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Post by bagheera on Jan 25, 2011 5:15:48 GMT -8
That's the joy of Christianity. You are free to use your faith however you want. You aren't restricted to just pure science and you have to believe what has tons of proof. We, however, are free to decide for ourselves if we wish to believe something or not. Replace "Christianity" with "being human" and you're right.
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Post by Robyn on Jan 25, 2011 5:40:43 GMT -8
That's the joy of Christianity. You are free to use your faith however you want. You aren't restricted to just pure science and you have to believe what has tons of proof. We, however, are free to decide for ourselves if we wish to believe something or not. Replace "Christianity" with "being human" and you're right. You are right. Christians ARE human
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Post by bagheera on Jan 25, 2011 6:12:21 GMT -8
Replace "Christianity" with "being human" and you're right. You are right. Christians ARE human Definitely, and the benefits you listed aren't solely associated with Christianity. Human beings are free to use their faith or spirituality however they want, question, doubt, decide on their beliefs for themselves, and blend it with science.
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Post by Bob on Jan 25, 2011 9:41:41 GMT -8
What's the purpose of that? Why make so many planets (many = billions of billions of them) and only one puny planet has life. How mysterious of him Any version you want. As long there are at least 2 christians that believe in it. Altough some Christians say that Nephilim and Angels (!!!!!) may be aliens you know just to be prepared That's the joy of Christianity. You are free to use your faith however you want. You aren't restricted to just pure science and you have to believe what has tons of proof. We, however, are free to decide for ourselves if we wish to believe something or not. So basically, because you're Christian you could walk around believing dragons are real and there are powerful wizards whose sole duty is to slay them over the planes of great kingdoms? Where do I sign up?
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Post by Hope Faith Love on Jan 25, 2011 9:47:54 GMT -8
That's the joy of Christianity. You are free to use your faith however you want. You aren't restricted to just pure science and you have to believe what has tons of proof. We, however, are free to decide for ourselves if we wish to believe something or not. So basically, because you're Christian you could walk around believing dragons are real and there are powerful wizards whose sole duty is to slay them over the planes of great kingdoms? Where do I sign up? Well, what Robert has said is true it's just that, I wouldn't word it like that as then you start to sound as if you're a 'cafeteria' Christian which is a really bad thing. I don't know exactly why he said that it was related to Christianity at all. If you're a Christian, you believe in Jesus, what he came to do, the sacrifice he made for everyone... However we're not mindless drones that can't think for ourselves. For example, I personally don't believe that there is life on other planets, despite there being billions of planets out there. I just don't buy into it. Any human can have this sort of viewpoint. I draw some of this from my faith but if I was proven wrong tomorrow, it would have 0% effect on my faith at all.
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Post by alexx on Jan 25, 2011 10:44:01 GMT -8
This However we're not mindless drones that can't think for ourselves. For example, I personally don't believe that there is life on other planets, despite there being billions of planets out there. I just don't buy into it. Any human can have this sort of viewpoint. is contradicted by this: I draw some of this from my faith but if I was proven wrong tomorrow, it would have 0% effect on my faith at all.
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Post by Hope Faith Love on Jan 25, 2011 10:47:11 GMT -8
This However we're not mindless drones that can't think for ourselves. For example, I personally don't believe that there is life on other planets, despite there being billions of planets out there. I just don't buy into it. Any human can have this sort of viewpoint. is contradicted by this: I draw some of this from my faith but if I was proven wrong tomorrow, it would have 0% effect on my faith at all. Why is it? If 10 legged iron men were found on planet 3ART4 tomorrow, it would have zero effect on my faith. I still hold personal opinions as well as the truth that is within me. I just don't believe that there is extraterrestrial life out there.
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Post by alexx on Jan 25, 2011 11:04:09 GMT -8
Because I understood that no evidence can influence your faith in general. And you meant alien life. My bad
But I ask: no matter what science throws at you will your faith remain the same? Let's say science through time travel finds our that Jesus was a mere mortal. Would that change your beliefs?
