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Post by daniel on Jun 21, 2005 23:03:05 GMT -8
Time is not something we created to measure a series of events. We simply created a tool in which to measure time is all. Time is not an illusion, or a sequencing of coherent memories. If that was the case, then Einsteins Theory of Relativity becomes nothing more then the ramblings of a mad man. As we accelerate to speeds nearing the speed of light, time slows for the person and/or object moving. What would be an hour for me at those high speeds, may be 25 years to you. So, while I return a little more hungry then I was when I left, an hour older, you have aged 25 years and have eaten thousands of meals. This is basically a proven theory as well, so if time is nothing more then a human invention to measure linear events, then how can this be possible? That time is relative serves to prove my point that the human definition of time is nothing more than the mental tool for ordering events in a linear fashion. For all intents and purposes, the only 'time' in existence is now, this very present moment. The past now exists only in our minds, in the collective consciousness. We use time to order that past(and to imagine the future), but all such references are relative according to the unique perspective from which it is given. My view of 6/22/2005 is different than from anyone else's, my time frame for the day is unique, the pathline for my own existence is shared by noone else so that my view of time is also not shared by anyone else. Rather than being a concrete absolute, time is entirely dependant on perspective and a set point of origination. Since the perspective and origination are all subjective, so goes that time is also relative, an abstract construction to order events.
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Post by myke on Jun 21, 2005 23:15:34 GMT -8
That doesn't prove time is a made up thing. How do you account for the Theory of Relativity? time being relative also does not prove time is a made up thing. That time is relative serves to prove my point that the human definition of time is nothing more than the mental tool for ordering events in a linear fashion. How so? For all intents and purposes, the only 'time' in existence is now, this very present moment. The past now exists only in our minds, in the collective consciousness. What makes you say this? I assume you do not believe in the possibility of time travel? How does this explain how I can spend an hour of existence to what would be 20 years for you if I was traveling close to the speed of light. If time is a man made thing, how have I only aged an hour, while you aged 25 years? We use time to order that past(and to imagine the future), but all such references are relative according to the unique perspective from which it is given. That is true. We have a sense of time in our minds, which is just another tool we use to measure what is already there, much like using a ruler to measure a foot, or a meter. It is already there, the space exists, we just measure it. My view of 6/22/2005 is different than from anyone else's, my time frame for the day is unique, the pathline for my own existence is shared by noone else so that my view of time is also not shared by anyone else. That also is true, however the events of 6/22/05 happened. Whether or not we saw all of the events, or I experienced different situations, emotions and gained new memories then you did is irrelevant to the subject at hand. That just proves we are two distinct sentient beings. Rather than being a concrete absolute, time is entirely dependant on perspective and a set point of origination. Only the way we measure time with out minds, our sense of time, not time itself. 5 feet is 5 feet. That direction of space is a dimension, as is time. You may be a giant and only have to take one step to walk 5 feet, but I will have to take a few. The distance did not change, it only seems shorter to you because you are bigger then me. Since the perspective and origination are all subjective, so goes that time is also relative, an abstract construction to order events. Nope, as I said, the means in which me measure time is are subjective. You are right when you say time is relative, but that does not mean it does not exist. I haven't seen you since the upgrades, nice debating with you again Daniel. Except I'm right ;D
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Post by Timewarp on Jun 22, 2005 8:18:17 GMT -8
Time itself is unending ... it is one of the constents in the universe.it is unchanging ... and unwavering ... Its Man Perception of time, that is a uniquely human form of awareness. Actually, that is not true. Time differs for every single object in existence. Time is a variable based on speed, that affects the perception for said object. It does exist, it is infinite, but it is not constant.
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