How does Proboards define "pornographic"?

[cittenscollar]

From the TOS:

"You represent and warrant that you shall not use the Website or Services to upload, post, transmit, display, perform or distribute any content, information or materials that: (a) are libelous, defamatory, abusive, or threatening, excessively violent, harassing, obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, or pornographic;"


I have found no definition of how Proboards defines pornographic.

As an artist I have a rather relaxed idea of what porn is, but other people have differing opinions, and in the context of potentially creating an art-related board I need to know some stuff.

Are showing butts okay?

Are showing a woman's breasts okay? What if it is in a nonsexual context? The context of breastfeeding?

Is full nudity ever okay, in a nonsexual, tasteful or artistic context?

What about nudity in a playful context?

What about nudity as far as a historical or well known context, such as Michelangelo's David?

What about tasteful and artistic depictions of couples embracing nude?

[Former Member]

All proboard forums must only contain material that is suitable for PG 13+ years old. (Tos number 4)

proboards.com/community_guidelines - Point 4

Also: Tos Clause 18

You may have a relaxed idea of "porn", but how about little Johnny Biggs aged 14 who has no idea about it. Keep your forum PG 13 and you'll be okay.

[cittenscollar]

That doesn't really answer my questions.

I would not consider any of the things I listed porn, nor would a lot of people, but some would. And there is a very wide gap between "porn" and "PG-13"; the Proboards rules says "no porn", not "PG-13".

Further, many would consider many of the things I listed (historical nudity, artistic nudity, breastfeeding) suitable for children.

What I'm saying is, I need specific answers, not a vague one that is HIGHLY subjective. Even PG-13 is subjective. You need to understand that not everybody operates under a typical American mindset toward nudity, so sometimes we need a bit more explanation. It may be obvious to YOU what porn or PG-13 means in this case, but it's not to me.

[Wormopolis]

lets let admins answer TOS questions from here on out.

[cittenscollar]

So should I repost a new thread on the 3rd when the official team is back, or should I bump this one up?

[🎶Sossity🎶]

Dec 28, 2011 17:40:00 GMT -8 cittenscollar said:

So should I repost a new thread on the 3rd when the official team is back, or should I bump this one up?

Hi

Simply bump this one.

[VS Admin]

Think of a conservative definition, not a liberal one. If you think you might be skirting the line, you probably are.

[cittenscollar]

Dec 30, 2011 11:42:02 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Think of a conservative definition, not a liberal one. If you think you might be skirting the line, you probably are.

So you're saying that posting a picture of Michelangelo's David isn't allowed on Proboards?

[VS Admin]

I didn't say that. I said "If you think you might be skirting the line, you probably are."

[🎶Sossity🎶]

I have removed the last three posts from this thread.

The main admin has already engaged and responded to the thread starter. There is no need for anyone else to intervene with personal opinions. TOS queries are only to be answered by Proboards admins.

Thanks.

[cittenscollar]

Jan 5, 2012 22:38:40 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

I didn't say that. I said "If you think you might be skirting the line, you probably are."

But that really doesn't help.

Like I said to somebody else, that is probably great advice for somebody who understands the American mindset toward nudity. But not everybody does. This is why I'm asking specific questions and trying to get specific answers. Telling me that I just need to essentially use intuition is setting me up for failure because intuition is based on your life experiences - and mine, apparently, are vastly different from those who wrote and enforce the TOS.

I need you to explain specifically what is and isn't allowable.

[VS Admin]

There is a fine line between art that has nudity and pornography. If it isn't 100% apparent immediately to the average person, you can bet it crosses the line.

[css3]

Jan 7, 2012 19:36:31 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

There is a fine line between art that has nudity and pornography. If it isn't 100% apparent immediately to the average person, you can bet it crosses the line.

Pat, make a fine line? Should be easy for the most thick/thin. LOL.

[VS Admin]

I'm not going to comment on this more. The only reason you could want to know more is to try to push the line. Just don't do it.

[cittenscollar]

Jan 8, 2012 1:15:38 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

I'm not going to comment on this more. The only reason you could want to know more is to try to push the line. Just don't do it.

...Or I could be wanting to make sure I don't cross the line.

But thanks for the really rude accusation

I'm really not sure why it's so difficult to give a straight answer here, I'm trying to make sure that I set up forum rules so that they're clear to users who may not be from the US and understand the mindset of somebody from the US.

I should note, however, that your TOS says "pornography" and not "nudity", and you should perhaps change that if you want to avoid confusion.