Mafia Game (After Party)

[Syko Nachoman]

Dec 16, 2010 16:43:47 GMT -8 Ara (Crow) said:

I am a lone villiager who has no idea what is going on anymore...

That's OK. No one really does.

[Ryan Roos]

Dec 16, 2010 16:48:43 GMT -8 bagheera said:

Dec 16, 2010 16:43:32 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

Oh sorry that's another fact you like to overlook for me being mafia, I wasn't even playing for the first 2 real world days, when 2 villagers were killed by the mafia.

Sorry, but I don't have any reason to believe you. You were online from home last night, you could very easily have been online from home over the weekend. Plus, we don't know how the Mafia vote works... do illuminate us, since you're so knowledgeable.

This is really ticking me off. I do hope that Nightwalker or iCraft are in PM communication with Dove, Mr. Spartan, Crow, or Thumper, all of whom are clearly villagers. I also hope the latter are threatening to beat about the head whoever causes them to lose the game.

I'm also waiting for why Jetta is protecting you, Ryan.

I got on last night because you and I are at war. I rarely if ever get on support at home. I didn't want you swaying any villagers over here to your side. I had no posts and participated in no lynchings. I didn't even know anything until Monday morning when I first posted.


Nice on the "do illuminate us". Another accusation based on no event or fact to try and make me look like mafia. I have no clue how it works. I assume, like the rules say, they all pick a villager and kill them. Seems logical especially after all the villagers that have died.

Edit : Again nice, I said to ask you or Jetta about Jetta, way to ignore that post. I have no idea why.

[bagheera]

And hey, Ryan... if we're talking about using the same logic over and over, try giving me some original reasoning I haven't already disproven.

Your original reasons for voting for me were apparently thus:

1. Bageera claims to be the detective and to have successfully identified at least 2 mafia on the first 2 guesses (yeah right), 3 if you say I'm mafia. And yet no mafia have been killed yet. How is that possible?

As I've explained, it was a lolzy random guess for the first, because Jetta seemed like the Mafia type, an educated guess for the second because Syko seemed suspicious in light of his pots, and a pretty darn well-educated guess for you since you fought so hard to get Phaelyn killed. And yet you still keep going "VOTE BAGHEERA BECAUSE SHE'S GUESSED 3/3 RIGHT", despite the fact that I posted all this on page 28, and we're now on page 42.

As for why no Mafia have been killed, once again, it's because you keep freaking screwing with people's minds. I fought to have Jetta killed for the first lynching, for the second lynching, and again for this lynching. I based my votes several times on asking other villagers in public in this thread who I should vote for, before realizing that you're the more dangerous Mafia member and clearly need to be ousted soon.

Dec 14, 2010 14:29:49 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

2. Bageera publicly announced being the detective but wasn't killed by the mafia, even with no doctor around. How is that possible?

Because a) the nurse probably protected me, and b) what sane Mafia would go after an individual who publicly asked the nurse to protect them? It'd be a waste of a potential villager death.

Dec 14, 2010 14:29:49 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

3. The real detective who us villagers are keeping secret for protection asked last night about Bagheera and was told that Bagheera is in the mafia.

You've still provided zero evidence that you're actually in communication with this detective, who is clearly supposed to be Syko. The detective basically guards the village, so they have a pretty vested interest in keeping the villager count higher than the Mafia count.

Dec 14, 2010 14:29:49 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

4. Bagheera tricked Phaelyn into an alliance pretending to be the detective and forced us to kill one of our own. I feel responsible, and will not let Bagheera get away with it.

Phaelyn was a villager, which you swore up, down, and sideways, and even promised your in-game life upon, wasn't true. And now you're trying to back out of the consequences and get me killed, too, despite saying that if Phaelyn were a villager, I could be trusted.

Your plan immediately changed once Phaelyn died, of course.

Dec 14, 2010 14:29:49 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

5. Now Bagheera is still targeting Jetta, Syko, iCraft and myself as the mafia. I am 99% sure they are villagers now.

Nice... you're sure Jetta is the Mafia, and that Jetta isn't the Mafia? At once? Explain how that works.

