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Post by Morgan on Jun 29, 2017 15:29:56 GMT -8
Forum URL: insurrectionhprp.proboards.comI'm sorry in advance if this is the wrong place to post this but it's just come to my attention that apparently Photobucket has now joined those who changed their TOS to not allow forums to hotlink. I'm running out of options for what sites to use, and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions -- also wondering from Proboards Staff if this definitely affects us because I heard about it from Jcink people but I figure if it affects them it affects us! Ack!! What to do, what to do!
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Post by Brian on Jun 29, 2017 15:36:04 GMT -8
Hi, Morgan . This change will affect any images hosted on Photobucket, regardless of the platform they've been posted on. As far as your layout is concerned it is possible to upload images directly to the forum in Themes > Theme Manager by going into the Images tab of your theme's settings. Imgur is a good host for image sharing, but they've amended their terms of service as well to forbid using them as a content delivery network. So while you can't use it to host images for your layout (which again, we cover through the Themes section) they should still be viable for posting links to images.
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Come find us again y'all!
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Post by m2marsh on Jun 29, 2017 15:39:25 GMT -8
Forum URL: insurrectionhprp.proboards.comI'm sorry in advance if this is the wrong place to post this but it's just come to my attention that apparently Photobucket has now joined those who changed their TOS to not allow forums to hotlink. I'm running out of options for what sites to use, and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions -- also wondering from Proboards Staff if this definitely affects us because I heard about it from Jcink people but I figure if it affects them it affects us! Ack!! What to do, what to do! When you say hot link, you don't mean when we actually bring it into our own Photobucket library and then post the provided IMG code, right? You're just talking about right clicking and copying the image code?
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Star's Legacy
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Post by Star's Legacy on Jun 29, 2017 15:40:26 GMT -8
Imgur is a good host for image sharing, but they've amended their terms of service as well to forbid using them as a content delivery network. So while you can't use it to host images for your layout (which again, we cover through the Themes section) they should still be viable for posting links to images. To clarify what you are saying here is that from Imgur you can not use images for your forums layout, but you can use it to post and display images in threads, is this correct?
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Post by Morgan on Jun 29, 2017 15:42:08 GMT -8
Okay! So as far as images on the layout, I'm fine. They're all uploaded directly to the forum! I was thinking more along the lines of images that members use on their profiles. So Imgur allows that? And with Photobucket's new TOS, they wouldn't? Just to make sure I'm telling my members the right thing
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Shhh, can't see me.
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April 2004
izaeah
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Post by Joachim on Jun 29, 2017 15:43:40 GMT -8
Forum URL: insurrectionhprp.proboards.comI'm sorry in advance if this is the wrong place to post this but it's just come to my attention that apparently Photobucket has now joined those who changed their TOS to not allow forums to hotlink. I'm running out of options for what sites to use, and was wondering if anyone has any suggestions -- also wondering from Proboards Staff if this definitely affects us because I heard about it from Jcink people but I figure if it affects them it affects us! Ack!! What to do, what to do! When you say hot link, you don't mean when we actually bring it into our own Photobucket library and then post the provided IMG code, right? You're just talking about right clicking and copying the image code? To answer this particular question, Photobucket has changed their ToS so that users with free account can only use their account to host images, not link them on outer sites. If you want to be allowed to take your image URL and use it in your themes, say, or even for images on your forum, you need to have a paying account, their 500 account. You can find more information on that in this link. Admins please feel free to remove the link if it does not belong but I figure it might clear up some information for users.
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Post by Star's Legacy on Jun 29, 2017 15:44:03 GMT -8
When you say hot link, you don't mean when we actually bring it into our own Photobucket library and then post the provided IMG code, right? You're just talking about right clicking and copying the image code? This is what I always thought hotlinking meant, but according to Photobucket this is their definition:
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Post by Brian on Jun 29, 2017 15:49:08 GMT -8
I'm no lawyer, but based on the definition of what a content delivery network is I'd say there's at least still a 50/50 chance that using Imgur to host something like your avatar or mini-profile backgrounds is still a violation of their terms of service. We actually had a thread about their ToS change a while back ( right here). Lots of users who post screenshots here in the Support Board seem to use Postimage lately which does not have this same limitation (and probably should've been my first suggestion).
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Kami
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Post by Kami on Jun 29, 2017 15:50:45 GMT -8
When you say hot link, you don't mean when we actually bring it into our own Photobucket library and then post the provided IMG code, right? You're just talking about right clicking and copying the image code? This is what I always thought hotlinking meant, but according to Photobucket this is their definition: For years, hotlinking has meant "using the link for an image you don't own to display it on a third site" -- the URL itself is irrelevant.
