GT Mafia: Round 2 ((Post-Game))

[aether]

Honestly, we might as well no vote today. My reasoning, BESIDES ME BEING IN THE MAFIA, is that no one has been proven conclusively to be in the mafia, therefore the statistical odds of us hitting on of our own is 79% (15/19). I mean, yes, we'll definitely lose a villager over the night, but it's better than probably losing 2 villagers over the course of the day and night.

Plus, it'll give our detective another day to investigate someone and hopefully start a coalition of those he/she can trust.

[Matej]

Aether's reasoning might actually make sense.
Rather than losing a villager, which is a gigantic probability at this point, just to not lose anyone.

The detective should choose one of the 3 most likely suspects and it'll be quickly seen what's true. If it is, well, the vote the next day will be easy.

[Ryan Roos]

Aether does make a good point. But imagine of we killed a mafia member. Although then I think about what if we kill the detective or doctor.

Hmm.

Dec 29, 2010 10:47:49 GMT -8 Thesealion said:

Ryan one of the admins is Mafia. I am almost sure of it. You making this pact with Ricky makes it hard for everyone since we think that one of you two is Mafia. Do you agree that one of the admins is mafia? Who do you think it is?

If one of the admins is mafia I think it might be Ricky. But I agreed to make a truce with him for this first day as a sign of villager trust. Also Alex is on vacation so I have no real input on him.

My leap of faith is really Patrick because he is telling me things I want to hear. If I'm wrong about him being a villager then I'm screwed no matter what I do. But if I don't try to trust someone then I'm not going to get anywhere.

For now still Crow, but I will change to a no-lynch today only if that becomes the popular vote.

[Dove]

Wow it's only day two and there's nine pages of war? This is insanity. If ryans involved then it's bound to be long. I will vote ryan. I think...

[Ryan Roos]

Dec 29, 2010 11:33:45 GMT -8 Dove said:

Wow it's only day two and there's nine pages of war? This is insanity. If ryans involved then it's bound to be long. I will vote aether. I think...

lol, Day 1 still

Most of this isn't me... yet.

Aether is a very random vote but to each his (her) own.

[Pats Freak 101]

When's the time cut off for a majority vote anyhow?

[aether]

So, I don't know if I have to actively do this, but I'm voting for a no lynch today.

[Pats Freak 101]

I think Ryan is playing poker at any rate... I'm going to call his bluff.

Ryan

[Phaelyn]

...know what, going with aether, for the moment. he makes the most sense right now.

no lynch!

[bagheera]

Lots of interesting reasoning here. As of right now, you still have over 18 hours to decide if you're one of the six people who haven't yet voted, or if you're not sure what to do.

The current tally:

Shiraz: TheLostStocking
woop: Shiraz
Phaelyn: Ricky

Patrick Clinger: Crow
Ryan: Crow
Ricky: Crow

Pats Freak 101: Ryan
Dove: Ryan
Crow: Ryan
Alex Zechiel: Ryan
**hp: Ryan
Syko: Ryan

Aether: No lynch
Phaelyn: No lynch

[Shiraz]

I'm changing my vote to no lynch.

[Ryan Roos]

lol, Dove changes her vote to me after I post trying to be friendly.

pat's Freak - I'm always playing poker but it doesn't mean I'm not playing for the villagers. Please explain how wanting to form the Neighborhood Watch is logical for a mafia member when it would force mafia to vote against themselves or be revealed.

Madness I say! Madness!

[Phaelyn]

Guys, I'm just gonna post my reasoning once more as to why I think Ryan's innocent. So, if you're voting for him, or on the fence, it'd be cool if you'd read this

But yeah. First, he's a lot more laid-back in this round. Remember how he vehemently opposed anyone who voted for him in the last thread? That was because killing him would have basically exposed the entire mafia (and it did, actually). Faced with a near-majority vote against him right now, he's still acting cool. Yes, the villagers lose out with any death, but not so much as the Mafia would.

I also think his acceptance seems to prove he's not the doctor or detective. The doctor would still be trying hard to keep afloat to save the detective, and the detective would want to stay alive for obvious reasons.

Truth be told, that's really my only reasoning...another good thing is that he, if you remember, was awesome at the debating. He can be a useful asset for us later on to help rally the villagers to one target, rather than all over the place.

[Pats Freak 101]

Dec 29, 2010 12:42:40 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

lol, Dove changes her vote to me after I post trying to be friendly.

pat's Freak - I'm always playing poker but it doesn't mean I'm not playing for the villagers. Please explain how wanting to form the Neighborhood Watch is logical for a mafia member when it would force mafia to vote against themselves or be revealed.

Madness I say! Madness!

Ever since being nominated you've been spewing like nuts in your defense and that looks continually more suspicious. As Aether pointed out the mafia can benefit for the Neighborhood Watch. They might run the risk of getting clipped, but if they joined it they would look like villagers, the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. The neighborhood watch in my opinion is of little benefit due to that hole in the idea.

This challenge reinforces my vote.

[Ryan Roos]

Dec 29, 2010 12:48:59 GMT -8 Pats Freak 101 said:

Dec 29, 2010 12:42:40 GMT -8 Ryan Roos said:

lol, Dove changes her vote to me after I post trying to be friendly.

pat's Freak - I'm always playing poker but it doesn't mean I'm not playing for the villagers. Please explain how wanting to form the Neighborhood Watch is logical for a mafia member when it would force mafia to vote against themselves or be revealed.

Madness I say! Madness!

Ever since being nominated you've been spewing like nuts in your defense and that looks continually more suspicious. As Aether pointed out the mafia can benefit for the Neighborhood Watch. They might run the risk of getting clipped, but if they joined it they would look like villagers, the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. The neighborhood watch in my opinion is of little benefit due to that hole in the idea.

This challenge reinforces my vote.

You didn't read my reply to him then. I explained if mafia vote with the watch there is no benefit or loss either way. But it will force mafia to occasionally either vote themselves out or be revealed. How does forcing the mafia's hand during a lynching hurt villagers at all. It doesn't in any way.

Mafia are the most likely to reject joining.
Mafia are the ones forced to vote against their own or be revealed.

Currently the mafia know all the villagers, the villagers know none of the mafia. This was an attempt to resolve that, or at least curb it.

If you think I can't be trusted and you want to lose the game as villagers then vote for me today. I'm soooo threatening in my willingness to change my vote to anything anyone wants or the popular vote at the end of the day. And with my request that the detective detect me tonight so that I can have at least one strong ally I must be mafia. OOOooooOOOooo. There is no more logic in killing me then their is in killing any random villager. Except I might actually have the skills to weed out mafia in the future. But oh well.