Why was Hide5 Forum taken down without warning ???

[mumblypeg]

Aug 27, 2020 20:50:56 GMT -8 Kami said:

Further posts here really only are just venting, and while I definitely understand the desire to do so, it is not within the scope of the tech support board to handle. We can sit here and speculate and give educated guesses, but that's all it is -- we lack the information to be further helpful, and the PB staff here on the tech support board also lack the information to make informed comments.

Another serious flaw with this service.
I've seen these sorts of posts in your tech support forum and there's a reason for that; anyone who could actually assist is hiding behind an email, inaccessible, and will never answer.. That's why these posts land here.
You are having to deal with it because someone else is allowing the garbage to fall on you instead of handling it appropriately.

[Kami]

Aug 27, 2020 21:10:48 GMT -8 mumblypeg said:

Aug 27, 2020 20:50:56 GMT -8 Kami said:

Further posts here really only are just venting, and while I definitely understand the desire to do so, it is not within the scope of the tech support board to handle. We can sit here and speculate and give educated guesses, but that's all it is -- we lack the information to be further helpful, and the PB staff here on the tech support board also lack the information to make informed comments.

Another serious flaw with this service.
I've seen these sorts of posts in your tech support forum and there's a reason for that; anyone who could actually assist is hiding behind an email, inaccessible, and will never answer.. That's why these posts land here.
You are having to deal with it because someone else is allowing the garbage to fall on you instead of handling it appropriately.

I am not sure if "your tech support forum" is really appropriate a label, seeing as I am a user, same as you are. I am only providing information in the absence of an active staff member since it is outside of business hours.

I am not saying this with the intent of dismissing your feelings or your feedback, but rather that regardless of it, we have reached the limit with what we are able to assist with. I understand that is not satisfactory for you, I do. But unfortunately, being a normal member myself, I can only advise that further posts in this thread will not accomplish what you seek to do.

Of course, you are always free to wait until business hours tomorrow to see if the tech support admins have further insight to provide; business hours are Mon-Fri, 9AM to 5PM Pacific time (-8GMT).

Further posting tonight is something I wouldn't recommend as you'll just get other regular members reiterating what I've already said so far. Please be advised that admins work from oldest post > newest, so if you'd like a speedy response the best course of action would be to allow this thread to drop so that it's at the bottom of the new post list.

[Nscalerr 🐺]

Just quickly the url hide5.createaforum.com/index.php is not a ProBoards forum, so no point posting it here.

[Kami]

Aug 27, 2020 22:55:05 GMT -8 Nscalerr 🐺 said:

Just quickly the url hide5.createaforum.com/index.php is not a ProBoards forum, so no point posting it here.

but hide5.boards.net is. this link you've apparently found was created as a result of this  deletion.

[johnpoet]

Aug 27, 2020 16:08:12 GMT -8 quad489 said:

Aug 27, 2020 14:02:28 GMT -8 currentsitguy said:

Not sure, Joe, but if anyone from the board reads this I'm working on a backup plan. Not sure how to get the word out, though.

Deleting that forum makes no sense...I've already sent an email to abuse to see if they would explain this odd action.

It makes PLENTY of sense.  There were numerous instances of TOS violations including flagrant racist posts, threatening or encouraging violence, et cetera, mostly posted by the right-leaning members of the forum-- which Blue and the moderators were not strict enough in enforcing the TOS demanded by proboards.  What happened was therefore inevitable.

Like what I read suggested further down in this thread, 'the whole board was a TOS violation'.

'Free speech rights' do not exist on private property.  All you righties are gung-ho about "private property rights", but you don't seem to understand THIS simple fact.  Play by the rules of the property owner...  in this case you refused.

[Kami]

I think this thread has run its course. This is a tech support forum, not a place to argue with each other or accuse people of things that we have no way of knowing the validity of.

I advise folks to allow only PB admins to respond from this point, because they do not need additional comments from people arguing about a situation they can only guess at.

[joefriday9]

Aug 27, 2020 14:02:28 GMT -8 currentsitguy said:

Aug 27, 2020 11:50:51 GMT -8 joefriday9 said:

Kissing BLM butt ?

Not sure, Joe, but if anyone from the board reads this I'm working on a backup plan. Not sure how to get the word out, though.

Hey, Currentitsguy !....it's really 'pickle'...the board would not accept my screen name for some reason so I bounced to JoeFriday9.  I have JoeFriday6's e-mail so can get to him that way.

Both of us are disgusted with this ....how 'bout you ?

[joefriday9]

Aug 27, 2020 15:53:35 GMT -8 moonbeam said:

ProBoards wouldn't take down a forum to kiss anyone's butt. <eye roll> They make their money off of the ads on forums, so shutting one down isn't a decision to be made lightly.

