GT Mafia: Round 2 ((Post-Game))

[aether]

Dec 28, 2010 18:55:52 GMT -8 Ara (Crow) said:

Dec 28, 2010 18:52:08 GMT -8 aether said:

I don't understand where this logic comes from. Everyone should want to defend themselves. If you feel that you could be of some value to the villagers in the game, then you should want to defend yourself.

Perhaps my own logic doesn't make sense. Recall in the last game one of the Mafia members hardly posted or took part in any of the arguments and debating. If worse comes to worse, the truth will be revealed.

Out of the four mafia members last game, one hardly posted, one posted all the time, and the other two posted in the middle.

There are plenty of strategies to use as a mafia member, and all of them are just as likely. I don't think it would be a good idea to use that as a basis this early.

[Thesealion]

I feel like you guys randomly chose Crow. I really don't think she is mafia so i wont vote for her unless it will create a lynch at the last second.

[aether]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Crow isn't a mafia member. I retract my vote.

[**hp]

I think Ryan says too much. Fatal mistake for someone trying to cover their tracks. Even if he isn't mafia, at least it'll be less to read.

I vote for Ryan

[Ryan Roos]

Dec 28, 2010 22:16:30 GMT -8 **hp said:

I think Ryan says too much. Fatal mistake for someone trying to cover their tracks. Even if he isn't mafia, at least it'll be less to read.

I vote for Ryan

*sigh* Seriously you guys will regret lynching me, if it comes to that.

I only vote Crow because of Pat. It is random, but honestly what else do we have to go on. IT IS DAY 1. Pat picked Crow based on some "logged-in-not-posting" strategy. That's the only reason anyone has given for anyone that I've seen. Until I suddenly see magic evidence for someone else Crow is my random pick with Patrick.

If we don't group together against someone then there will be no lynching and the mafia will kill another one of us.

We all just need to decide who it's going to be. As I said I vote Crow but I will change my vote if there is a popular vote towards the end of the day. Because honestly a popular vote is just as valid as any reason Pat's given.

[Former Member]

Ryan, what if this is a trick from the Mafia? Were all the Villagers join a corrupted cause which will lead to their own demise. I'll wait to see how this "Neighbourhood Watch" goes before I think about signing up. Besides, the Villagers should be able to add their own two cents, rather than be pushed into making decisions. It's very much like peer pressure, and to be honest I think all the Villagers who really want to talk about removing the Mafia should PM me. It will remain anonymous, so yeah.

My vote is still for Ricky

[Shiraz]

Dec 28, 2010 16:30:48 GMT -8 Matej said:

I've just reread the thread twice and some of the old one, and Ryan did change a bit, like Syko said, but actually checking it, I saw an odd pattern.

Shiraz seems to be completely neutral, only to make people think otherwise of what they believe.

So I'm changing my vote to Shiraz.

I'd urge people to reread Shiraz's posts, could be that I'm just mad, or that it's indeed that.

I'm completely neutral because I have yet to decide who to vote for. That shouldn't mean anything. And I did say I was only posting what I think, and if anyone wanted to pick up one of my ideas, then they're more than welcome. =P

I'm really most suspicious of Patrick and TheLostStocking, but seeing as neither of them will probably get lynched today, I'm still considering who to vote for.

[Former Member]

Dec 29, 2010 0:15:34 GMT -8 Shiraz said:

Dec 28, 2010 16:30:48 GMT -8 Matej said:

I've just reread the thread twice and some of the old one, and Ryan did change a bit, like Syko said, but actually checking it, I saw an odd pattern.

Shiraz seems to be completely neutral, only to make people think otherwise of what they believe.

So I'm changing my vote to Shiraz.

I'd urge people to reread Shiraz's posts, could be that I'm just mad, or that it's indeed that.

I'm completely neutral because I have yet to decide who to vote for. That shouldn't mean anything. And I did say I was only posting what I think, and if anyone wanted to pick up one of my ideas, then they're more than welcome. =P

I'm really most suspicious of Patrick and TheLastStocking, but seeing as neither of them will probably get lynched today, I'm still considering who to vote for.

