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Post by Kami on Apr 6, 2016 13:43:37 GMT -8
That is really not a lot, relatively speaking. But I think I've pretty much iterated, reiterated, and re-reiterated the main points of this subject, so best of luck.
ok thanks for the advice. I dont think i have 3-4 years to wait but we'll see hey. I don't know what to tell you, buddy. You don't want to pay, but you don't want to wait, so honestly you may be out of luck.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Apr 6, 2016 13:53:12 GMT -8
@joecool111 , as posted, the more places your forum links appear, the better. And I've noticed that you keep them private here on support, yet you have so many threads, that if they were public you'd certainly be getting more visibility than you do now.
I'm sure you have a reason for keeping them private or pm'ing them to admins, but you're being self-defeating in your goal.
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Post by Former Member on Apr 6, 2016 15:09:57 GMT -8
@joecool111 , as posted, the more places your forum links appear, the better. And I've noticed that you keep them private here on support, yet you have so many threads, that if they were public you'd certainly be getting more visibility than you do now.
I'm sure you have a reason for keeping them private or pm'ing them to admins, but you're being self-defeating in your goal. believe me i'm not, there's other places to post links other than here, and i know how much good it would do, but i'v got them other places. i was hoping someone (unamed scott) would give some advice on wether buying the seo stuff would be damaging rather than like every post and not help ;P
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Post by Kami on Apr 6, 2016 15:18:12 GMT -8
@joecool111 , as posted, the more places your forum links appear, the better. And I've noticed that you keep them private here on support, yet you have so many threads, that if they were public you'd certainly be getting more visibility than you do now.
I'm sure you have a reason for keeping them private or pm'ing them to admins, but you're being self-defeating in your goal. believe me i'm not, there's other places to post links other than here, and i know how much good it would do, but i'v got them other places. i was hoping someone (unamed scott) would give some advice on wether buying the seo stuff would be damaging rather than like every post and not help ;P Buying SEO has its pros and cons. The biggest thing you need to consider however is whether or not the amount you are able to invest will yield the results you are looking for. Depending on which search engine you are looking to have results on, you have to look individually at what their actual process for determining ranking is. I know Google recently (within the last six months or so) said they were changing how SEO worked on their end to prevent people for paying to get results on search terms that were not applicable to them, as well as changing how keywords are indexed so as to avoid people bumping up their ranking by using unrelated keywords to their site. Whether or not spending money on getting your site optimized will harm you and your site's rankings is entirely dependent on the engine, your budget, and how you intend to use it, and there is no one sure-fire answer.
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Post by Former Member on Apr 6, 2016 15:21:30 GMT -8
believe me i'm not, there's other places to post links other than here, and i know how much good it would do, but i'v got them other places. i was hoping someone (unamed scott) would give some advice on wether buying the seo stuff would be damaging rather than like every post and not help ;P Buying SEO has its pros and cons. The biggest thing you need to consider however is whether or not the amount you are able to invest will yield the results you are looking for. Depending on which search engine you are looking to have results on, you have to look individually at what their actual process for determining ranking is. I know Google recently (within the last six months or so) said they were changing how SEO worked on their end to prevent people for paying to get results on search terms that were not applicable to them, as well as changing how keywords are indexed so as to avoid people bumping up their ranking by using unrelated keywords to their site. Whether or not spending money on getting your site optimized will harm you and your site's rankings is entirely dependent on the engine, your budget, and how you intend to use it, and there is no one sure-fire answer. $5 from this dude on fivver .com thinks he's called larry or something. 'Larry the great' his slogan is. what you think ?
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Post by Kami on Apr 6, 2016 15:23:32 GMT -8
Buying SEO has its pros and cons. The biggest thing you need to consider however is whether or not the amount you are able to invest will yield the results you are looking for. Depending on which search engine you are looking to have results on, you have to look individually at what their actual process for determining ranking is. I know Google recently (within the last six months or so) said they were changing how SEO worked on their end to prevent people for paying to get results on search terms that were not applicable to them, as well as changing how keywords are indexed so as to avoid people bumping up their ranking by using unrelated keywords to their site. Whether or not spending money on getting your site optimized will harm you and your site's rankings is entirely dependent on the engine, your budget, and how you intend to use it, and there is no one sure-fire answer. $5 from this dude on fivver .com thinks he's called larry or something. 'Larry the great' his slogan is. what you think ? I cannot speak as to every individual that purportedly offers successful SEO. I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and if you are not prepared to spend more than 5 dollars, at best you will be getting some questionable results. Think of it this way. If this guy is so good at getting SEO why is he charging less than US Federal hourly minimum wage for what ought to be a very extensive amount of work in terms of both effort and time?
