intolerant, uneducated, narrow-minded hypocrite with double standards. You demand freedom for yourself while you advocate the oppression of others. You harbor hate, anger, and intolerance for people who are different than you based solely on their sexual orientation. It makes you ANGRY when other people convey a message of tolerance, because YOU are intolerant. You think homosexuality is IMMORAL and you don't want those gays flaunting their homosexuality in your face. You're displaying a sense of moral superiority simply because you like girls instead of guys. That's really a superficial reason to condemn others -- based on who they choose to be intimate with -- something that's really none of your business. This is the picture that you are painting of yourself to me and others. If you're not impressed with the picture you're painting of yourself, then maybe it's time to take a long look in the mirror instead of spending your time judging others based on their sexual orientation. Believe it or not, your heterosexuality doesn't make you the king of morals. You're not the king of anything. Judge NOT, lest ye be judged.
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Post by ryndell on Jun 30, 2005 13:47:01 GMT -8
Peopl dont get the Main Issue of this .Its not should same sex marriage be legal or illegal.The state should not make a law that say they can nor should they make a law that says they cant.It should be up to each individual priest or judge.If the choose to perform said ceremony,and use the works and ceremonies dictated by law, or the church.Then two people are Legally Married.If the individual priest or judge does not want to do this.They same sex couple can find one who will.This is not hard to understand.If you are married by someone who legally can perform a marriage.Then you should be married .
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