And you still insist on using these "pieces of evidence" that have been countered twenty pages ago... and, at the same time, claim I have no original evidence.

Speaking of the kettle calling the pot black.

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In the meantime, my PM box is open to anyone. I know that Ryan brings PM's public and has betrayed several people by doing so, but I haven't and won't start now.

Consider this a chance to talk one-on-one about the evidence, since I'm pretty sure Ryan has already been in extensive PM contact with the villager who is voting for me.

Your other option is to PM Dove, Mr. Spartan, Thumper, and Crow, since all of them are villagers (and even if you believe Ryan, at least two of them are). Talk about the evidence with them, ask them something only a villager would know... just put your mind at ease that we're all villagers. When you realize that, I do hope you side with the rest of the village, since I have the feeling we're all going to be pretty annoyed if your stubbornness/refusal to talk with other villagers ends up losing the game.

[Dumezil]

Um. Maybe we should go for another chorus of I Love You, You Love Me?

[bagheera]

Jetta, just who I was hoping to see!

So, given that Ryan is convinced you're Mafia... why are you still voting for me? And why did you wait to miraculously switch your vote from Ryan to me at just before clinch time last night -- when Ryan has been just as persistent in condemning you?

Why suddenly start to protect Ryan when it looks like he might be voted off?

[Dumezil]

Because I'm just sitting here twidling my thumbs, enjoying watching while you guys go after the completely wrong people while letting me live after most of you have been convinced from day 1 that I was a mafia member. I'm still voting for you because we managed to form an amusing tie and I hope to create speculation so I can be positive who is actually who depending on who will turn their vote in the end.

[Ryan Roos]

Cool. Now Bagheera is arguing with me and I don't have to do any work. She just creates arguments out of my previous quotes.

I only have one thing to clarify from all of that. It is my understanding that if the nurse protects you and the mafia try to kill you that Aether would have posted something like "Last night Bagheera was stabbed in an alley. Luckily a nurse was walking by and helped her to the hospital" and no one dies. Instead what happened was the LordHelmit was killed.

Keep trying to explain how you survived by twisting how the the rules work and feigning ignorance for how the mafia functions. If the nurse helped you we would have heard about it. The mafia didn't assassinate you because you are the mafia.

Jetta, I have no idea what you just said but I didn't see your vote change so it's fine with me whatever's going on.

Edit : I do ask one thing from villagers when reading Bagheera's posts. Notice that she quoting me a lot from Monday and sometimes Tuesday and then comparing it to where we are now. Maybe at the time of a post I wasn't sure about Jetta for example. To quote me 2 days later after deaths and betrayals when I now claim to think Jetta is mafia is sort of double faced. If I uncovered evidence or pieced together a plan why can't my opinion grow? If I speculate in a single post but adhere to an ideal throughout why is that questioned exactly?


Bagheera isn't going to give up this killing of me since I'm obviously the most danger to her. I won't be posting again until tomorrow when I get back to work. Please feel free to Read her next 37 posts with no rebuttal from myself, and no defense. I have provided evidence over and over, and Bagheera just cleverly sidesteps and ignores most of it.

Until tomorrow fellow villagers and sneaky mafia, I bid you adieu!

[bagheera]

Dec 16, 2010 18:05:24 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

Cool. Now Bagheera is arguing with me and I don't have to do any work. She just creates arguments out of my previous quotes.

I only have one thing to clarify from all of that. It is my understanding that if the nurse protects you and the mafia try to kill you that Aether would have posted something like "Last night Bagheera was stabbed in an alley. Luckily a nurse was walking by and helped her to the hospital" and no one dies. Instead what happened was the LordHelmit was killed.

Keep trying to explain how you survived by twisting how the the rules work and feigning ignorance for how the mafia functions. If the nurse helped you we would have heard about it. The mafia didn't assassinate you because you are the mafia.

Jetta, I have no idea what you just said but I didn't see your vote change so it's fine with me whatever's going on.

You really need to learn to read... or else stop trying to twist my words, whichever it is. Like I said...