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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 11:04:28 GMT -8
First commandment: Exodus 20:3 - "Do not worship any other gods besides me." (NLT) From a one dimensional viewpoint, yes it means that God is a jealous God who does not share your affection for other things you idolize. However think of this: You put a massive amount of effort into writing a book, it's an absolute masterpiece of a book, say over 50000 pages... Then you start to market it but then you realize that the company you're marketing it with has said it was created by a different person! Wouldn't you be pretty unhappy? So how do you think it feels for God when he has created humankind and humans start attributing everything to something else or start worshipping something else? Now I'm going to be a little controversial now but I believe it is necessary so I'm going to write it: Other religions that claim to be 'Abrahamic' or have the same roots as Judaism is effectively like doing this: "Hey did you know? Proboards was created by a guy named Henry Clinger!" or "Hey did you know? Proboards was created by a guy named Patson Clinger." (I hope to have caused no offense by the way in using your name Patrick. So even as similar as they try to be to the truth, does that make it right? No. What then can we use to differentiate between all the different religions/beliefs that reside in the world? If you asked me, personally... It would be the word of God. Read through thoroughly with possibly a Christian helper for things you may not quite understand, this is the best way of coming to the realization, there is only one God, there is only one line of faith worth pursuing... However your own way of realization may come as a different method. In the end, God always reaches out to us at some point, however everyone has free will and yes you do have the right with your free will to claim otherwise and it's that choice that sets you down a different path. So God feels that he should be known as the Creator? What is he? Selfish? Nah. Makes no snese... A Christian helper? I can read But thanks for the offer lolz.
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Post by Hope Faith Love on Jan 25, 2011 11:10:56 GMT -8
Because I understood that no evidence can influence your faith in general. And you meant alien life. My bad But I ask: no matter what science throws at you will your faith remain the same? Let's say science through time travel finds our that Jesus was a mere mortal. Would that change your beliefs? It will never happen so there's no point in speculation on that. Well it depends... Some of the scripture may be easy to read but not always simple to interpret. Who can fathom the depths of our God? I can not claim to know what the motives behind the first commandment were. All I know is, is that I will follow and obey his commandments to the end of my days.
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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 11:13:01 GMT -8
Because I understood that no evidence can influence your faith in general. And you meant alien life. My bad But I ask: no matter what science throws at you will your faith remain the same? Let's say science through time travel finds our that Jesus was a mere mortal. Would that change your beliefs? It will never happen so there's no point in speculation on that. Well it depends... Some of the scripture may be easy to read but not always simple to interpret. Who can fathom the depths of our God? I can not claim to know what the motives behind the first commandment were. All I know is, is that I will follow and obey his commandments to the end of my days. God gave you the ability to think so that...um...you do as said without thinking? Then why would you care about a book you can't even interpret?
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Post by Ryan Roos on Jan 25, 2011 11:15:11 GMT -8
That's the joy of Christianity. You are free to use your faith however you want. You aren't restricted to just pure science and you have to believe what has tons of proof. We, however, are free to decide for ourselves if we wish to believe something or not. The fact that you are simultaneously aware of this and not aware of the problem with it shows that I will never ever reach you Robert.
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Post by Hope Faith Love on Jan 25, 2011 11:15:51 GMT -8
It will never happen so there's no point in speculation on that. Well it depends... Some of the scripture may be easy to read but not always simple to interpret. Who can fathom the depths of our God? I can not claim to know what the motives behind the first commandment were. All I know is, is that I will follow and obey his commandments to the end of my days. God gave you the ability to think so that...um...you do as said without thinking? Then why would you care about a book you can't even interpret? I can interpret it, it's not always easy to interpret on the first glance however and sometimes it needs an outside source to enable you to clarify your thoughts on something. Also, in the past, I have been an atheist... Believing in nothing. I have a testimony if you wish to read it. It's long though so if you want, I'll PM it to you.
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Post by Rick Ace on Jan 25, 2011 11:16:51 GMT -8
God gave you the ability to think so that...um...you do as said without thinking? Then why would you care about a book you can't even interpret? I can interpret it, it's not always easy to interpret on the first glance however and sometimes it needs an outside source to enable you to clarify your thoughts on something. Also, in the past, I have been an atheist... Believing in nothing. I have a testimony if you wish to read it. It's long though so if you want, I'll PM it to you. Please do PM it to me ;D
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Post by alexx on Jan 25, 2011 11:27:14 GMT -8
It will never happen so there's no point in speculation on that. What will never happen? Science showing religions how wrong they are? It's been happening for at least 2000 years
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