Why proboards... Why...?

[kagamination]

Jan 12, 2013 14:31:05 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

But, like I said - don't want to use the new features? Don't use them. They are optional. You still have H&F as an option.

H&F that support EVERYTHING that the current PB layout supports? To the tee? Because if not - that's the very reason we're complaining. Or at least, the very reason I am.

[Lyssa]

We have the admins' attentions. But honestly so far every update that has happened involving v5 has made it harder for me and my members. So far I have had things stolen from me, and couldn't get anything done about it like I could in the past because you now have to have legal proof that it is your's for a site that is free; I have had people attack me through IM from fellow sites on PB; I have been targeted by someone many times before and nothing will be done about them because they keep using proxies and fake names; I have even had my name ran into the mud by more then a few people because of a few minor mistakes I have made that they made into a bigger deal; and things are just getting messier. If its not optional then that will be horrible, because I see nothing wrong with v4 and many others are the same.

As for the one who said many things will be lost by moving to another host, you are wrong on that. All it takes is recreating the boards, which we will already have to do because any codes we have in the actual boards will not work; repost any staff posts onto the new site; email the members where the new site is now located at, which has actually been done before many times and has worked quite well; and make sure the members have had time to save their previous posts in which they can repost them on the new site within minutes. Its not that complicated. It will take time to do but it works and I have seen many people doing it. one friend I know who has a site has already made a JCINK version of her proboards site in case its not optional.

Also the staff of proboards can always find more staff members, this is proboards for god's sake, so many love it how it is and would willingly help the v4 members so the others can focus on v5. Its really not that complicated. And there are so many talented members who are not staff yet they know as much about proboards as the staff!

Also Mabel I am using the current version of Firefox, but I have been stuck with an older brand of IE before and refused to upgrade once I saw anything that I didn't like. That was back before I started RPing though.

And Patrick, I have tried v5, there is no way you can not not use anything. And the headers/footers in v5 will not allow sideboards, at least not correctly. it looks sloppy and, like another member has said, clunky. I even looked to see if there was a way to do sidebars like I had previously had them and couldn't find anything to help me.

[VS Admin]

Jan 12, 2013 14:44:29 GMT -8 kagamination said:

Jan 12, 2013 14:31:05 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

But, like I said - don't want to use the new features? Don't use them. They are optional. You still have H&F as an option.

H&F that support EVERYTHING that the current PB layout supports? To the tee? Because if not - that's the very reason we're complaining. Or at least, the very reason I am.

Any code that was written for v4 can be re-written for v5. All you need to do is ask for help from one of the coders on the code board.

Our Support Team is also available to help you with anything you need on your new v5 forum. We're here to make sure that you have all the features you want. Let us know what you need help with on the Support Board and we will do our best to get you squared away.

[Yori]

Well then Patrick can you help me convert my entire layout from my current forum to the new v5? Because I honestly can't. I do not understand proboards v5... At all... I've been messing around with it for a couple of days now and I don't understand it and want to punch it till it breaks.... Needless to say it's extremely frustrating.

[kagamination]

Jan 12, 2013 14:57:39 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Any code that was written for v4 can be re-written for v5. All you need to do is ask for help from one of the coders on the code board.

Our Support Team is also available to help you with anything you need on your new v5 forum. We're here to make sure that you have all the features you want. Let us know what you need help with on the Support Board and we will do our best to get you squared away.

I'm mostly concerned about the layout coding. I'm not very coding savvy when it comes, but the biggest thing is that on v5 - can we make out forums identical to that of v4's layout? Layout mostly is what's bothering me. The create post page is VERY different, and I find myself really preferring the v4 one over it for some odd reason. Also, style tags and enhanced table tags - will they be available and work on v5? 

[VS Admin]

Hi all,

We definitely understand your concerns, and want to make sure we can ensure everyone is happy.

We're going to provide you an option to opt-out of v5, for at least until the end of 2013. This ensures that any and all codes that need to be updated for you will be, and our theme and plugin databases will be populated with everything you can need to make your transition as simple as possible. If we see the need, we will consider supporting v4 past the end of 2013 -- we'll address that at the end of the year.

Patrick

[Brian]

Jan 12, 2013 15:09:22 GMT -8 kagamination said:

Jan 12, 2013 14:57:39 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Any code that was written for v4 can be re-written for v5. All you need to do is ask for help from one of the coders on the code board.

Our Support Team is also available to help you with anything you need on your new v5 forum. We're here to make sure that you have all the features you want. Let us know what you need help with on the Support Board and we will do our best to get you squared away.

I'm mostly concerned about the layout coding. I'm not very coding savvy when it comes, but the biggest thing is that on v5 - can we make out forums identical to that of v4's layout? Layout mostly is what's bothering me. The create post page is VERY different, and I find myself really preferring the v4 one over it for some odd reason. Also, style tags and enhanced table tags - will they be available and work on v5? 

Yes. You can make an entire layout similar, if not identical to V4's layout in appearance, as I've evidenced here by recreating the default PBV4 layout's index page.

support.proboards.com/post/5006128/thread

Style tags are built into V5. Bonus points there. Add style="insert css here" to any of your BBCode and you can do a ton of crazy stuff.

If an existing code isn't present in our plugin database, request it and I'm sure someone will attempt to recreate it.

