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Post by </Storm> on Jun 22, 2005 20:20:58 GMT -8
see that makes no sense to me....we can throw a flag into the trash but we cant burn it....and it takes away from our freedom of choice. and I have alot of respect for the flag, but I have more respect for what it was suppost to represent. some times they can be real d/a in govt. You can't throw a flag into the trash, it's illegal. You HAVE to burn it.
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Post by Enchant on Jun 22, 2005 20:24:49 GMT -8
see that makes no sense to me....we can throw a flag into the trash but we cant burn it....and it takes away from our freedom of choice. and I have alot of respect for the flag, but I have more respect for what it was suppost to represent. some times they can be real d/a in govt. You can't throw a flag into the trash, it's illegal. You HAVE to burn it. it was sarcasism.....which I obviously sux at....
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Post by ryndell on Jun 22, 2005 20:26:22 GMT -8
The flag should be totally left out of protests, there are other ways you can protest .Then destorying the symbol of america .
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Post by daniel on Jun 22, 2005 20:39:29 GMT -8
The only way a flag ever should be burned is if it hits the ground in battle.That is the only way that is ever remotely close to moral.Inkjet You have it wrong .The symbol of the Flage speak a heck of alot louder then you will ever know .The American Flag Means more to americans then just it being cloth .So Yes it represents the Nation in its own way .Anyone who burns an American flag ... That has not fallen in battle .Should be held accountable for said action . What you are stating is opinion, not fact. My point is that the 1st amendment protects your right to your opinion just as it protects someone who peacably holds the exact opposite opinion. That's the beauty of America, or at least that's how it started anyway.
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Post by Artemis on Jun 22, 2005 20:56:36 GMT -8
In the free country, I feel you can protest in various ways, as long as its not extreme... I don't define "extreme" myself, but I do think that burning the flag could be done. Its not looked upon as a very good thing to do, but it shouldn't be against the law, it does no one any harm.
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Post by ryndell on Jun 22, 2005 21:04:40 GMT -8
The only fact in my post was .They only used to burn the flag when it had fallen in battle, and hit the ground.That is fact.Yes the rest was opinion, and a very solid oppinion.Think about this back in the 1800's if someone just went out ,and burned the american flag.You know what most likely would happen to said flag burner.He probably would have gotten Lynched.
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Post by Inkjet on Jun 22, 2005 21:08:17 GMT -8
Ryndell, this isnt the 1800's anymore. I don't believe the flag is as strong as you made it out to be. This goes back to what I said, the people make and represent the nation, more so than the flag does. Sure the flag represents freedom and all that fine stuff, but the people do that more than a flag.
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Post by ryndell on Jun 22, 2005 21:10:04 GMT -8
The Flag is a Symbol of Honor, Morality ,and Integrity .In my opinion anyone who burns the American Flag has none of those things .
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Post by daniel on Jun 22, 2005 21:14:49 GMT -8
There are situations where America has failed to uphold those values you have mentioned. In those circumstances, I believe it is fair to protest that departure from our founding ethics. Don't get me wrong, I love America, but I also know enough history about how America has failed certain people, subjugated entire populations, raged outrageous campaigns, etc. I highly value my freedom to protest such events, more valuable than America is the freedom which it is built upon. It is the core freedom that is valuable, not so much any symbol or derivative idea.
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Post by ryndell on Jun 22, 2005 21:17:37 GMT -8
I know the constitution ... I also know american history.I will agree that certain events that have taken place throughout americas history .Do not follow the letter, or the spirit of the constitution.But why burn one of americas symbols.It just makes you as bad as people like no offense, but this is fact Jackson who started the campaign against the indian tribes.Yes he did begin it .
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Post by Enchant on Jun 22, 2005 21:22:38 GMT -8
I think its a peice of property reguardless of its meaning, because everyone veiws it differently and if you spent your money on it and paid the taxes on it then you should have the freedom to do with it as you will....I think the goverment is getting to tight as of late and squeezing everything out of the 1st admendment on us...our choices are slowly being taken away from us...
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Post by Disturbed Writer on Jun 22, 2005 21:22:46 GMT -8
Come on? We arn't living in the dark ages. How can some stupid polly get so worked up over a flag. Yer I know, yadda yadda yadda, it's a symbol...a symbol of imperialism and oppression of the working class. This law will only serve to control Americans.
Besides I'm an Australian and it's not going to be outlawed here so me and my activist buddies will continue to burn the flag*.
*The burning of the flag is by no means an attack on the people of America just the government and I do not mean any offence to Americans as I know many American friends who do the same.
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Post by Mary on Jun 22, 2005 21:23:41 GMT -8
Can You even Imagine How many people Have died Defending what the Flag Represents.To burn such a thing ... is to disrepect those who have died defending it .It is a disgrace to burn what the flag Symbolizes, and it Should be against the Law to do so . No my friend. They were fighting for America, and its beliefs, not a silly little flag. A flag doesn't represent a country, the people do. A flag absolutely represents a country and it's people. That's what a symbol does - it represents something. A flag is a symbol. This one represents America - its history, its present, its people, everything. HOWEVER, I believe that the right to burn a flag in protest should most definitely be protected, as that's peaceful protest, etc. If we start messing with the basic rights of the constitution, we're in trouble.
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Post by daniel on Jun 22, 2005 21:24:28 GMT -8
I see flag burning as either an act of foolishness or an act of desperation. To me, a sensible flag burning would involve someone publicly demonstrating a grave failure of the United States to uphold those very values the flag represents. For if the US has departed from its senses, from those core values, then burning a flag represents burning away the pollution that makes its way into government rather than burning of the original core values.
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Post by .Lady.Niesse. on Jun 22, 2005 21:31:58 GMT -8
I'm strongly against any burning of the flag--if you want free speech, get a blog. Yell. Hit a pillow. Burn a picture of President Bush, if you hate him. But to burn the symbol of one of the few bastions of freedom in the modern world? To scorn and revile those who have died to protect our freedom? To be frank, I have no tolerance for those who wish to deface our flag. I think anyone who does such should be shipped of to Cuba, where they can try practicing free speech and seeing where it gets them.
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