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Post by Former Member on Apr 6, 2016 15:33:10 GMT -8
$5 from this dude on fivver .com thinks he's called larry or something. 'Larry the great' his slogan is. what you think ? I cannot speak as to every individual that purportedly offers successful SEO. I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and if you are not prepared to spend more than 5 dollars, at best you will be getting some questionable results. Think of it this way. If this guy is so good at getting SEO why is he charging less than US Federal hourly minimum wage for what ought to be a very extensive amount of work in terms of both effort and time? his name is larry the great ? surely that means something, and these guys have sites that get millions of hits a minute, all they do is put your link on theirs and wait for 2 months for the results. 500 x $5 adds up to more than a fed wage. thats what he said anyways. so im going to have to pick the good from the bad and maybe choose someone else idk.
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Post by Kami on Apr 6, 2016 15:36:03 GMT -8
I cannot speak as to every individual that purportedly offers successful SEO. I can tell you that you get what you pay for, and if you are not prepared to spend more than 5 dollars, at best you will be getting some questionable results. Think of it this way. If this guy is so good at getting SEO why is he charging less than US Federal hourly minimum wage for what ought to be a very extensive amount of work in terms of both effort and time? his name is larry the great ? surely that means something, and these guys have sites that get millions of hits a minute, all they do is put your link on theirs and wait for 2 months for the results. 500 x $5 adds up to more than a fed wage. thats what he said anyways. so im going to have to pick the good from the bad and maybe choose someone else idk. Like I said: you get what you pay for. No one can advise you further, because it is ultimately your choice. You've been given as much information as anyone can really give so it is up for you to decide.
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Post by Scott on Apr 6, 2016 15:43:21 GMT -8
@joecool111 , as posted, the more places your forum links appear, the better. And I've noticed that you keep them private here on support, yet you have so many threads, that if they were public you'd certainly be getting more visibility than you do now.
I'm sure you have a reason for keeping them private or pm'ing them to admins, but you're being self-defeating in your goal. believe me i'm not, there's other places to post links other than here, and i know how much good it would do, but i'v got them other places. i was hoping someone (unamed scott) would give some advice on wether buying the seo stuff would be damaging rather than like every post and not help ;P What do you want me to say? Just because the name isn't in "red" does not mean that what Kami is telling you isn't accurate. I "liked" the post to show support in the responses given you. (The "like" stamp of approval!) You've been given a valuable lesson in SEO and Kami has been patient in trying to help and explain it all. Tell him I'll give'm £7 for a bag of magic beans!
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Post by nariadreaming on Apr 6, 2016 16:25:25 GMT -8
I can only reiterate "time and patience" so many times, man. It doesn't matter if a bot has looked at it once, twice, or a couple of times. You are competing with websites that get thousands of impressions per day, so again: either shell out the cash, or take a deep breath and realise that you're going to have to be patient.
iv just found a thread in the list but a really old one. patience i suppose idk. i get over 1000 impressions a day. My site receives over 350,000 impressions a day and we still don't rank on the top page for many of our keywords.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Apr 6, 2016 17:03:03 GMT -8
$5 from this dude on fivver .com thinks he's called larry or something.
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Post by Kami on Apr 6, 2016 17:05:49 GMT -8
$5 from this dude on fivver .com thinks he's called larry or something.
for whatever it's worth, a rating of fivver won't really be an accurate reflection of an individual fivver user, as it's more a market place where folks sell services like artwork and the like.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Apr 6, 2016 17:07:43 GMT -8
I've posted other links ~ including Amazon's lawsuit.
How could $5 buy good SEO results?
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Post by Kami on Apr 6, 2016 17:16:12 GMT -8
I've posted other links ~ including Amazon's lawsuit.
How could $5 buy good SEO results? Oh I don't disagree with you, I'm just sayin fivver is also used by legitimate individuals as well, I know several colleagues that use fivver to supplement their freelancing art income. The rating overall just doesn't speak to an individual fivver user, is all. Though I do heartily agree $5 won't buy anything worthwhile in the SEO department.
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Post by ♥ ℒʊ√ ♥ on Apr 6, 2016 17:25:08 GMT -8
Indeed, Kami . For legitimate freelancers, who charge a price befitting the service/product they're offering, it's a good place for supplemental income.
But when you're spending $5, you have to expect to get what you pay for.
As you posted, it takes time, patience and advertising to build up an internet presence. There really is no quick fix.
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