GT Mafia: Round 2 ((Post-Game))

[VS Admin]

With this Neighborhood Watch thing, what if the vote is split 50/50? How do you determine which way the vote is supposed to go?

[Phaelyn]

I'm still not voting for anyone at the moment. If someone can come up with convincing evidence either way, or we need to end the day, I'll start a vote, but I'd rather not randomly condemn people for the moment. -shrug-

[VS Admin]

Dec 28, 2010 17:09:22 GMT -8 Phaelyn said:

I'm still not voting for anyone at the moment. If someone can come up with convincing evidence either way, or we need to end the day, I'll start a vote, but I'd rather not randomly condemn people for the moment. -shrug-

I can only repeat why I think voting for Crow is a good idea - which is that they were online after the game started and avoided posting (mafia would try to avoid attention). Then when coming back they have made no convincing argument as to why they should not be voted for. Also Crow's profile does not match her claimed birthday of Dec 30th. Crow said not to kill her on her birthday (lies - it's my birthday not hers ).

My vote stands as Crow.

[Phaelyn]

Dec 28, 2010 17:16:54 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Dec 28, 2010 17:09:22 GMT -8 Phaelyn said:

I'm still not voting for anyone at the moment. If someone can come up with convincing evidence either way, or we need to end the day, I'll start a vote, but I'd rather not randomly condemn people for the moment. -shrug-

I can only repeat why I think voting for Crow is a good idea - which is that they were online after the game started and avoided posting (mafia would try to avoid attention). Then when coming back they have made no convincing argument as to why they should not be voted for. Also Crow's profile does not match her claimed birthday of Dec 30th. Crow said not to kill her on her birthday (lies - it's my birthday not hers ).

My vote stands as Crow.

Of anything, I think Nightwalker's actually more suspicious though. He seems to have a lot of questions about stuff a normal villager should know...granted, I just got back home and only really skimmed the thread

[Ara (Crow)]

Dec 28, 2010 17:16:54 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Dec 28, 2010 17:09:22 GMT -8 Phaelyn said:

I'm still not voting for anyone at the moment. If someone can come up with convincing evidence either way, or we need to end the day, I'll start a vote, but I'd rather not randomly condemn people for the moment. -shrug-

I can only repeat why I think voting for Crow is a good idea - which is that they were online after the game started and avoided posting (mafia would try to avoid attention). Then when coming back they have made no convincing argument as to why they should not be voted for. Also Crow's profile does not match her claimed birthday of Dec 30th. Crow said not to kill her on her birthday (lies - it's my birthday not hers ).

My vote stands as Crow.

I'm online a lot, yet I don't post. <.<

Plus I forgot this thread even existed for the first 7 pages.

[Ace Trainer Dom]

I'm willing to join the neighborhood watch, I just can only fit the "neighborhood watch" part not the description.

[Syko Nachoman]

Dec 28, 2010 14:48:23 GMT -8 Ace Trainer Dom said:

I'm within 30 mb of going over my mobile data for the month and each pb page load is about 1.50 mb, so I have to be careful.

Sorry for the several-pages-late reply, but I just noticed this comment in your post; if you go to your profile settings and disable avatars and images, it should cut down significantly on the loading size of each page.

[Ryan Roos]

Dec 28, 2010 17:05:02 GMT -8 aether said:

Okay. Now, what if the mafia member joins the neighborhood watch? Are they clear? Wouldn't it benefit a mafia member more to join the neighborhood watch? I mean, at risk of being revealed, and without more suspects, a mafia member would definitely vote for a fellow mafia member. I just can't see how it distinguishes mafia members from innocents.

You aren't automatically a villager for joining.

At the end of the day where the vote is split. Let's say 6 votes one way and 7 votes another. If there is an hour left and no one is changing then anyone in neighborhood watch will switch to the 7 side.

Mafia in the watch could switch (and will if a villager is getting lynched). If a mafia is getting lynched some may be reluctant to change. They will stand out when everyone else switches automatically. Now suddenly the village is voting together. A majority of the vote will still be villagers, even with mafia mixed in. We will be united. Harder to target and easier to work together.

