I wish Proboards would update moderation where

[Thomasss]

To be honest, I think this would be nice to have.

I mean, I run a myBB forum, (needed my own server and what not and PB is not opensourced software. ) and I also moderate a very popular gaming forum which also has ban messages..

Yes, they might not always be needed, however bans are not always permanent. I see the banning system as another layer of the warning system, you warn them, they get that message, they just can't get into the account.

And who said the ban would be for the same thing? We could warn them for something, and they can get banned for a whole different reason.

Yes, we could email them. However that takes time, and they might not always get the message, or their provider would mark it as spam.


So yes, it's not needed in some cases, and in others, it's greatly appreciated.


That, and it just saves people from explaining it, or the angry banned person from accusing of  a false ban; since they might not even know why. 


Or, if someone was banned by mistake, they can take that ban message and take action. Whereas now, it's a white screen with no contact info; at all.

[Former Member]

Jul 1, 2014 18:59:14 GMT -8 Thomasss said:

To be honest, I think this would be nice to have.

I mean, I run a myBB forum, (needed my own server and what not and PB is not opensourced software. ) and I also moderate a very popular gaming forum which also has ban messages..

Yes, they might not always be needed, however bans are not always permanent. I see the banning system as another layer of the warning system, you warn them, they get that message, they just can't get into the account.

And who said the ban would be for the same thing? We could warn them for something, and they can get banned for a whole different reason.

Yes, we could email them. However that takes time, and they might not always get the message, or their provider would mark it as spam.


So yes, it's not needed in some cases, and in others, it's greatly appreciated.


That, and it just saves people from explaining it, or the angry banned person from accusing of  a false ban; since they might not even know why. 


Or, if someone was banned by mistake, they can take that ban message and take action. Whereas now, it's a white screen with no contact info; at all.

Yes,thanks for proving my point. Seeing "You have been banned from this forum" is not very clear. 

[mmhmm]

Jul 1, 2014 18:59:14 GMT -8 Thomasss said:

To be honest, I think this would be nice to have.

I mean, I run a myBB forum, (needed my own server and what not and PB is not opensourced software. ) and I also moderate a very popular gaming forum which also has ban messages..

Yes, they might not always be needed, however bans are not always permanent. I see the banning system as another layer of the warning system, you warn them, they get that message, they just can't get into the account.

And who said the ban would be for the same thing? We could warn them for something, and they can get banned for a whole different reason.

Yes, we could email them. However that takes time, and they might not always get the message, or their provider would mark it as spam.


So yes, it's not needed in some cases, and in others, it's greatly appreciated.


That, and it just saves people from explaining it, or the angry banned person from accusing of  a false ban; since they might not even know why. 


Or, if someone was banned by mistake, they can take that ban message and take action. Whereas now, it's a white screen with no contact info; at all.

It's better to use the disable function if the ban isn't to be permanent. That will tell them the length of time their account will be disabled and they can still read. They just can't post. An email could still be sent to explain, if required.

[Thomasss]

Jul 1, 2014 19:53:08 GMT -8 mmhmm said:

Jul 1, 2014 18:59:14 GMT -8 Thomasss said:

To be honest, I think this would be nice to have.

I mean, I run a myBB forum, (needed my own server and what not and PB is not opensourced software. ) and I also moderate a very popular gaming forum which also has ban messages..

Yes, they might not always be needed, however bans are not always permanent. I see the banning system as another layer of the warning system, you warn them, they get that message, they just can't get into the account.

And who said the ban would be for the same thing? We could warn them for something, and they can get banned for a whole different reason.

Yes, we could email them. However that takes time, and they might not always get the message, or their provider would mark it as spam.


So yes, it's not needed in some cases, and in others, it's greatly appreciated.


That, and it just saves people from explaining it, or the angry banned person from accusing of  a false ban; since they might not even know why. 


Or, if someone was banned by mistake, they can take that ban message and take action. Whereas now, it's a white screen with no contact info; at all.

It's better to use the disable function if the ban isn't to be permanent. That will tell them the length of time their account will be disabled and they can still read. They just can't post. An email could still be sent to explain, if required.

Disabling the account allows people to create new accounts. The entire point of this is to provide better clarification to the system that provides better security and disallows users to create new accounts, which defeats the purpose of the punishment.