For what reason(s) is making you suspicious of me. You're looking more and more like a Mafia member, with your confusing posts, and the way you silently accuse people without stating your reasons for the accusations. Patrick, I believe, is a Villager also, because he seems to be using a variety of methods to pinpoint the Mafia. He's co-operating with the Villagers, and is also reasoning his beliefs. Whereas you do not, and try to distance yourself from the game and literally try to convert everyone's suspicions/beliefs. I really do think you are Mafia, and am on the verge of changing my vote.

But believe what you may about me, you will all find out that I am a Villager when and if I am lynched. Ask yourselves this, what are Shiraz's motives? Why is she implying that a variety of people may be the Mafia. Why isn't she displaying her reasons? Why hasn't she joined in most of the discussions? Her posting has only been thoroughly confusing, and I have read all sorts of accusations from what she has posted. I say we question Shiraz, and for the Detective in future to check whether she's Mafia.

[Shiraz]

Dec 29, 2010 1:38:35 GMT -8 @lostdawn said:

Dec 29, 2010 0:15:34 GMT -8 Shiraz said:

I'm completely neutral because I have yet to decide who to vote for. That shouldn't mean anything. And I did say I was only posting what I think, and if anyone wanted to pick up one of my ideas, then they're more than welcome. =P

I'm really most suspicious of Patrick and TheLastStocking, but seeing as neither of them will probably get lynched today, I'm still considering who to vote for.

For what reason(s) is making you suspicious of me. You're looking more and more like a Mafia member, with your confusing posts, and the way you silently accuse people without stating your reasons for the accusations. Patrick, I believe, is a Villager also, because he seems to be using a variety of methods to pinpoint the Mafia. He's co-operating with the Villagers, and is also reasoning his beliefs. Whereas you do not, and try to distance yourself from the game and literally try to convert everyone's suspicions/beliefs. I really do think you are Mafia, and am on the verge of changing my vote.

But believe what you may about me, you will all find out that I am a Villager when and if I am lynched. Ask yourselves this, what are Shiraz's motives? Why is she implying that a variety of people may be the Mafia. Why isn't she displaying her reasons? Why hasn't she joined in most of the discussions? Her posting has only been thoroughly confusing, and I have read all sorts of accusations from what she has posted. I say we question Shiraz, and for the Detective in future to check whether she's Mafia.

Alrighty, here's why I'm suspicious of both you and Patrick:

Your "voting someone out instead of voting out none because it's in the best interest of the villagers" mentality. I completely disagree with it. How is that in the best interest of the villagers? For all you know, you could be voting out a villager or worse, the detective or the doctor. It's actually in the best interest of the Mafia, because they know who their fellow mafia are, and they want to eliminate the rest very quickly, which is basically what you're doing.

Voting Crow out because she has not posted yet does not seem at all logical to me, because it could apply to anyone, it's not fair that she got all the blame simply because of that. And the same goes to wanting to vote Ricky out because he didn't vote himself. =P

You could say you're a villager, but then again, any Mafia member could say the same thing to lead us into a false sense of security. I could say that I'm a villager too, but does that necessarily mean that I'm telling the truth? =]


I think I'll just set in my vote now, regardless of who gets lynched.

My vote is for TheLostStocking.

[Former Member]

Dec 29, 2010 1:58:30 GMT -8 Shiraz said:

Dec 29, 2010 1:38:35 GMT -8 @lostdawn said:

For what reason(s) is making you suspicious of me. You're looking more and more like a Mafia member, with your confusing posts, and the way you silently accuse people without stating your reasons for the accusations. Patrick, I believe, is a Villager also, because he seems to be using a variety of methods to pinpoint the Mafia. He's co-operating with the Villagers, and is also reasoning his beliefs. Whereas you do not, and try to distance yourself from the game and literally try to convert everyone's suspicions/beliefs. I really do think you are Mafia, and am on the verge of changing my vote.