[Yori]

Jan 12, 2013 15:07:46 GMT -8 Mands said:

Yori I didn't like your tone with the whole "are you going to do it for me" I was just trying to be nice about it. I can't help if you are finding it daunting. But I did too, play about with it, ask for help, that's what I did. I didn't get the V5 forum to look like my V4 without asking a truckload of questions.  If there's a code you love on V4 that won't be accepted on V5, ask for a plug in to be made. I am waiting on answers for 2 plug ins at the moment. I was stressing over the changes, but I realised I was being stupid and now I am enjoying it. I think you guys need to start doing the same thing. Just stop stressing.

All you've done is said how easy PB V5 is. It's like you found it easy so everyone else should. Sorry but not everyone finds it as easy as you do. Like I said I've been messing with it for two days now and I still don't know a damn thing or understand anything. So you may find it easy but I and many others don't and not stressing just sitting around waiting for a huge change that's going to mess our forums up isn't the way to go about this at all. We're trying to get answers. Unless you're actually going to help us out here, let the admins deal with it. 

[Yori]

Jan 12, 2013 15:17:04 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Hi all,

We definitely understand your concerns, and want to make sure we can ensure everyone is happy.

We're going to provide you an option to opt-out of v5, for at least until the end of 2013. This ensures that any and all codes that need to be updated for you will be, and our theme and plugin databases will be populated with everything you can need to make your transition as simple as possible. If we see the need, we will consider supporting v4 past the end of 2013 -- we'll address that at the end of the year.

Patrick

 I love you. Thank you Patrick. That'll give us enough time to actually figure everything out and not freak out.

[Lyssa]

Mands sorry but no. You haven't been helpful at all and I am not trying to be rude. I don't think Yori said you said it was easy. The way you are talking though implies that its now a piece of cake for you though. The rest of us aren't so lucky. And also I thought you resigned from this conversation earlier when you deleted your messages? You may have had to get a lot of help but not everyone likes asking, and not everyone can learn that way. Some of us have to actually mess with things alone without any help to get it. And its still just not working for us. We are all different, so we can not all be compared.

And Patrick, thank you. I agree with Yori. Having that much time may be more helpful to those of us who are having problems adjusting or figuring things out. Hopefully some of my friends, who have already switched or tested, will be some help and i will ask them. and if they can't help me on something there is always the support board here. Which I have used before and has been pretty helpful on several things. Thanks Patrick.

[AshFR]

Jan 12, 2013 14:38:43 GMT -8 Mabel Pines said:

Jan 12, 2013 14:20:22 GMT -8 Lyssa said:

Just like if Internet Explorer or Firefox upgrades, none of us have to upgrade it. We can ignore the upgrade and stay on IE5 or IE7 instead of going to the next level.

Wow, wait huh?

This may be very confusing, but aren't you contradicting your own self by comparing IE5 to V.4.5 since IE5 is outdated and created in 1999?(Which, if I may point out one year before ProBoards was created.)

Edit : Ah you're point was that you stayed on IE5 so why can't you stay on...V.4.5

[VS Admin]

Everyone, can we please stop the bickering in this thread.

[Taiya]

Jan 12, 2013 15:17:04 GMT -8 VS Admin said:

Hi all,

We definitely understand your concerns, and want to make sure we can ensure everyone is happy.

We're going to provide you an option to opt-out of v5, for at least until the end of 2013. This ensures that any and all codes that need to be updated for you will be, and our theme and plugin databases will be populated with everything you can need to make your transition as simple as possible. If we see the need, we will consider supporting v4 past the end of 2013 -- we'll address that at the end of the year.

Patrick

Thank you so much Patrick, for hearing us out :3 <3

[Brian]

Jan 12, 2013 14:27:10 GMT -8 Yori said:

For instance. How do I get all of that on to the new V5? You gonna do it for me?

Sure!

venompbtest12.freemessageboards.com

[Ty]

When I first glanced at v5 I thought it was going to be harder as well. I was a bit upset because at first the layout reminded me of Invision and I was afraid that I was going to have to relearn how to modify the skin and appearance of my board as well...but as I started to just play around with it a bit and understand how it worked then I realized just how much easier it is. There are still some questions I have, but once you actually start to open your eyes to it and understand how it is all put together then the possibilities are nearly endless.

In v5 we are going to see codes that far pass the capabilities that v4 had. It's going to be a lot more convenient, just give it a little time and try not to freak out also don't focus on "hate it hate it hate it". I use to dread it and now I'm looking forward to it. Now I can go in and edit the codes as I see fit rather than copying and pasting someone's code and praying that it works and does not contradict or mess up another code. Like it has been said...a lot of the popular codes for v4 have already been built into v5 and what hasn't been built in has already been made into plugins or are in the making...not to mention even more plugins are being made that go above and beyond the codes of v4.

I love using the headers and footers too, in fact on v5 I will still be using them for the side tables simply because I don't like the plugin for side tables. So you see you do have an option and if you are confused or need help then that's what Proboards Support is for. This is a friendly community and there are many staff and just regular members ready to lend a helping hand. Sure it may take a little bit of time adjusting but that's no reason to get upset with change or update to Proboards software.

Since you can opt out to change until the end of 2013 though I guess that will help a lot with all of your problems...

also... *applauds Brian*