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Post by Feather Crystal on Apr 7, 2016 7:03:26 GMT -8
The rights of the individual should take precedence over the rights of the group, and the possibility of content deletion serves as a deterrent to malicious actions by the Admin's on a member that they just don't like.
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Brian
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Post by Brian on Apr 7, 2016 9:51:28 GMT -8
Possibly. I'd need to check with our system admins to see if we can get a hold of the query that went through to determine if we can find all of the content ourselves or if we need to dig deeper and manually find out which threads authored by the user were deleted. Hi! As Gravy Train has been short on time, I wanted to check back in with you to see if there has been any progress made looking into whether or not the posts of our other users would be able to be recovered? Thanks so much for looking into this for us. It is greatly appreciated! After going over the information pertaining to the deletion I think we have everything we need to begin searching through our logs to return those threads. I can't currently provide an estimate on when this will be finished, but we'll keep in touch.
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Post by Matt on Apr 7, 2016 10:08:03 GMT -8
The rights of the individual should take precedence over the rights of the group, and the possibility of content deletion serves as a deterrent to malicious actions by the Admin's on a member that they just don't like. sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. and I don't mean to intrude on this thread, but I think the new policy is a lot better than the old one, the new policy has balance as to where the old policy didn't take admins into consideration, It's not fair to an admin either to have posts taken off their forum every time they ban a member; I think PB new policy is much more fair
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Feather Crystal
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Post by Feather Crystal on Apr 7, 2016 10:09:28 GMT -8
Yes, I've read that and I think you are making a big mistake! In effect you are taking the word of the Admin of the site over the banned member. It's an unequal decision that favors one over the other and doesn't take into consideration that the Admin could be the problem! How many members does it take to want to leave a forum to demonstrate where the real problem lies?
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Kami
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Post by Kami on Apr 7, 2016 10:10:17 GMT -8
The rights of the individual should take precedence over the rights of the group, and the possibility of content deletion serves as a deterrent to malicious actions by the Admin's on a member that they just don't like. sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. and I don't mean to intrude on this thread, but I think the new policy is a lot better than the old one, the new policy has balance as to where the old policy didn't take admins into consideration, It's not fair to an admin either to have posts taken off their forum every time they ban a member; I think PB new policy is much more fair To add to this, if you can in good faith submit a DMCA for your intellectual property to ProBoards, they will still remove the content you request. The new policy on deletions includes, in addition to personally identifiable content, anything that breaks ToS or content they'd have to remove to comply with other laws (such as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act).
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Post by Feather Crystal on Apr 7, 2016 10:15:28 GMT -8
The rights of the individual should take precedence over the rights of the group, and the possibility of content deletion serves as a deterrent to malicious actions by the Admin's on a member that they just don't like. sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. and I don't mean to intrude on this thread, but I think the new policy is a lot better than the old one, the new policy has balance as to where the old policy didn't take admins into consideration, It's not fair to an admin either to have posts taken off their forum every time they ban a member; I think PB new policy is much more fair You don't know the people running Last Hearth like I do. Three of their original Admins left because of Mojo/Gravy Train, and another Admin that hasn't joined in here yet. The new policy doesn't take into account malicious behavior of Admins! What if the Admins are the problem? These people have falsely accused me of plagiarism, and even after the person who I was said to have plagiarized weighed in and attested that I didn't plagiarize him, they continue to spread this blatant lie! It's frustrating that proboards is removing a policy that protects everyone.
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Post by Brian on Apr 7, 2016 10:18:55 GMT -8
To further clarify for anyone reading this thread we're restoring the threads created by the person who requested the deletion (so posts by other users that were accidentally deleted as a result of the threads' deletion are returned), but not the posts authored by that particular user. Those are gone for good as their deletion was performed while the old policy was in effect.
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Post by Brian on Apr 7, 2016 10:23:47 GMT -8
Feather Crystal, we'll still protect your right to keep your personal information private but public conversations that don't reveal your personal information don't fall under that criteria. I'm not sure how deleting the entirety of your post history would immediately dissipate any rumors about plagiarism.
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blitzen
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Post by blitzen on Apr 7, 2016 10:26:43 GMT -8
sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. and I don't mean to intrude on this thread, but I think the new policy is a lot better than the old one, the new policy has balance as to where the old policy didn't take admins into consideration, It's not fair to an admin either to have posts taken off their forum every time they ban a member; I think PB new policy is much more fair You don't know the people running Last Hearth like I do. Three of their original Admins left because of Mojo/Gravy Train, and another Admin that hasn't joined in here yet. The new policy doesn't take into account malicious behavior of Admins! What if the Admins are the problem? These people have falsely accused me of plagiarism, and even after the person who I was said to have plagiarized weighed in and attested that I didn't plagiarize him, they continue to spread this blatant lie! It's frustrating that proboards is removing a policy that protects everyone. You weren't mentioned by name in the OP. By posting you're making yourself out as the person who requested deletions. I'm well aware malicious admins exist; I've put up with quite a few, but in this case, you're causing yourself problems. Your posts were deleted as per request before the policy change so why should it matter? Nobody here (unless they were personally involved) knew who the 'members' were that allegedly caused problems. When a forum problem occurs wherein the admin bans you or you leave because of admins not playing ball it's best just to walk away from the forum all together. I'm all for telling both sides but when you're not even mentioned by name I don't see the point.