But believe what you may about me, you will all find out that I am a Villager when and if I am lynched. Ask yourselves this, what are Shiraz's motives? Why is she implying that a variety of people may be the Mafia. Why isn't she displaying her reasons? Why hasn't she joined in most of the discussions? Her posting has only been thoroughly confusing, and I have read all sorts of accusations from what she has posted. I say we question Shiraz, and for the Detective in future to check whether she's Mafia.

Alrighty, here's why I'm suspicious of both you and Patrick:

Your "voting someone out instead of voting out none because it's in the best interest of the villagers" mentality. I completely disagree with it. How is that in the best interest of the villagers? For all you know, you could be voting out a villager or worse, the detective or the doctor. It's actually in the best interest of the Mafia, because they know who their fellow mafia are, and they want to eliminate the rest very quickly, which is basically what you're doing.

Voting Crow out because she has not posted yet does not seem at all logical to me, because it could apply to anyone, it's not fair that she got all the blame simply because of that. And the same goes to wanting to vote Ricky out because he didn't vote himself. =P

You could say you're a villager, but then again, any Mafia member could say the same thing to lead us into a false sense of security. I could say that I'm a villager too, but does that necessarily mean that I'm telling the truth? =]


I think I'll just set in my vote now, regardless of who gets lynched.

My vote is for TheLostStocking.

Hmm, okay.

Right to begin with it's best for the Villagers because if we always just go "lets not vote" then the Mafia are free to kill again in the night. If however, the Villagers form alliances mutual or not, we can then together reveal who really are the Mafia. I find it funny how you set your vote upon me, in a desperate attempt to be rid of the threat. It's simple. You're a Mafia member, who really can't stand to be revealed. You at first lurked here, suggesting members to confuse the votes, in an attempt to cause no lynch. By doing this you then remove all the big threats, leaving the Villagers vulnerable each round. Losing the best of the flock each night.

I am against voting for Crow, as I'm also currently against the Neighbourhood Watch until they sort themselves out. I'd rather let her her go this round, and observe her behaviour the next. Voting for Ricky is the perfect idea. Most people here knew that Ricky pulling his vote out for the round was fishy, and possibly another "No lynch" tactic that he tried to subtly play.

You could say your a Villager, but I wouldn't believe you now. A lot of people are starting to smell the bad odour of the Mafia coming from you Shiraz. By voting for me you have accomplished nothing, you will not strum it into anyone that I am Mafia. I so far have been very actively posting and contacting people, just to make sure that connections can be made to seal the Mafia's fate. If anybody thinks I'm Mafia, vote for me then. I don't care, but just realize the consequence of doing so.

As a very stubborn person, my vote will not change. You wont succeed this round Shiraz, be sure of that. Next round you are on my hit list, however.

My vote remains Ricky

[Shiraz]

Dec 29, 2010 2:49:07 GMT -8 @lostdawn said:

Dec 29, 2010 1:58:30 GMT -8 Shiraz said:

Alrighty, here's why I'm suspicious of both you and Patrick:

Your "voting someone out instead of voting out none because it's in the best interest of the villagers" mentality. I completely disagree with it. How is that in the best interest of the villagers? For all you know, you could be voting out a villager or worse, the detective or the doctor. It's actually in the best interest of the Mafia, because they know who their fellow mafia are, and they want to eliminate the rest very quickly, which is basically what you're doing.

Voting Crow out because she has not posted yet does not seem at all logical to me, because it could apply to anyone, it's not fair that she got all the blame simply because of that. And the same goes to wanting to vote Ricky out because he didn't vote himself. =P

You could say you're a villager, but then again, any Mafia member could say the same thing to lead us into a false sense of security. I could say that I'm a villager too, but does that necessarily mean that I'm telling the truth? =]


I think I'll just set in my vote now, regardless of who gets lynched.

My vote is for TheLostStocking.

Hmm, okay.