Dec 16, 2010 17:01:03 GMT -8 bagheera said:

Because a) the nurse probably protected me, and b) what sane Mafia would go after an individual who publicly asked the nurse to protect them? It'd be a waste of a potential villager death.

Like I said, the nurse probably chose to protect me, while the Mafia didn't target me since they knew I would be protected and it would be a waste of a potential villager death.

Or in point form, since it's simpler...

Nurse: protected either me or another member who isn't LordHelmit.
Mafia: knew that I would likely be protected and thus wouldn't be a good target, chose LordHelmit.
LordHelmit: unfortunately died as a result.

Capiche?

[Mr. Spartan]

Dec 16, 2010 18:05:24 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

Cool. Now Bagheera is arguing with me and I don't have to do any work. She just creates arguments out of my previous quotes.

I only have one thing to clarify from all of that. It is my understanding that if the nurse protects you and the mafia try to kill you that Aether would have posted something like "Last night Bagheera was stabbed in an alley. Luckily a nurse was walking by and helped her to the hospital" and no one dies. Instead what happened was the LordHelmit was killed.

Keep trying to explain how you survived by twisting how the the rules work and feigning ignorance for how the mafia functions. If the nurse helped you we would have heard about it. The mafia didn't assassinate you because you are the mafia.

Jetta, I have no idea what you just said but I didn't see your vote change so it's fine with me whatever's going on.

Edit : I do ask one thing from villagers when reading Bagheera's posts. Notice that she quoting me a lot from Monday and sometimes Tuesday and then comparing it to where we are now. Maybe at the time of a post I wasn't sure about Jetta for example. To quote me 2 days later after deaths and betrayals when I now claim to think Jetta is mafia is sort of double faced. If I uncovered evidence or pieced together a plan why can't my opinion grow? If I speculate in a single post but adhere to an ideal throughout why is that questioned exactly?


Bagheera isn't going to give up this killing of me since I'm obviously the most danger to her. I won't be posting again until tomorrow when I get back to work. Please feel free to Read her next 37 posts with no rebuttal from myself, and no defense. I have provided evidence over and over, and Bagheera just cleverly sidesteps and ignores most of it.

Until tomorrow fellow villagers and sneaky mafia, I bid you adieu!

we haven't heard about the nurse saving anyone in the other killings. so why bring it up on that one?

[Dumezil]

Basically, I am not taking this as serious as ya'll and I am having fun creating drama and encouraging conspiracies. That is why I am voting the way I am.

Like a poltergeist.

[Mr. Spartan]

Dec 16, 2010 18:15:00 GMT -8 Dumezil said:

Basically, I am not taking this as serious as ya'll and I am having fun creating drama and encouraging conspiracies.

Like a poltergeist.

same. I just like waking up every morning and seeing another three pages of arguments.

[Syko Nachoman]

Dec 16, 2010 18:16:21 GMT -8 Mr. Spartan said:

Dec 16, 2010 18:15:00 GMT -8 Dumezil said:

Basically, I am not taking this as serious as ya'll and I am having fun creating drama and encouraging conspiracies.

Like a poltergeist.

same. I just like waking up every morning and seeing another three pages of arguments.

We should see who can guess correctly how many pages this thread reaches before someone changes their vote. ;D

I say 60.

[bagheera]

Oi, it's not funny for those of us actually trying to keep a bunch of people from losing the game.

I still hope Aether posts soon to clarify whether we can just have us both die. And I still would like to point out how un-villager-like it is for someone to refuse that deal.

[Ara (Crow)]

Dec 16, 2010 18:15:00 GMT -8 Dumezil said:

Basically, I am not taking this as serious as ya'll and I am having fun creating drama and encouraging conspiracies. That is why I am voting the way I am.

Like a poltergeist.

I'm with Jetta on this one.

[Thesealion]

Dec 16, 2010 18:20:00 GMT -8 Syko Nachoman said:

Dec 16, 2010 18:16:21 GMT -8 Mr. Spartan said:

same. I just like waking up every morning and seeing another three pages of arguments.

We should see who can guess correctly how many pages this thread reaches before someone changes their vote. ;D

I say 60.

I will set the over under at 60.5 and go over ;D