The problem with Photobucket applying it to the content they host is simply that for years they have operated as an image host, meaning that when you link from your account, you aren't "hotlinking" by the conventional definition. While in the strictest, technical sense they haven't changed the definition of hotlinking, the assumption has been for over a decade that the images hosted on your behalf are yours and linking to them is not considered hotlinking as that space has been allocated for you.
I genuinely have no idea. I'd normally suggest tinypic but they are loaded with ads and are a subsidiary of photobucket. I am blessed to be able to afford my own website host to host my content, but other than that I cannot think of any free host that allows you to link use images on forums.
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Star's Legacy
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Post by Star's Legacy on Jun 29, 2017 16:00:40 GMT -8
Per postimage's terms of use: From my understanding this means that they prefer that you only display images if they link back to the original on postimage or that you only link to images and not displaying them? It seems with this that they may go the same way as Photobucket if too many people do not link back to the original image. So does this mean that Postimage may not be the best solution longterm?
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Kami
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Post by Kami on Jun 29, 2017 16:04:30 GMT -8
Per postimage's terms of use: From my understanding this means that they prefer that you only display images if they link back to the original on postimage or that you only link to images and not displaying them? It seems with this that they may go the same way as Photobucket if too many people do not link back to the original image. So does this mean that Postimage may not be the best solution longterm? From my understanding they want you to keep the images wrapped in anchor tags, like
<a href="link back to postimage"><img src="your image"></a>
and same for UBBC. Obviously this will not work for themes or avatars or anything you'd like to link elsewhere like an affiliate banner or your signature image, etc.
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Star's Legacy
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Post by Star's Legacy on Jun 29, 2017 16:14:07 GMT -8
So for posting images in threads this would be optimal as you can comply with their preference by linking back your images. But it is not preferred to be used for forum layouts or affiliate banners and may go the way of Photobucket and outright deny displaying images at all?
Kami, would you mind sharing information and recommendations on obtaining your own website host to host content? I may want/need to go that route if I can't find a nice and free alternative.
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Kami
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Post by Kami on Jun 29, 2017 16:18:39 GMT -8
So for posting images in threads this would be optimal as you can comply with their preference by linking back your images. But it is not preferred to be used for forum layouts or affiliate banners and may go the way of Photobucket and outright deny displaying images at all? Kami, would you mind sharing information and recommendations on obtaining your own website host to host content? I may want/need to go that route if I can't find a nice and free alternative. Yeah, I would say so. There's no way to use it for anything you want to display either linked to another site or need to display without links without breaking their terms, but posts and stuff should be fine.
There are plenty of methods to obtain a website host. The most common way is generally to go through the domain name registrar you use -- namecheap, for instance, offers hosting packages as well as domain services (as does godaddy, and I'm sure many others). There are also dedicated hosting companies, like bigwetfish or hostgator, though you'd still need to buy a domain name.
You may want to monitor your analytics for a while, perhaps install statcounter as well, to find out how much bandwidth your images use to determine which hosting package is right for you, your forum, and your wallet.
I've been using a combination of hostgator and namecheap for several years now and have been very satisfied with their uptime and customer service, but your mileage may vary for your needs (this is, of course, not including any forum images. All my forum images are hosted through PB's upload system -- which is honestly excellent -- with the exception of my affiliate image).
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Post by Brian on Jun 29, 2017 16:21:57 GMT -8
Per postimage's terms of use: From my understanding this means that they prefer that you only display images if they link back to the original on postimage or that you only link to images and not displaying them? It seems with this that they may go the same way as Photobucket if too many people do not link back to the original image. So does this mean that Postimage may not be the best solution longterm? If that part of Postimage's ToS sounds familiar you're currently posting on a service that runs on a policy similar to what they've typed there. That's why we now have the ad blocker message making its rounds and why we cannot stress enough that we take your ad reports very seriously to ensure that even with ads your browsing experience is undisturbed. A free service cannot function solely out of the good will of its owners' hearts. Linking back to the full image on their site is the only way for them to obtain revenue while still remaining free. That's pretty much why Photobucket is doing what they're doing now and why any given image you view on their site's gallery page is plagued with undesirable ad placement. Hotlinking images from their site utilizes their site's bandwidth but does not provide them with any revenue to support the hosting costs that allow you to hotlink those images. The future of their policy will likely be in the hands of user behavior.
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♥ ℒʊ√ ♥
Clouds float into my life no longer to carry rain or usher storm but to add color to my sunset sky.
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luv
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Jun 30, 2017 1:59:19 GMT -8
This is bad news for my forum.
But there is a hosting service where "Direct linking (hotlinking) is allowed, even encouraged, with no restrictions. Use Village.Photos to manage your eBay sales, to post your images on EZ Boards, vBulletin systems or other forums. Embed them or link them into your marketing email blasts, and more."
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