Right to begin with it's best for the Villagers because if we always just go "lets not vote" then the Mafia are free to kill again in the night. If however, the Villagers form alliances mutual or not, we can then together reveal who really are the Mafia. I find it funny how you set your vote upon me, in a desperate attempt to be rid of the threat. It's simple. You're a Mafia member, who really can't stand to be revealed. You at first lurked here, suggesting members to confuse the votes, in an attempt to cause no lynch. By doing this you then remove all the big threats, leaving the Villagers vulnerable each round. Losing the best of the flock each night.

I am against voting for Crow, as I'm also currently against the Neighbourhood Watch until they sort themselves out. I'd rather let her her go this round, and observe her behaviour the next. Voting for Ricky is the perfect idea. Most people here knew that Ricky pulling his vote out for the round was fishy, and possibly another "No lynch" tactic that he tried to subtly play.

You could say your a Villager, but I wouldn't believe you now. A lot of people are starting to smell the bad odour of the Mafia coming from you Shiraz. By voting for me you have accomplished nothing, you will not strum it into anyone that I am Mafia. I so far have been very actively posting and contacting people, just to make sure that connections can be made to seal the Mafia's fate. If anybody thinks I'm Mafia, vote for me then. I don't care, but just realize the consequence of doing so.

As a very stubborn person, my vote will not change. You wont succeed this round Shiraz, be sure of that. Next round you are on my hit list, however.

My vote remains Ricky

Desperate attempt? Really? So... if I vote I'm a Mafia, if I don't vote I'm a Mafia. There's just no winning with you, is there? Just because I don't want to go with the mob doesn't mean I'm guilty. Also, I never said that I want to avoid a lynch; only that people should think this thoroughly before voting at random and going with everyone else.

Villagers can't form alliances because you don't know who the villagers are. =X That just doesn't add up. I can't trust anyone even if they say they're a villager, because it's just so incredibly simple to lie about it. And I seriously don't care if you think that I'm a Mafia or that I'm on your hit list. If you want to accuse me, be my guest. It's not going to change what I think.

Oh, and one more thing, there's really no consequence to voting you out. Just like, according to you, there's no consequence to voting any other person in the first round out.

[Former Member]

Dec 29, 2010 3:13:56 GMT -8 Shiraz said:

Dec 29, 2010 2:49:07 GMT -8 @lostdawn said:

Hmm, okay.

Right to begin with it's best for the Villagers because if we always just go "lets not vote" then the Mafia are free to kill again in the night. If however, the Villagers form alliances mutual or not, we can then together reveal who really are the Mafia. I find it funny how you set your vote upon me, in a desperate attempt to be rid of the threat. It's simple. You're a Mafia member, who really can't stand to be revealed. You at first lurked here, suggesting members to confuse the votes, in an attempt to cause no lynch. By doing this you then remove all the big threats, leaving the Villagers vulnerable each round. Losing the best of the flock each night.

I am against voting for Crow, as I'm also currently against the Neighbourhood Watch until they sort themselves out. I'd rather let her her go this round, and observe her behaviour the next. Voting for Ricky is the perfect idea. Most people here knew that Ricky pulling his vote out for the round was fishy, and possibly another "No lynch" tactic that he tried to subtly play.

You could say your a Villager, but I wouldn't believe you now. A lot of people are starting to smell the bad odour of the Mafia coming from you Shiraz. By voting for me you have accomplished nothing, you will not strum it into anyone that I am Mafia. I so far have been very actively posting and contacting people, just to make sure that connections can be made to seal the Mafia's fate. If anybody thinks I'm Mafia, vote for me then. I don't care, but just realize the consequence of doing so.

As a very stubborn person, my vote will not change. You wont succeed this round Shiraz, be sure of that. Next round you are on my hit list, however.

My vote remains Ricky

Desperate attempt? Really? So... if I vote I'm a Mafia, if I don't vote I'm a Mafia. There's just no winning with you, is there? Just because I don't want to go with the mob doesn't mean I'm guilty. Also, I never said that I want to avoid a lynch; only that people should think this thoroughly before voting at random and going with everyone else.

