GT Mafia: Round 2 ((Post-Game))

[Ace Trainer Dom]

Okay, disaster averted ;D. Now what?

I'd like to reinforce my suspects from when Aether was killed, let me go find my previous posts....

My previous post says it all, these are my suspects:

Jan 1, 2011 16:16:24 GMT -8 Ace Trainer Dom said:

Dec 30, 2010 17:02:13 GMT -8 aether said:

I have to agree with the abuse of staff power thing. I considered it for a bit last game, but didn't think that the time online had much to do with the game. I think at the very least, login times should be inadmissible as evidence against someone. And the staff should refrain from using it at all and assume that everyone is invisible.

Furthermore, I think that neither Syko nor Ryan are mafia. That's not to say that they're both not acting suspiciously, though. I think we could focus our energy elsewhere. For instance, the other 17 players. I'd like to call to question anyone who didn't post yesterday or posted very little. They've had a whole day to read the thread, I'd like to know their thoughts.

Dec 30, 2010 19:33:18 GMT -8 aether said:

I have a few thoughts.

First, I think we should start getting rid of those who aren't actively participating (or as much so) in the game. Not only do they have just as good a chance of being mafia as anyone, but also they aren't contributing to the search for mafia in any way. I'm looking at blizz, jetta, **hp, and zar (at least constructively).

Second, as a sign of good faith, I'd like to be investigated in the night.

Third, I would like to re-iterate that my suspects for mafia are Lost and patsfreak.

Fourth, I don't think that either Syko or Ryan are in the mafia. I think Ryan's just bad at playing innocent, and Syko is acting defensively because people are trying to lynch him.

By now I think enough time has passed for the mafia to have a motive for their killings, so I have looked at all of Æther's posts for information that we may have forgotten, and these two seemed to be most significant. Æther was not suspicious of Syko or Ryan, and Syko turned out to be a villager when we lynched him, therefore I am hesitant to believe that Ryan is mafia at this time. I'm still keeping an eye on him though to see if there is any change in behavior over the rest of the game.

Æther's two top prospects are Lost and patsfreak. I would like to see some posts for or against them and get a discussion going. Lost was acting suspiciously on day one, he seemed to be trying too hard, and he really seems to be trying to cover something up. patsfreak simply doesn't provide many meaningful posts, much like Alex Zechiel (You could be next on my suspect list btw, you are often just going with the crowd, not often stating much of an opinion yourself).

Of course, the 4 mentioned in the above quote may also have wanted to kill Æther before he got more dirt on them, blizz, jetta, **hp, and zar, but there's not much on these guys so I'm not including them in my list right now.

So here are the people who could potentially want Æther dead: Lost and Patsfreak. blizz, jetta, **hp, and zar are potential afterthoughts.

[Matej]

I think that was way too obvious that's gonna happen.

[VS Admin]

Last night, you know there was a brutal attack attempted on one of our fellow villagers. The doctor saved this individual. This was all a clever ruse that we worked up to distract and confuse the mafia.

At this point in the game, I'm sure other villagers know that there are a group of us working together who are confirmed villagers. This is a small group, but we found out Ricky the other night.

The attack was on Ryan, and he's not even the detective!. I worked with Ryan to setup a scenario where he would be targeted by the mafia. Our doctor was keeping a close eye and noticed this, saving his life (thanks, Doc!). So while he did openly lie about his position, he did it in an effort to waste one of the mafia's kills. It was a success.

In fact, I am the detective. I am saying this because one of our fellow villagers is a top suspect for many people based on previous days; I need to ensure they are not killed by the villagers. I also suspect I am already high on the list of potential targets, so this information needs to get out ASAP. Last night we added another confirmed villager to our ranks - Lost.

I can tell you that the following individuals are confirmed villagers:

-Ryan
-Zar
-Lost
-Myself (obviously)

[Ace Trainer Dom]

Riiiight....I think the only person I trust anymore is bagheera, and that's not saying much seeing as she's not playing Everything could be a deception. I'd like to see a defense post in Aether's other suspect in that case, patsfreak. You haven't posted in a while, how about a defense post?

[Dumezil]

I'm pretty sure that at least one mafia member is trying to feed us names. I think it would be more likely to suspect people who have not come up as negative as often such as Dom, Shiraz, Patrick Clinger, Pats Freak 101, and Alex. Although some of them do claim to be something else. Ryan and Patrick Clinger could two of the three remaining Mafia, working together to throw the rest of us off. Then again, if they were, wouldn't the real detective be speaking up? I suspect that two of the mafia are speaking up and being fairly active in the thread while one lies low. Give or take a speak up and lie low.

However, I may be giving the mafia members too much credit.

[Ace Trainer Dom]

Jan 2, 2011 22:16:57 GMT -8 Dumezil said:

I'm pretty sure that at least one mafia member is trying to feed us names. I think it would be more likely to suspect people who have not come up as negative as often such as Dom, Shiraz, Patrick Clinger, Pats Freak 101, and Alex. Although some of them do claim to be something else. Ryan and Patrick Clinger could two of the three remaining Mafia, working together to throw the rest of us off. Then again, if they were, wouldn't the real detective be speaking up? I suspect that two of the mafia are speaking up and being fairly active in the thread while one lies low. Give or take a speak up and lie low.

However, I may be giving the mafia members too much credit.

