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Post by iota on May 15, 2010 9:08:57 GMT -8
i think the people who believe in things like the illuminati should be thrown away in the loony bin along with those who claim to have been abducted by aliens heh.
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Post by Dumezil on May 15, 2010 9:14:21 GMT -8
That is quite the open mind you have there, Iota.
I do not really believe in it but I am not positive. I do not know enough about the subject matter, even having read the article, to make a decent choice.
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Post by Syko Nachoman on May 15, 2010 9:21:02 GMT -8
i think the people who believe in things like the illuminati should be thrown away in the loony bin along with those who claim to have been abducted by aliens heh. But then who will listen to my abduction stories I doubt it still exists. It's not impossible, but it just seems unlikely
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Post by Will on May 15, 2010 9:22:44 GMT -8
new jay-z song, full of freemason and devil 'hidden messages' and whatnot; go crazy
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Post by Xeron on May 15, 2010 9:35:33 GMT -8
new jay-z song, full of freemason and devil 'hidden messages' and whatnot; go crazy You should check out the On Fire - Lil wayne video symbolism
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Post by spiderwickrp on May 15, 2010 9:41:35 GMT -8
OK, give me some song lyrics that suggest the existence of the Illuminati. Since my computers sound doesn't work I can't watch the videos. As you suggested earlier, you said that "we haven't even gone into song lyrics yet". What proof do you have WHILE using song lyrics? Oh, I know! Rhianna's "Umbrella" is actually the safety of the Illuminati. I kind of doubt that.
Oh and Miley Cyrus's "Party in the USA" suggests Paegan gods dancing with the mortals. OK, I hate her, but that makes NO sense. Give me some songs that suggest Illuminati and MAYBE I will believe you about the music artist part.
I do believe that they exist and may still exist, but I dont believe that music artists are members of them and hardly believe that Leonardo da Vinci or anyone else famous that you have claimed were part of this "Secret Society" anyway. Please give me hard evidence about the Illuminati, not just theories.
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Post by Xeron on May 15, 2010 9:48:29 GMT -8
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Post by spiderwickrp on May 15, 2010 9:49:48 GMT -8
My I say, once again, that MY SOUND DOESNT WORK! Please post the lyrics to these songs along with the things that show evidence within them bolded. Obviously, you are not reading people's posts very carefully or you would have known that I have no sound.
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Post by Xeron on May 15, 2010 9:58:59 GMT -8
My I say, once again, that MY SOUND DOESNT WORK! Please post the lyrics to these songs along with the things that show evidence within them bolded. Obviously, you are not reading people's posts very carefully or you would have known that I have no sound. Calm down, I was just trying to post some vids up before I leave. I will get some up later. If you want to check out some songs yourself check out D'evils, Lucifer, anything from Reasonable Doubt, and some of the Black Album. Do some research. I will get some stuff up when I get back.
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Post by tom on May 15, 2010 10:36:14 GMT -8
Also there doesn't seem to be much proof of anything. That is obviously why it is a theory At which point I stopped reading. Do you have any idea how irritating it is to read the word "theory" used so ignorantly? >_>
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Post by iota on May 15, 2010 10:36:26 GMT -8
That is quite the open mind you have there, Iota. I do not really believe in it but I am not positive. I do not know enough about the subject matter, even having read the article, to make a decent choice. i just have a more, down to earth and realistic view on life. I don't suffer from paranoia and i'm just here to live my life.
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Post by Zephyr on May 15, 2010 10:52:45 GMT -8
I don't understand why a society supposedly so good at keeping themselves a secret would deliberately place hidden messages in the videos for the biggest songs in the world.
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Post by Graham on May 15, 2010 13:20:57 GMT -8
Practice what you preach.
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Post by .raze on May 15, 2010 13:29:12 GMT -8
I think it's a good theory and if you think about it, the world has changed dramatically in 20 years, more so after 9/11 as someone has already said. The wars fought following 9/11 are supposed to preserve our freedoms and way of life, but if you see some of the laws that governments around the world have attempted to pass (..and actually passed) since then you will see that a lot of our freedoms have been restricted.
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Post by kasooi on May 15, 2010 13:35:42 GMT -8
Conspiracies rely on correlation. And as many statisticians know, you can correlate pretty much anything.
Correlation does not imply causation eg: As ice cream sales increase, the rate of drowning deaths increases sharply. Therefore, ice cream causes drowning.
The Illuminati may still exist inside some universities like other secret societies, but I doubt they are as powerful as they once were, and the modern Illuminati may not be the same as the older ones.
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