Villagers can't form alliances because you don't know who the villagers are. =X That just doesn't add up. I can't trust anyone even if they say they're a villager, because it's just so incredibly simple to lie about it. And I seriously don't care if you think that I'm a Mafia or that I'm on your hit list. If you want to accuse me, be my guest. It's not going to change what I think.

Oh, and one more thing, there's really no consequence to voting you out. Just like, according to you, there's no consequence to voting any other person in the first round out.

No you look like a Mafia by the way you are acting. By the way you tried to lurk and confuse, and then when clocked, you turn to me and try to make me out to be a Mafia. There is no "mob", except for the Neighbourhood Watch, which as I stated I am not a part of. I merely stated that I have got in touch with people I believe to be Villagers. I will not say any names, as I like to keep cards to my chest if you understand. I reveal what needs to be revealed.

Villagers can form alliances, as the Mafia in this game are going to try and cause No lynch, repeatedly. So we can tell from behaviour, and the votes who's who. As I said before, I'm not 100% sure of anybody being Villager or Mafia. But I can make guesses and use my instincts. I'm starting to believe you might be more Mafia then Ricky, in fact, I'm starting to believe Ricky might not be Mafia. Also, you stated that "it's stupid to vote for somebody just because their not voting", and also it's only recently you've stopped pointing the finger at people and finally voted for somebody. Me.

I merely said that you're on my hit list, because I know you will come after me next round. Hoping to bring a Villager down. The consequence of removing me, is you're removing somebody who wants to work closely with the Villagers. A team player, not a soloist.

I wish to stop arguing with you, because it is doing nothing for the game other than confuse people. I wish for there to be a lynch this round.

[Syko Nachoman]

Dec 28, 2010 20:41:26 GMT -8 Thesealion said:

I feel like you guys randomly chose Crow. I really don't think she is mafia so i wont vote for her (...)

See, that's what I was thinking. That's also partly why I'm suspicious of Pat.

Between Ricky and Ryan, Ryan is looking a little more suspicious now, though I have no idea what the vote total is. I think it's now split 6 ways, though. Anyway, I'm changing my vote to Ryan for now; if we still haven't reached a consensus by the time I get home around 5:00 (which seems likely ) I'll consider changing it back to Ricky.

[Former Member]

Dec 29, 2010 5:02:06 GMT -8 Syko Nachoman said:

Dec 28, 2010 20:41:26 GMT -8 Thesealion said:

I feel like you guys randomly chose Crow. I really don't think she is mafia so i wont vote for her (...)

See, that's what I was thinking. That's also partly why I'm suspicious of Pat.

Between Ricky and Ryan, Ryan is looking a little more suspicious now, though I have no idea what the vote total is. I think it's now split 6 ways, though. Anyway, I'm changing my vote to Ryan for now; if we still haven't reached a consensus by the time I get home around 5:00 (which seems likely ) I'll consider changing it back to Ricky.

Okay, okay. So if this is how it goes, then I guess I must give in. The Neighbourhood Watch needed a new leader anyway, so. Yeah. I think I'll go with the rest on this:

My vote goes to Ryan

[Phaelyn]

lost Stocking -- maybe we should keep Ryan around for another round? If you check out the last thread, he was really 'passionate' with his responses, as he was trying to steer attention away from him being mafia. In this round, he's obviously not doing that. It could be because he's not threatened, or because he's trying a different strategy, but I think it'd be worth it to let him stay for at least one more round. This way, we can see how things go...if he's a villager, he'll be a powerful ally, I think.

I still don't know who to vote for, by the way. Everyone seems just about equally suspicious right now, with no real evidence in any way

edit;; that's not to say that I don't want a lynch at all -- we need someone dead this round to help us figure out who the mafia is. I personally am just waiting for someone to be more suspicious than another, y'know?