[Former Member]

I personally would love a customizable ban message. I can understand it may not be necessary in most situations, but adding one doesn't harm anything, it just benefits the few scenarios where it's useful. -shrug- Just my opinion, not jumping into any debate but figured I'd point out that there are at least a handful of people interested in it--solely for when developers look at this later in the future and want to see if it even has any interest from members. ^^ Ohkey, interest shown, that's all. xD

[Former Member]

The way I imagine it is that it would be one of the features within the "Ban user" button.
It let's you adjust the ban's time amount,leave a notice,and which type of ban,but it does not give you the ability to leave a note for the banned user to see! As stated before,it couldn't be done as a plug-in or template change because some parts of the site are not bale to be edited,not even the main admin. It seems like it would be good to be included where you adjust the settings of the ban. it also would seem good if they could add the message through "Staff Options". 

[moonbeam]

Jul 1, 2014 18:16:38 GMT -8 peteetongman said:

Jun 26, 2014 15:16:50 GMT -8 moonbeam said:

I get what you're saying. But as David said, there should be very few instances where someone can't figure out all on their own why they were banned. If they know the rules of the forum and disregard them, as well as ignore warnings, then they deserve to be banned and I don't feel providing a reason should be necessary. And, if they really can't figure it out, then my email address is plainly posted. They can contact me that way.

"....there should be very few instances where someone can't figure out all on their own why they were banned..."

like a guessing game, right?    nah I don't buy that

We have rules on our forum. Rules that *we* actually enforce (unlike others who have them but they're just for show). Our members get warned in threads as well as by PM if they're skirting the line. If they choose to ignore those warnings, they may get banned. And yes, I'd say in that case there should be NO guessing as to why they were banned. We also don't just ban willy nilly for stupid reasons (or no reason) unlike other forums. So again, there would be no guessing involved.

[CheatAreZee]

Just wanted to re-iterate that this has been marked as a feature request for our devs to consider in the future

[peteetongman]

Jul 2, 2014 2:40:09 GMT -8 moonbeam said:

Jul 1, 2014 18:16:38 GMT -8 peteetongman said:

"....there should be very few instances where someone can't figure out all on their own why they were banned..."

like a guessing game, right?    nah I don't buy that

We have rules on our forum. Rules that *we* actually enforce (unlike others who have them but they're just for show). Our members get warned in threads as well as by PM if they're skirting the line. If they choose to ignore those warnings, they may get banned. And yes, I'd say in that case there should be NO guessing as to why they were banned. We also don't just ban willy nilly for stupid reasons (or no reason) unlike other forums. So again, there would be no guessing involved.

no need to get all hot about it.  ricky says they are considering it

[moonbeam]

That's all well and good, and to be honest, I really don't care one way or the other so I have no skin in the game.

My response was to your own comment, and to the best of my knowledge, not against the rules.

[Former Member]

Well in my opinion it's good that we are debating the topic- as long as it does not break the rules or become personal. I think suggestions should be debated such as pros and cons and why or why not is has benefits.

[RedBassett]

For the record, this has been requested in the past, IIRC, and was rejected at that time. I believe that the reasoning was that bans are usually only implemented as a final step in a list of moderating actions (warn the member by PM first few times, account disable for a few days, finally ban) (except cases like spammers where you don't care what they see), and because of this, the member would already have a good idea of why they were being banned.

By no means does this mean that they won't consider adding it, just historical context.

[Wormopolis]

A question/expansion about this.

When a user sees the ban message, the system at some point knew who they were before writing the HTML to the page, correct?

if it isnt feasible to add a ban message to the existing system, how difficult would it be to allow a super user key to still write to the page for a banned member? and I guess hand-in-hand with that, allow a plugin to actually run while looking at that ban screen (since I dont think any headers or footers hit that page either)?

[blc]

Jul 1, 2014 20:31:00 GMT -8 ₪» ⅀ ƪ Ƒ «₪ said:

I personally would love a customizable ban message. I can understand it may not be necessary in most situations, but adding one doesn't harm anything, it just benefits the few scenarios where it's useful. -shrug- Just my opinion, not jumping into any debate but figured I'd point out that there are at least a handful of people interested in it--solely for when developers look at this later in the future and want to see if it even has any interest from members. ^^ Ohkey, interest shown, that's all. xD

I agree with you and would even like the ability to customize the disabled message.

[Former Member]

I'm not sure if bumping this is allowed,but I was thinking a page would help. Instead of just a blank white page saying "You've been banned from this forum." A page saying

Notice: You have been banned /disabled for (How long).

Moderator Note: Reason for moderation towards account 

If you would like to appeal,send it to (an email of the admin's choice)