Indication of PM Received

[cityguy]

Forum URL: cityspeak.proboards.com/

Is there any way of telling if a PM has been received, as there once was?

If not, is there any plan to re-include it in the future?

If not, why not?

[moonbeam]

They removed that feature with v5, and I don't think they're bringing it back. This post may help explain:

support.proboards.com/post/5748294/thread

[David Clark]

Confirming the above - with v5's restructuring of the messaging system to allow threaded conversations with multiple participants, handling data that reflects who has read what is a considerable implementation for our devs.

I'm not aware of any plans to re-include it in the immediate future since many who expressed privacy concerns were relieved to see it had been removed. If I become aware of any developments concerning this feature, however, I'll let you know since I know you've wanted to see this one put back in, cityguy.

[cityguy]

Thanks Moon and David. Under the heading of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," I'd like to argue for the reinstatement of that feature.

A response I've seen in the above link concerning this change has been that it "was removed due to popular request." Was there a poll taken? Could it be that the reason there was no mass request to keep the feature was because it wasn't generally known to have been in consideration?

Another explanation offered for the change is, "v5's restructuring of the messaging system to allow threaded conversations with multiple participants."

While there might be an occasion to share a Private Messages between multiple participants, I would expect that PMs would most likely take place between two individuals. Isn't that the very definition... and purpose... of a Private message?

In particular, as an administrator I'd like to know that a member has received a PM from me, as well as me from them.

Please consider adding this to the list for the next update. I truly don't see how reinstating an indication of a PM received is harmful to anyone, or that it compromises privacy. In fact, if we're talking about PMs, doesn't it enhance it?

[moonbeam]

Apr 14, 2014 23:10:17 GMT -8 cityguy said:

While there might be an occasion to share a Private Messages between multiple participants, I would expect that PMs would most likely take place between two individuals. Isn't that the very definition... and purpose... of a Private message?

Yes, but in v5, it's not limited to two people in the PM. You mention sharing, but this is different. This is having multiple people in the conversation from the very beginning - just like how you can send email to as many people as you want - and their responses go to everyone else in that message as well.

[Brian]

Apr 14, 2014 23:10:17 GMT -8 cityguy said:

Under the heading of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it," I'd like to argue for the reinstatement of that feature.

That phrase never works with us.

[Michael]

I wasn't gonna say anything but you just had to mention the phrase that I hate most in the world.

There are no plans to bring this back for any reason. The restructured messaging system with multiple recipients does not allow it. You make a solid argument, but no more solid than the opposite argument.

[mmhmm]

I don't think it's true to say PMs are primarily between just two people. While it might be true for you, on our board the multiple recipient option is used quite often and is very helpful.

[Matt11239]

Hey, I was just going to let you know that if you go here: www.proboards.com/library/plugins/item/248 you can get a plugin that informs you when you get a PM.

[moonbeam]

Yes, but what the OP was really asking about is if there's a way to tell if someone had read it, or not. Or, at least that's how I interpreted his question. Perhaps I totally misunderstood. Wouldn't be the first time!

sent from my Galaxy S4

[Matt11239]

Hey its fine At least what you and I both said had to do with PMs.

[cityguy]

If I wanted to include multiple recipients, I wouldn't send a "private message." But, if that were for some reason necessary, I'd send them individual messages.

[Michael]

Just because you choose not to use the feature doesn't mean that others don't!

[moonbeam]

If I wanted to include multiple recipients, I wouldn't send a "private message." But, if that were for some reason necessary, I'd send them individual messages.

Okay, so what if you wanted to have a discussion with all of your staff members about a contest or something. It could be anything, really. The point is that you want to have input from all of your staff about this. Why would you send individual messages instead of one group message? If you send it to everyone all at once then everyone can see what everyone else is thinking, and you can have an actual discussion of the main board.

Food for thought only.


sent from my Galaxy S4

[cityguy]

The notion that I might wish to message more than one person simultaneously is a secondary issue, but since it's been raised as a defense, I'd think that the practice is minimal compared to the number of times a person would wish to PM an individual. If there's an outcry by an overwhelming majority of Proboard users requesting to have that ability, I've never come across it.

My main and initial question simply had to do with the sender receiving feedback that the PM was opened and hopefully read by the recipient. As an Admin, if I send a message of any sort, either positive or negative to a member, it's now easy for them to reply that they never received the PM, and therefore, there must be something wrong with Proboards.