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Post by Thesealion on Nov 7, 2012 11:06:27 GMT -8
I am sure you have a different point of view, but I don't really see OBama as moderate
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Post by Former Member on Nov 7, 2012 11:07:08 GMT -8
I agree 100% Next four years they need a real Republican candidate not a fake republican that supports too many democratic things that make neither side like him That's the problem though, the country clearly isn't favoring republican ideals anymore. Between Obama getting reelected, states voting to allow gay marriage, and the states that legalized marijuana on the state level, the GOP has some issues it has work out. I really don't see a far right candidate working out at this point (and vice versa with a far left), it just isolates way too many people. All things considered, Obama and Romney were both pretty moderate. The problem with Romney is that you couldn't tell if he was a moderate or an extremest during the beginning of his campaign.
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Post by The Maniac On Wheels (The MOW) on Nov 7, 2012 11:16:43 GMT -8
The Huff and Puffington Post has a link to keep us updated on the state by state election results! So far only New Hampshire is starting to release election results. If I find a better election tracker link I'll post it!
elections.huffingtonpost.com/2012/results I know I'm late posting this response. lol That's because two New Hampshire towns, Dixville Notch and Harts Location open their polls at Midnight (local time) and closed 30 minutes later (I'm in New Hampshire BTW).
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Post by Boom on Nov 7, 2012 12:35:49 GMT -8
It was hilarious seeing Trump throw a fit and say America needs a change in voting and it should be popular vote. Because in the end Obama had the popular vote as well ;D Though I do agree with him on the fact I wish every vote counted... but the reason he wanted it was for the fact Romney would have won... when he won't have. so he failed. lmao
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Post by Butterfly on Nov 7, 2012 12:45:58 GMT -8
But we all should know Romney and his flip-flopping ways. So it wouldn't surprise me if he did run again. Well that's not very fair. It's a flip-flop when Romney does it but "evolving" when Obama does it.
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Post by Graham on Nov 7, 2012 13:06:35 GMT -8
But we all should know Romney and his flip-flopping ways. So it wouldn't surprise me if he did run again. Well that's not very fair. It's a flip-flop when Romney does it but "evolving" when Obama does it. I don't think anyone has used the phrase 'evolving' in that sense...or is it just republican butthurt?
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Post by Butterfly on Nov 7, 2012 13:14:14 GMT -8
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Post by Graham on Nov 7, 2012 13:24:41 GMT -8
I don't see really how his opinion has actually evolved at all - each of those items on the timeline were quite consistant; he doesn't believe in it from a faith perspective, but, and i quote:
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Post by Beck on Nov 7, 2012 13:37:57 GMT -8
Mitt Romney's biggest problem was trying to please all the hardcore republicans and being somewhere in the middle himself. He was never going to win any democratic votes or minority votes pushing those hardcore beliefs. It ended up with him getting lost, with no clear policies on anything, back peddling, and not really saying what he would or wouldn't do if elected. I know many Americans are unhappy with Obama, but the entire Republican party needs to rethink some of its policies and get with the times.
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Post by Butterfly on Nov 7, 2012 13:39:41 GMT -8
I don't see really how his opinion has actually evolved at all - each of those items on the timeline were quite consistant; he doesn't believe in it from a faith perspective, but, and i quote: Yes but he also said when asked about those basic rights: So he wasn't actually referring to gay marriage. Just certain rights awarded to a partnership. Like hospital visitation rights. But then in May 2012, he just went ahead and endorsed gay marriage as marriage when talking on ABC. I can post a link to the video if you want. So he went from saying no to gay marriage, but yes to basic rights. Then yes to gay marriage as a whole. That is a flip-flop by all political standards. Especially the standards to which everyone seems to be held to. But please, oh please, don't think I'm arguing for or against any of this. I was only making a comment on the semantics of things. That's really all
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Post by Graham on Nov 7, 2012 13:59:44 GMT -8
I don't see really how his opinion has actually evolved at all - each of those items on the timeline were quite consistant; he doesn't believe in it from a faith perspective, but, and i quote: Yes but he also said when asked about those basic rights: So he wasn't actually referring to gay marriage. Just certain rights awarded to a partnership. Like hospital visitation rights. But then in May 2012, he just went ahead and endorsed gay marriage as marriage when talking on ABC. I can post a link to the video if you want. So he went from saying no to gay marriage, but yes to basic rights. Then yes to gay marriage as a whole. That is a flip-flop by all political standards. Especially the standards to which everyone seems to be held to. But please, oh please, don't think I'm arguing for or against any of this. I was only making a comment on the semantics of things. That's really all The key point it that while he may have had those thoughts on a personal level, he never let it get in the way of what is fair and right; he was able to put aside his own personal feelings and beliefs for the good of the people...something i honestly don't think Romney would even entertain. Don't worry, it doesn't bother me if you are for or against it - it's all good
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Post by Butterfly on Nov 7, 2012 14:04:31 GMT -8
Well then I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I believe that Romney was a good and honest man. He may not have been able to defend himself very well, or even explain what all his intentions truly were. But I also believe that he honestly had the best of the country in mind. Both Obama and Romney love America, and both were trying to lead it in the way they thought would be best. But America chose Obama so that is that And congratulations, by the way . Even though I voted for Romney, I truly do hope Obama succeeds. He's my president for the next four years afterall
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Post by BEAST on Nov 7, 2012 14:40:40 GMT -8
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Post by Former Member on Nov 7, 2012 15:22:17 GMT -8
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