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Post by Member 27 on Jul 1, 2005 15:28:14 GMT -8
That's all down to whether God had chosen them or not. Doesn't God always take the side of life?
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Post by Gonubierat on Jul 1, 2005 15:29:43 GMT -8
What give's you that idea? (im not saying you are wrong, but im just interested in why you believe that).
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Post by ryndell on Jul 1, 2005 15:31:07 GMT -8
actually in deuteronomy 6:7 its speaks of your children, so more or less thats speaking of family or household.Thats all you can determine for this .The passage isnt that clear . nor can it really be answered fully .No matter who interpits it, unless it was the one who wrote it.Who is long since dead.
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Post by Member 27 on Jul 1, 2005 15:31:42 GMT -8
What give's you that idea? (im not saying you are wrong, but im just interested in why you believe that). Well for one, why would God want an innocent person to die? And don't Christians try to follow God, and take the side of life? Abortion, and Terri Shiavo for instance.
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Post by ryndell on Jul 1, 2005 15:41:07 GMT -8
or if you look further up in deuteronomy six it speaks of isreal, and gods law itself.Either one, teach the law to your house hold, and of the one god ,and of the land of isreal.either way, it still has to deal with family and house hold.
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Post by Gonubierat on Jul 1, 2005 15:41:29 GMT -8
WoW... U really are confused huh? Im sorry... but come on, at least read the entire chapter?
Chapter 5 gives the 10 Commandments. Chapter 6 talks about htese commandments, and from what I can tell (from only a quick read - not an indepth study mind you), is that we should constantly be reminding ourselves of these commandments. Verse 7 is simply saying (as far as I can tell) that the commandments nned to be 'impressed' on your childrem. Therefore, taught to your children, they must become a way of life for your children. Stealing is wrong, impress it on your child!
Verse 8, simply showing ways of reminding yourself of the the commandments. Thats all.
Now again, I have not done any indepth studying into Deuteronomy, but I assume that will change over the next 4 years while I start studying the Bible in depth at college.
Anyways, God Bless.
Noone is innocent. We are, according to the Bible, all sinful.
Thats a matter of oppinion. Some people believe Terri was already dead.
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Post by ryndell on Jul 1, 2005 15:43:11 GMT -8
i just edited lol .. i was looking on at deuteronomy 6:8 its been ages since i read full deuteronomy.
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Post by Gonubierat on Jul 1, 2005 15:43:21 GMT -8
or if you look further up in deuteronomy six it speaks of isreal, and gods law itself.Either one, teach the law to your house hold, and of the one god ,and of the land of isreal.either way, it still has to deal with family and house hold. *shakes head*
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Post by Member 27 on Jul 1, 2005 15:44:58 GMT -8
Noone is innocent. We are, according to the Bible, all sinful. Thats a matter of oppinion. Some people believe Terri was already dead. Then why do a lot of Christians believe in the death penalty? Well what about abortion?
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Post by photoman on Jul 1, 2005 15:45:29 GMT -8
WoW... U really are confused huh? Im sorry... but come on, at least read the entire chapter? Chapter 5 gives the 10 Commandments. Chapter 6 talks about htese commandments, and from what I can tell (from only a quick read - not an indepth study mind you), is that we should constantly be reminding ourselves of these commandments. Verse 7 is simply saying (as far as I can tell) that the commandments nned to be 'impressed' on your childrem. Therefore, taught to your children, they must become a way of life for your children. Stealing is wrong, impress it on your child! Verse 8, simply showing ways of reminding yourself of the the commandments. Thats all. Now again, I have not done any indepth studying into Deuteronomy, but I assume that will change over the next 4 years while I start studying the Bible in depth at college. Anyways, God Bless. Noone is innocent. We are, according to the Bible, all sinful. Thats a matter of oppinion. Some people believe Terri was already dead. Very impressive analysis of the verses
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Post by ryndell on Jul 1, 2005 15:46:50 GMT -8
I know preachers who have studied the bible for 30 years who have preached for 25 .. who just read the passage as it is.Let you decide what it means for yourself,because somethings in the bible mean different things to different people.They do not interpit these things, they just read them word for word .
Like this one for example :Christ Speaking to the disciplines,or apostles ..MY Father In heaven has sheep in other pastures that man knows not of .
At the time he could have been speaking of the americas to those people.Or he could have been speaking of life on other planets.That would be up for your own meaning i would think .
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Post by Gonubierat on Jul 1, 2005 15:52:06 GMT -8
Noone is innocent. We are, according to the Bible, all sinful. Thats a matter of oppinion. Some people believe Terri was already dead. Then why do a lot of Christians believe in the death penalty? Well what about abortion? I dont believe in the death penalty, and those who do are not looking at hte NEw Testament close enough. Remember when I spoke of Clarence Darrow earlier... well, his defence of the two teens allowed them to get off the death penalty... however, he did argue for them to have life. The purpose, he said, was to protect society. If that can be done without killing, then yes... and we can do that. I do not believe abortion is right. However, you do not need to be a Christian to think Abortion is wrong. I will not argue when a baby is trully alive with a soul, since we do not know, however, when there is this potential for a child, I think abortion is wrong. Yet, you can rope in a whole load of other arguements, such as womans rights etc. However, the one which would take most thought, is in the case of a mother's life being in dangour. Thats when decisions become passed into a grey area.
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Post by Gonubierat on Jul 1, 2005 15:56:47 GMT -8
I know preachers who have studied the bible for 30 years who have preached for 25 .. who just read the passage as it is.Let you decide what it means for yourself,because somethings in the bible mean different things to different people.They do not interpit these things, they just read them word for word . Like this one for example :Christ Speaking to the disciplines,or apostles ..MY Father In heaven has sheep in other pastures that man knows not of . At the time he could have been speaking of the americas to those people.Or he could have been speaking of life on other planets.That would be up for your own meaning i would think . Wow... talk about your game of dodge ball! (ive always wanted to play that - looks fun on TV)! I have no idea what rant you are on now... but I think I can guess that you are simply saying that people interperet the Bible differently... yes? Well, Like I said, I havent studied this passage (nor the books mind you), but it doesnt take a proffessor in theology to know that you should read everything in context. Secondly, your point about the sheep, that fits in very well with the idea of predestination mind you!
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Post by Gonubierat on Jul 1, 2005 16:05:15 GMT -8
Thnk you, but I believe the Question was not addressed to me anyways.
Hope I could help.
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Post by ryndell on Jul 1, 2005 16:56:09 GMT -8
It means exactly what it says ... even the best scholars of the bible are not 100 percent sure of the full meaning of things with in the bible,because some of the passages can be looked at 2 to 5 different ways .Thats a fact.
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