I agree, we should be looking at everybody regardless of their behaviour. Even me

At the risk of sounding like mafia [I'm not, you have my word (As if my word means anything about myself )], I think it would be kinda fishy if the three admins in the game were mafia, and also very improbable. Not saying that it's impossible, but I'd be very surprised if all three were.

Oh, did you want me to defend myself? I've contacted both Ryan and Patrick already asking them to investigate me, and I'll state it publicly in this thread too, I have nothing to hide, I'm a villager. I'll admit it, I have no idea where I'm going with most of my accusations, but that is just the nature of the game. I do however think that when Aether was killed there was a motive behind it, either one of aether's suspects was mafia or the mafia believed aether to be the detective, I don't know. But in the end I vote with the best interests of the village in mind, and I hate lynching innocent people almost as much as I loathe the mafia for killing all of the innocent villagers. Also, I've mentioned all of those names (I think? I didn't check but I'm pretty sure) and voiced my suspicions before. I may post a lot, and I may go from one suspect to the next, but it's all because I am concerned and scared for the well-being of the village. Having said that, I'll let you all judge me.

Also, being part of the neighborhood watch, that also means that I will have to vote for myself if you all end up against me, I won't back out of that either, even if I end up casting myself as the final vote to lynch me

(And just a question, out of context of the game and not in character, but it seems that the admins are the go-to target for being mafia in both games. Why? Is it our hatred for authoritative figures in games such as these?)

[**hp]

Jan 2, 2011 22:16:57 GMT -8 Dumezil said:

I'm pretty sure that at least one mafia member is trying to feed us names. I think it would be more likely to suspect people who have not come up as negative as often such as Dom, Shiraz, Patrick Clinger, Pats Freak 101, and Alex. Although some of them do claim to be something else. Ryan and Patrick Clinger could two of the three remaining Mafia, working together to throw the rest of us off. Then again, if they were, wouldn't the real detective be speaking up? I suspect that two of the mafia are speaking up and being fairly active in the thread while one lies low. Give or take a speak up and lie low.

However, I may be giving the mafia members too much credit.

I'd agree. I think at this point Ryan and Patrick are safe...I'm interested in more information on Dom, personally, but seeing as my internet connection is limited and will be limited till Tuesday, my input will also be limited.

[Phaelyn]

Hmm....

For now, I think I'm trusting Ryan and Patrick. If one of them was not the real detective, wouldn't they be speaking up? If I were the detective, I certainly wouldn't stand for it if a mafia impersonating my position.

I'm not sure who I'm suspicious of, at the moment. Everyone's sort of suspicious I think hp and woop have been acting the oddest, personally -- though it could be due to internet connection on either part, possibly.

[Former Member]

I have been out today, so this is why my reply is late.

dom

If you want me to justify myself to you, then you wont get anything. Surely the clues directing me to being a Villager are quite high. A) I worked with Nightwalker, and was very opinionated in the first day because I wanted both of us to live. My plan failed and Nightwalker was executed by the Mafia. B) The Detective has confirmed me to be a Villager, i.e. Patrick Clinger and is so far sticking his neck out to save the loss of Villagers. His plan was genius, no?

There are more clues but I'll let you figure those out for yourself.

I'm currently suspicious of woop for being rather inactive, and not posting as much as everybody else. It's just a suspicion mind you. But **hp is looking more and more suspicious, as Nightwalker suspected him and then was killed and now he has been very inactive. Not posting much, etc.

[Phaelyn]

-sigh- I think I finally need to take a leap here and vote for someone. I'm guessing people aren't on due to school (I shouldn't be either, for that matter) but I want to move things along a bit.

I'm voting for **hp. He hasn't been posting much, and even when he has supported people, I don't think I've seen him vote a single time yet. Something just seems off about him.

[Ace Trainer Dom]

Jan 3, 2011 7:02:05 GMT -8 @lostdawn said:

I have been out today, so this is why my reply is late.

dom

If you want me to justify myself to you, then you wont get anything.

Meh I don't need that. Patrick's thread is good enough for me. I asked about that before he posted it. I just found your behaviour a bit odd on the first day.

Once again I'm not going to vote just yet. I hate throwing votes out early.

[Former Member]

I'm close to voting for Shiraz. She's too darn suspicious, but I guess I'll go with my head not my heart. My vote goes to **hp

EDIT:

Alright I'll display my reasoning. So far, **hp has been inactive for the majority of the game. He seems too quiet, like Shiraz. But he's been consistently quiet, which disturbs me a lot. If we remove him, as he seems like the "quiet" Mafia member, then it'll remove the main artillery. Other things such as him not voting to no lynch with the rest of us, even though the majority knew it was for the best. Then he seemed to go quiet, and post the odd message saying a name or two. But it had no reasoning. Who wouldn't display their main reasoning for lynching, eh? The Mafia already have the outlines of the player(s) they need removed, so they need not display their reasons as they don't need to examine for evidence. **hp seems to be the type of person that is either Mafia, or a very useless Villager who isn't swayed by convincing motives.

Done. Feel free to argue **hp.

[Ryan Roos]

Makes sense.

I vote **HP

[VS Admin]

I'm with Ryan on this. **hp

[Ace Trainer Dom]

I guess if that's the consensus here I'll also vote **hp. Lost makes a compelling argument. Here's hoping the mafia don't take 24 hours again tonight

EDIT: what if the reason the mafia took 24 hours is because they needed to wait for **hp to vote? We could be on to something here.