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Post by Barkley on Apr 7, 2016 10:58:30 GMT -8
sorry, but I will have to disagree with you. and I don't mean to intrude on this thread, but I think the new policy is a lot better than the old one, the new policy has balance as to where the old policy didn't take admins into consideration, It's not fair to an admin either to have posts taken off their forum every time they ban a member; I think PB new policy is much more fair You don't know the people running Last Hearth like I do. Three of their original Admins left because of Mojo/Gravy Train, and another Admin that hasn't joined in here yet. The new policy doesn't take into account malicious behavior of Admins! What if the Admins are the problem? These people have falsely accused me of plagiarism, and even after the person who I was said to have plagiarized weighed in and attested that I didn't plagiarize him, they continue to spread this blatant lie! It's frustrating that proboards is removing a policy that protects everyone. The decision has been made and it still protects the interests of 'everyone'. You don't need to remove ' every' post to protect a member. You are only concerned with your own interests, and seemingly not interested in anybody else's, regardless of forum, where as the new ruling considers 'all' parties. Whatever problem you had with the admin in question, it certainly wasn't in every post you made.
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Feather Crystal
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March 2016
melisandra
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Post by Feather Crystal on Apr 7, 2016 11:01:31 GMT -8
Feather Crystal , we'll still protect your right to keep your personal information private but public conversations that don't reveal your personal information don't fall under that criteria. I'm not sure how deleting the entirety of your post history would immediately dissipate any rumors about plagiarism. The Admin on Last Hearth wants my thread on the Inversion Project restored so they can claim my essay. I'm the person that requested that my posts be deleted, because LH is now trying to claim my work and direct traffic using my content. When I joined LH your previous policy was in place. Had I truly understood what this new policy entails, I would have never joined the site in the first place.
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Post by Matt on Apr 7, 2016 11:02:35 GMT -8
Yes, I've read that and I think you are making a big mistake! In effect you are taking the word of the Admin of the site over the banned member. It's an unequal decision that favors one over the other and doesn't take into consideration that the Admin could be the problem! How many members does it take to want to leave a forum to demonstrate where the real problem lies? It's only fair that the admin is taken into consideration and it's not 100% the users choice, when you submit something you can't just expect it to be able to be taken off at your request, that's not the way the internet works. The new policy protects everyone and I think the new policy is fair
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Post by Feather Crystal on Apr 7, 2016 11:04:54 GMT -8
You don't know the people running Last Hearth like I do. Three of their original Admins left because of Mojo/Gravy Train, and another Admin that hasn't joined in here yet. The new policy doesn't take into account malicious behavior of Admins! What if the Admins are the problem? These people have falsely accused me of plagiarism, and even after the person who I was said to have plagiarized weighed in and attested that I didn't plagiarize him, they continue to spread this blatant lie! It's frustrating that proboards is removing a policy that protects everyone. The decision has been made and it still protects the interests of 'everyone'. You don't need to remove ' every' post to protect a member. You are only concerned with your own interests, and seemingly not interested in anybody else's, regardless of forum, where as the new ruling considers 'all' parties. Whatever problem you had with the admin in question, it certainly wasn't in every post you made. You have a different type of forum than what Last Hearth is. Yours has to do with news and sports, right? LH is about writing essays about theories. It's intellectual property, and I've got a situation where the Admin is trying to keep essays that I wrote and use them to direct traffic to their site. Meanwhile, since I am banned, I would not be able to comment or clarify meaning or support my argument as new comments are posted.
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Post by Brian on Apr 7, 2016 11:07:46 GMT -8
Feather Crystal , we'll still protect your right to keep your personal information private but public conversations that don't reveal your personal information don't fall under that criteria. I'm not sure how deleting the entirety of your post history would immediately dissipate any rumors about plagiarism. The Admin on Last Hearth wants my thread on the Inversion Project restored so they can claim my essay. I'm the person that requested that my posts be deleted, because LH is now trying to claim my work and direct traffic using my content. When I joined LH your previous policy was in place. Had I truly understood what this new policy entails, I would have never joined the site in the first place. Kami covered removal of intellectual property pretty well already. If you own the rights to that content and can provide evidence of that copyright you can submit a DMCA takedown notice on our DMCA page. Otherwise, there's not much that can be done in regards to that content as your right to access and remove it is otherwise dictated by the forum itself. The previous policy was more of an unlisted courtesy than a mandatory action.
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Post by Matt on Apr 7, 2016 11:11:07 GMT -8
I think the new policy is definitely fair, it's not fair that a user could just remove their posts at their will and destroy a forum, the new way protects both sides of the issue
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