Mafia Game (After Party)

[iCraft]

Just to move it on a vote ryan

[Syko Nachoman]

OK, so that's 4 for Ryan and 2 for Jetta.

Now you can see why I thought the vote-splitting thing was a bad idea

[Dumezil]

Good God just kill me already. I AM MAFIA!!

[Syko Nachoman]

I'll change my vote to Ryan as well. Now just one more will end this eternal day.

[Thesealion]

I am voting for Jetta...i still don't trust Ryan

[Ryan Roos]

Wow if all that flip flopping over here doesn't reveal the mafia sitting around Bagheera I don't know what will.

jetta Lol, even though you are mafia I like you. ;D

[aether]

Bagheera votes
Jetta: Bagheera
Ryan: Bagheera

Jetta votes
Bagheera: Jetta
Mr. Spartan: Jetta
Nightwalker: Jetta

Ryan votes
Crow: Ryan
Dove: Ryan
Thumper: Ryan
Syko Nachoman: Ryan
iCraft: Ryan

Do I have this right?

[Ryan Roos]

No.

I change my vote to Jetta

[bagheera]

Okay, if we've got five, I change mine to Ryan. That makes six.

jetta: Sorry. You're next, if it's any consolation.

[Syko Nachoman]

Dec 20, 2010 11:15:24 GMT -8 bagheera said:

jetta: Sorry. You're next, if it's any consolation.

It's consolation to me ;D

[Dumezil]

Well. I'm going to pull a Robert and vote for myself.

[Ryan Roos]

I'm done for.

I got popular vote against Bagheera .
I played hard all week.
I managed a 5 day stalemate.
I even finally approved of the double-lynch and survived it.
I don't know what else I could have done.
Seemed pretty stacked against me.

Can't wait til the next game.

I would suggest a Scapegoat be added for ties in the next game as well as a rule about posting screenshots and videos. Pretty much cheating if you ask me. If every villager just posts a screenshot on day1 then the mafia will be instantly revealed and the villagers will always win. A video is even more cheating.

I say if you aren't good enough to sway people with words and logic then you shouldn't be allowed to play.

I'm not bitter. I congratulate Bagheera. Well played. I hope you realize this was all just a game to me and I don't take anything personal away from it. I saw that you removed my quote from you sig half way through our debate last week. I hope this game hasn't influenced our relationship on the rest of support. ;D

Edit : This is in no way an admission of being mafia. I am a villager!

[bagheera]

Dec 20, 2010 11:23:52 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

I'm done for.

I got popular vote against Bagheera .
I played hard all week.
I managed a 5 day stalemate.
I even finally approved of the double-lynch and survived it.
I don't know what else I could have done.
Seemed pretty stacked against me.

Can't wait til the next game.

I would suggest a Scapegoat be added for ties in the next game as well as a rule about posting screenshots and videos. Pretty much cheating if you ask me. If every villager just posts a screenshot on day1 then the mafia will be instantly revealed and the villagers will always win. A video is even more cheating.

I say if you aren't good enough to sway people with words and logic then you shouldn't be allowed to play.

I'm not bitter. I congratulate Bagheera. Well played. I hope you realize this was all just a game to me and I don't take anything personal away from it. I saw that you removed my quote from you sig half way through our debate last week. I hope this game hasn't influenced our relationship on the rest of support. ;D

There were no rules about what evidence is allowed, so pretty much anything is allowed unless Aether disapproves, and he didn't. Though I agree that perhaps videos and screenshots should be disallowed next game -- it created more problems than it solved, really.

You played very well... I really have to hand it to you. You were pretty much the perfect opponent. xD I definitely don't take it personally either, though, no worries. That was a coincidence, I tend not to keep anything in my sig for long, haha.

[Syko Nachoman]

Dec 20, 2010 11:23:52 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

I would suggest a Scapegoat be added for ties in the next game as well as a rule about posting screenshots and videos. Pretty much cheating if you ask me. If every villager just posts a screenshot on day1 then the mafia will be instantly revealed and the villagers will always win. A video is even more cheating.

I disagree that it's cheating -- the video was a clever idea, though screen shots can still be faked, as you pointed out. However, I do agree that they shouldn't be allowed in the future (videos, at least) -- whoever gets the detective role in the next game (and any successive games) is pretty much guaranteed to do the exact same thing, which will make the detective unstoppable. Also, it does somewhat remove the manipulation element from the game.

[Ryan Roos]

Dec 20, 2010 11:28:58 GMT -8 Syko Nachoman said:

Dec 20, 2010 11:23:52 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

I would suggest a Scapegoat be added for ties in the next game as well as a rule about posting screenshots and videos. Pretty much cheating if you ask me. If every villager just posts a screenshot on day1 then the mafia will be instantly revealed and the villagers will always win. A video is even more cheating.

I disagree that it's cheating -- the video was a clever idea, though screen shots can still be faked, as you pointed out. However, I do agree that they shouldn't be allowed in the future (videos, at least) -- whoever gets the detective role in the next game (and any successive games) is pretty much guaranteed to do the exact same thing, which will make the detective unstoppable. Also, it does somewhat remove the manipulation element from the game.

I actually proved the video can be faked too. But if you are arguing that it can't be then it IS just auto-win for a detective assuming a doctor and nurse protect that person.

Also it is unfair because everyone can talk here on the forum. That is equal. Not everyone has photoshop or video software. So screenshots are easy, faked screenshots are harder, video are even more ridiculous. None should be allowed because it has nothing to do with game balance.

In the real game everyone is dealt cards. Screenshots are the equivalent of everyone just showing their card on the first day and revealing the mafia for an instant win. That's why it's cheating. In the real game you can't show your card as a rule. So essentially a screenshot breaks that rule.