Forums are only taken down when

1. The forum's owner doesn't take action on a request from the abuse team to remove content that's against the Terms of Service.

2. There are such widespread problems, that the entire forum is basically against the Terms of Service.

When that's the case, no warnings are given. It would probably be a good idea to review the rules you agreed to when you created the forum.

I didn't create the Forum...I was a participant. I received no warnings what-so-ever from the Forum manager about any of my posts....so I don't think the posts were the problem.

To give no warning is a betrayal to the members of that Forum.

[joefriday9]

Aug 27, 2020 16:20:19 GMT -8 Kami said:

Aug 27, 2020 16:14:26 GMT -8 quad489 said:

Hi Kami...Thank you for that information.

You're welcome.

For transparency, depending on what the reasoning is the team may or may not be able to disclose additional details -- it really depends. I would strongly advise re-reading the ProBoards Terms of Service to ensure that nothing happened on that forum that may have violated it (specifically, anything under Section 19, Objectionable Content).

PB isn't in the habit of removing forums because, as mentioned, that takes away their only source of revenue (forum ads, or revenue from upgrades to the forum like adfree). Generally if the forum is removed either a) a warning was sent to the user/1 account that was not addressed in the timeframe provided, or b) the entire forum was found to be counterproductive to the TOS.

Without getting into hot topic issues, based on the opening post on this thread, I would caution that there might have been content that crossed a line from voicing dissenting opinions to content specifically prohibited by the TOS.

This is just a guess, as I'm not PB staff, but should the forum be returned I would advise more care into making sure folks don't cross a line. Again, this is an apolitical post, but perhaps something to review. 

Thanks for the response.

Hide5 Board has a notice that it is terminated under Section 25 of TOS.

This basicaily saying nothing.  Boards can be " terminated without warning and for any reason at all."

[Nscalerr 🐺]

The Support forum is not the place for general chat, as all you are doing it pushing this thread further and further down the list. As has been stated already, (several times) the forum founder, (userid of 1) has to contact [e-mail] and wait for their response which can take 48 hours, or longer given it is a Friday and ProBoards Admins are online Monday through Friday from 9am-5pm PST/PDT (with the exception of some US holidays).

[uncledad]

Let me know if we can get together again. They PB should have the email addresses of the members of Hide5.

I will check back here for any updates. Hang in there.

[Nscalerr 🐺]

Aug 28, 2020 5:38:25 GMT -8 uncledad said:

Let me know if we can get together again. They PB should have the email addresses of the members of Hide5.

I will check back here for any updates. Hang in there.

Even if they did have the email addresses of users, (which they don't, other than in the database of the forum), they are NOT permitted to hand them out to users, (other than the owner of said email address) as it would be a breach of privacy!


People, take your chat down to the General Talk board. Support is NOT the place for general chat!

[VanWoman84]

I just was at the General board, and this very thread was moved from there to here, by a mod!

[gamleged]

Aug 27, 2020 14:02:28 GMT -8 currentsitguy said:

Aug 27, 2020 11:50:51 GMT -8 joefriday9 said:

Kissing BLM butt ?

Not sure, Joe, but if anyone from the board reads this I'm working on a backup plan. Not sure how to get the word out, though.

I did a search for "is hide5 down" knowing full well that it was, but I figured someone would have posted the like. Darn shame...

[moonbeam]

Aug 28, 2020 4:00:39 GMT -8 joefriday9 said:

Aug 27, 2020 15:53:35 GMT -8 moonbeam said:

ProBoards wouldn't take down a forum to kiss anyone's butt. <eye roll> They make their money off of the ads on forums, so shutting one down isn't a decision to be made lightly.

Forums are only taken down when

1. The forum's owner doesn't take action on a request from the abuse team to remove content that's against the Terms of Service.

2. There are such widespread problems, that the entire forum is basically against the Terms of Service.

When that's the case, no warnings are given. It would probably be a good idea to review the rules you agreed to when you created the forum.

I didn't create the Forum...I was a participant. I received no warnings what-so-ever from the Forum manager about any of my posts....so I don't think the posts were the problem.

To give no warning is a betrayal to the members of that Forum.

Only responding since you quoted me. Just because YOU didn't receive any warning as a participant doesn't mean that the content wasn't the problem. If there were repeated and blatent offenses that were ignored by the staff of the forum, then there would be no warnings sent to members because staff was clearly ok with whatever was being said. That doesn't mean PB is, however.

I have asked that this thread be locked, btw, since the conversational aspects between the forum members do need to go to PM instead.