Essentially if mafia do switch votes there is no gain and no loss for the watch and the villagers. If any mafia hesitate it will reveal them.

Best case scenario mafia are forced to switch and lynch their own kind or be revealed. Anyone refusing to join the watch would be suspicious for avoiding this as there is no harm to the villagers for joining or for switching.

There is no consequence to joining the watch as a villager. If you know you've lost the vote and you agree we must lynch someone everyday then switching should not be a problem for you if there is a popular vote. Even if the vote makes you change to yourself then you can make a BOLD claim to who you think a mafia is before going out and then the village can rally after your death.

There are only 4 mafia. Meaning the neighborhood watch unites villagers into a larger group. We will have less in-fighting the next day. Mafia will have a harder time messing us all up.

[Ace Trainer Dom]

Dec 28, 2010 17:47:28 GMT -8 Syko Nachoman said:

Dec 28, 2010 14:48:23 GMT -8 Ace Trainer Dom said:

I'm within 30 mb of going over my mobile data for the month and each pb page load is about 1.50 mb, so I have to be careful.

Sorry for the several-pages-late reply, but I just noticed this comment in your post; if you go to your profile settings and disable avatars and images, it should cut down significantly on the loading size of each page.

I tried that, but the thing that's causing the large data usage is the full flash advertisements that my phone loads. They are about half the data In each page load. Thanks for the tip though, I'll be able to squeeze another post or two our of it.

[aether]

I'm voting for Crow unless she can give me a good reason not to, or unless someone can give me a better reason to vote for someone else.

[Phaelyn]

aether, like I said, Nightwalker seems pretty suspicious...dunno for sure, though. I think he's been shadier than Crow, really.

[Ara (Crow)]

Dec 28, 2010 18:39:10 GMT -8 aether said:

I'm voting for Crow unless she can give me a good reason not to, or unless someone can give me a better reason to vote for someone else.

Because I'm not really trying to defend myself. As stated before, those who are more inclined into protecting themselves would keep their slate clean your the beginning. I didn't even come into anything until the 7th page.

[aether]

Dec 28, 2010 18:50:44 GMT -8 Ara (Crow) said:

Dec 28, 2010 18:39:10 GMT -8 aether said:

I'm voting for Crow unless she can give me a good reason not to, or unless someone can give me a better reason to vote for someone else.

Because I'm not really trying to defend myself. As stated before, those who are more inclined into protecting themselves would keep their slate clean your the beginning. I didn't even come into anything until the 7th page.

I don't understand where this logic comes from. Everyone should want to defend themselves. If you feel that you could be of some value to the villagers in the game, then you should want to defend yourself.

[Phaelyn]

Dec 28, 2010 18:52:08 GMT -8 aether said:

Dec 28, 2010 18:50:44 GMT -8 Ara (Crow) said:

Because I'm not really trying to defend myself. As stated before, those who are more inclined into protecting themselves would keep their slate clean your the beginning. I didn't even come into anything until the 7th page.

I don't understand where this logic comes from. Everyone should want to defend themselves. If you feel that you could be of some value to the villagers in the game, then you should want to defend yourself.

I seem to think he mentioned something about not getting a welcome PM, but as I said, I skimmed that's my main source of suspicion, really.

[Ara (Crow)]

Dec 28, 2010 18:52:08 GMT -8 aether said:

Dec 28, 2010 18:50:44 GMT -8 Ara (Crow) said:

Because I'm not really trying to defend myself. As stated before, those who are more inclined into protecting themselves would keep their slate clean your the beginning. I didn't even come into anything until the 7th page.

I don't understand where this logic comes from. Everyone should want to defend themselves. If you feel that you could be of some value to the villagers in the game, then you should want to defend yourself.

Perhaps my own logic doesn't make sense. Recall in the last game one of the Mafia members hardly posted or took part in any of the arguments and debating. If worse comes to worse, the truth will be revealed.