A:M/C - Why my forum has been deleted?

[carla]

Forum URL: foolsgarden.proboards22.com

It seems that my forum as been deleted after more than 2 years, cos there's some Italian and German on it... This is the only reason I see for such a thing.

But the main language of the forum is English!
Cos I need it to be international and understandable all over the world.
It's just that many users are not English and so I allow them to use their language as well but ONLY in some specifical boards.

Does the rule that the forum must be in English mean that if there are threads with also other languages, the forum can be delete??

[Snakeair]

carla said:

Forum URL: foolsgarden.proboards22.com

It seems that my forum as been deleted after more than 2 years, cos there's some Italian and German on it... This is the only reason I see for such a thing.

But the main language of the forum is English!
Cos I need it to be international and understandable all over the world.
It's just that many users are not English and so I allow them to use their language as well but ONLY in some specifical boards.

Does the rule that the forum must be in English mean that if there are threads with also other languages, the forum can be delete??

Section 3. c of the TOS www.proboards.com/tos.html

User's message board and Web site must be in English.

Not just parts of your board the whole thing should of been in English. A word or 2 should be ok, but that's pushing it.

Check back here tomorrow for a confirmation from a admin about this.

[carla]

But why haven't I receive any notice from the admins about it??

[frufru]

carla said:

But why haven't I receive any notice from the admins about it??

because the staff violated the TOS by making the boards, the agreement to TOS when you signed up for the board was your warning.

[Snakeair]

carla said:

But why haven't I receive any notice from the admins about it??

You don't need a warning about this. When you signed up for that board before you clicked on i agree you was supposed to read the (TOS) terms of service www.proboards.com/tos.html

That was your warning already. Your job as the board owner is to make sure your board doesn't violate any of those rules. I'm not a admin and therefore just giving my opinion.

[∞ ConqueringWolf ∞]

carla said:

Forum URL: foolsgarden.proboards22.com

It seems that my forum as been deleted after more than 2 years, cos there's some Italian and German on it... This is the only reason I see for such a thing.

But the main language of the forum is English!
Cos I need it to be international and understandable all over the world.
It's just that many users are not English and so I allow them to use their language as well but ONLY in some specifical boards.

Does the rule that the forum must be in English mean that if there are threads with also other languages, the forum can be delete??

If you had german and italian language on your forum then that would be a TOS violation. A forum must be 100% english not just mostly. As stated the TOS you agree to before you create your board is your warning....creating something that violates TOS after you agree to it is an automatic deletion. Sorry but all you can do is recreate a new forum if you wish and make sure it is all in english this time.

[carla]

So, guys, if you don't restore it again and let me make the changes for repairing the violations, I will open a board elsewhere.

I cannot stay all the time watching over all my forums. You could send me a notice before deleting it, since I'm a user of proboards since July 2003 (and never had problems) and I do have a lot of stuff on my board, that is now lost.
That's not fair.
I'm not putting illegal stuff on it and you could be a little nicer with your users.

[Tommy Huynh]

carla said:

So, guys, if you don't restore it again and let me make the changes for repairing the violations, I will open a board elsewhere.

I cannot stay all the time watching over all my forums. You could send me a notice before deleting it, since I'm a user of proboards since July 2003 (and never had problems) and I do have a lot of stuff on my board, that is now lost.
That's not fair.
I'm not putting illegal stuff on it and you could be a little nicer with your users.

Section 3c of the ToS clearly states that it must be in English.

When signing up for the forum, you agreed to the ToS, and now that you broke it. Preceeding section 3c, it says, "To use our service, you must agree to all the following:"

You didn't agree with 3c.

[carla]

I did agree more than 2 years ago, but then of course I forgot... you know, I have a life.
The board changed a lot during all this time.
A notice of violation would be a minimum service for a long term user like me!
I would have moved elsewhere the non-English stuff for not losing it.
I lost 2 years of discussions now.

Proboards.com exists thanks to the users, so a little kindness with them, in particular those who are here since a long time, would be the minimum to be expected!

[Tommy Huynh]

carla said:

I did agree more than 2 years ago, but then of course I forgot... you know, I have a life.
The board changed a lot during all this time.
A notice of violation would be a minimum service for a long term user like me!
I would have moved elsewhere the non-English stuff for not losing it.
I lost 2 years of discussions now.

Proboards.com exists thanks to the users, so a little kindness with them, in particular those who are here since a long time, would be the minimum to be expected!

Since staff allowed it (you as the main admin) it is instantly deleted.

Hey, I have a life too and I completely remember what is and is not allowed on a Proboard.

[carla]

Instantly?
It's one year that there are things in other languages on the board.
I didn't remember at all it was not allowed and the fact nothing happened for more than one year made me think I was right.

I didn't remember it, cos I haven't seen such a rule in any other forum. I have a community of fans of a band, in which everybody speaks at least 2 or 3 languages, so if I find an article in German or in Italian, it's non-sense to spend time to traslate it, if everybody can understand it anyway.
The rule itself is ununderstandable to me, and it's very normal I've forgotten about it completely.

OK, it's my fault, cos I had to remember (...), so why didn't the admins delete the board one year ago?

If they had deleted my board then, I would have lost just a little part of the discussions.

If they took 1 year for deleting a board with a violation (a not illegal one, so not really sooooooo serious), they could give me a couple of days for fixing it.

Come on, guys, a little tolerance!

Most of the non-English threads are just a copy of the English ones. Sometimes in the same thread you find the translation in English, cos it's the main languange understood by all.

If the meaning of the rule is to have forums which are understandable to everybody, well, my forum is perfectly understandable to someone who only speaks English.
But if you really don't like other languages (!!!!), I can always move the non-English threads elsewhere... if you give me the chance to do it!
That's what I'm asking.

I like the way proboards is done, but for sure I won't create anymore a board here, if I don't get back all the stuff that the users collected in that board in all this time.

[alonso]

You will never get your board back, nor any information from it.

You agreed with the TOS, and you break it.

If you forgot about a part of teh TOS, feel free to go to www.proboards.com/tos.html , or even copy and paste it on your board so the members can follow it as well.

[Tommy Huynh]

Once a board is deleted, you won't get any of the information back.

And the reason why the admins didn't delete the board a year ago was that someone probably didn't report it until recently. Also, why would they give you a few days to remediate a rule that you've broken and agreed to comply upon registration?

[carla]

Why? Politeness toward a user!
Evidently you guys don't know what it is.
We were not giving links to illegal stuff or whatever, but only using our native languages beside English (which was always the main language) for talking about music.
It's scandalous that we cannot do it!

I repeat, the forum was in English.
I didn't make any mistake about it.
You'd better clearly write on your rules: "Using a different language in some threads, even if they are also available in English or translated, and the board itself is in English, is not allowed".
I never read such a rule!

The rule that the forums must be in English is too general. According to it, even some slangs, which are very different from the real English, are not allowed, are they?

I think the applications of the rule is totally untolerant toward different cultures and languages!

So, farewell, I've already found a better forum provider, with CIVIL rules!!

[Martyn Dale]

All remotly hosted forum services that i know of all require forums to be in english, or require you to pay, its nothing unusual.

You had entire boards in other languages, and posts in the english boards in another language

You say there was no illegal activity, but how is anyone who only speaks english supposed to know that.

There a rules to ensure that content can be regulated and laws be obayed

TOS Section 3c
User's message board and Web site must be in English.

How much clearer can it be?
Does it say "mostly english" or "english"