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Post by Mac on Aug 24, 2013 21:45:44 GMT -8
Same thing happens for me..
Ever since I started paying for ad free.. suddenly I get thousands and thousands of more views. It's BS and I regret getting ad free.
It doesn't last more then 4 days.
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Post by Brian on Aug 25, 2013 8:55:16 GMT -8
Hi,
Exactly where were you getting the information for how many views you got prior to purchasing ad-free?
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Post by Brian on Aug 25, 2013 9:35:34 GMT -8
Can you post the link to the forum in question?
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Post by Brian on Aug 25, 2013 13:51:46 GMT -8
Could you guys go ahead and add this IP address to your forum's ban list?
108.178.60.2
It looks to be a web crawler that was constantly searching the site. I also suggest going to Upgrades > Ad-Free > Settings and turning ads back on for guests as well (set Remove Ads For Guests to No), as that will prevent any web crawler from eating your pageviews.
Giving guests ad-free is the largest culprit of ad-free pageview consumption.
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Post by Brian on Aug 25, 2013 14:10:41 GMT -8
It's not just limited to that web crawler -- any search engine's web crawler can cause that to happen (such as Google, Yahoo, Bing, etc.). Hence why we offer the option to keep ads on for guests so they don't unnecessarily eat up pageviews.
For this reason, I'm unable to refund your ad-free pageviews. If you're looking to preserve your ad-free for users actively participating on your forum, keep ad-free off for guests.
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Post by blueshead on Aug 25, 2013 14:24:06 GMT -8
Admin/ Themes/ Layout Templates/ Forum Wrapper
Put this between the <head> tags at the top. It will tell Google and Yahoo bots not to index your page. It does not work for Baidu bots.
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow, noarchive, nosnippet, noodp">
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Post by Brian on Aug 25, 2013 14:49:48 GMT -8
So you are telling us that we have a forum for over a year always left the ad free the same way, guest too. And just when you change the pricing and offer pro rated we get a web spider who eats that all up causing the purchase of more and then a few days later the purchase of even more. This never has happened in a year and it just suddenly does? It's hard to believe man. V4 wasn't optimized for search engines, and thus didn't receive the same attention from web crawlers. They indexed less of the forum, resulting in less pageviews on their part. V5 is much more SEO friendly, allowing much more detailed indexing of forums to make them show in a more professional manner. The search engine can index more of the site (which as you can guess requires more pages to be viewed) and thus output a much more complete set of results from the web search.  In short, we're not trying to make you suck up any more ad-free and have no intention of doing so (especially in a shady fashion), and the option is there to prevent search engines from eating it. |
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Post by Brian on Aug 25, 2013 15:19:03 GMT -8
Search engines can come across your forum at any time. It's not limited to the moment you update.
We haven't changed the pricing at all since V5 was released. The ad-free plans we've had on the purchase page are the same ones that have been available for V5 forums since its release in April. I don't know where you're getting that information from.
Subscription-based payments are based on usage. You're still paying for the same amount of ad-free, but any additional ad-free you use will also be added to your payment (pending whether you've allowed overages on that subscription). If you don't have overages enabled on a subscription-based payment, the ads simply start showing again once all your available ad-free for that month is expended and we don't charge you any extra.
Again, we don't randomly change the prices. I agree that would be beyond ridiculous. Any increases or decreases in your payments were based on your usage and whether you allowed overages.
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Post by Heathenpride on Aug 25, 2013 21:47:18 GMT -8
This won't resolve the issue of your used credits but I do have a solution for the guests using ad-free situation. The below assumes you do not wish to restrict registration which is what I would do if it were me. If I was in your position I would switch off add free for guests. I would then install this plug-in (by Peter) and create a message with settings only seen by guests who are not logged in. The message would inform them that forum ads are disabled for registered users and simply logging on, or registering, will remove them. If set to guests only your logged in users won't see the message, only those who aren't logged in. This will ensure that any bot presence on your page will not eat up page views and your potential members will be informed about the presence of the ads. On top of that it's an amazing plug-in in general, loads of uses but it would be ideal for the above situation. Good luck with it  HP |
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Aug 25, 2013 21:57:49 GMT -8
I agree that keeping the ads for guests is the way to go. But if bots don't index your sites, how do get a web presence and increase membership? If you're a closed, private forum not looking for additional members then that's not an issue. But if you want exposure and more members, SEO optimization is vital.
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Post by Heathenpride on Aug 26, 2013 0:36:59 GMT -8
I agree that keeping the ads for guests is the way to go. But if bots don't index your sites, how do get a web presence and increase membership? If you're a closed, private forum not looking for additional members then that's not an issue. But if you want exposure and more members, SEO optimization is vital. Which is exactly my situation, my site is private so there is no issue for me. Surely bots will still index the page if ads are showing though? Sounds to me to be a great way to save those precious credits but also to not impact members, if someone chooses not to enter because there are ads, despite a message explaining members get free ad free, then that's their choice I guess. Can't imagine there would be a lot of that going on though surely? |
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Aug 26, 2013 0:47:30 GMT -8
Hi Heathenpride  just my opinion, but I don't think seeing or not seeing ads are what attracts new members. It's if your site and the content from members is something they are interested in. So I definitely would have ads showing for guests when going ad free ~ and yes, bots will index your site with or without ads. And they'll show up as guests even when boards are completely blocked from view in maintenance mode. |
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Post by Heathenpride on Aug 26, 2013 1:20:23 GMT -8
Hi Heathenpride just my opinion, but I don't think seeing or not seeing ads are what attracts new members. It's if your site and the content from members is something they are interested in. So I definitely would have ads showing for guests when going ad free ~ and yes, bots will index your site with or without ads. And they'll show up as guests even when boards are completely blocked from view in maintenance mode. Precisely what I thought ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥, so there's no disadvantage for switching ads on for guests and you get the added bonus of knowing that only your real members are using up those dollars  |
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Aug 26, 2013 1:25:38 GMT -8
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Post by testing321 on Aug 26, 2013 7:45:10 GMT -8
None of this is why this thread was started. Why does the subject keep going to how we handle ad free? We already know the ad free system having had the forum for more then a year.
This also was a post for an PB admin help.
The issue is that as soon as we changed to re-occurring the ad free we use for a month (and have every month for a year) was gone in 2 weeks. We knew something was off but reluctantly purchased an amount that it takes us 3 weeks to use. Suddenly a few days later that was gone. Again we monitor views and knew something was wrong.
Again we purchased more, an amount it takes 2 weeks to use and that amount was gone in less then a day. Having had the forum for over a year we find it fishy to say the least that this almost double amount used happened at no other time just when we added re-occurring payments.
So the question was (for a PB admin), is this a fixable issue or is the forum we have had and paid for for over a year now unpredictable in it's pricing. It's just very weird this only happened this one time when we allowed PB to do re-occurring payments. Obvioulsly giving a whole new amount of money to PB each time the amounts purchased disappears in less then a day when it normally takes weeks to use that amount.
Why would we have to completely change everything we have done for over a year with regard to ad free settings suddenly when re-occurring payments was allowed. Something is not right here at all.
We need to know so we can make our decision about taking the forum elsewhere so monthly costs are something we can at least know will be a certain amount. We had that up until re-occurring payments with PB.
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